[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 619 Discussion and 620 Predictions

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so badass uchihas.. are evil because they love too much.. ?! LOL that's a crappy explanation for the sharingan... kishi could have made them much cooler.. or dont explain the origin of the sharingan at all.. it was better.. Power of Love? we all know that they awakened the sharingan or the mangekyou when someone they love was killed or something bad happened.. but that's a mix of feellings.. anger love hate etc.. choosing them to be cry babies and become depressed about it make them look lame.

But kishi surprised us all..i give you that..hashi beeing like Obito/Naruto and the (lame) explanation of the sharingan.. it was not what i was expecting.. 5 out of 5 for the surprise..3 out of 5 for the quality of the surprise..
Let's stop with this speculation right now. We know this is what the Second "thinks". He is a hard ass. So he thinks negatively about everything.

Why is the Second so miserable? He lost someone he loved, which is why he created Edo. He has issues.

The First is letting the Second do what he wants because he is kind hearted. But, don't mistake who is the First Hokage and who is the Second. Who is he most powerful of the two. The First doesn't want to cause a scene or call his brother out, he loves him. He doesn't have an ego, similar to the Fourth, calm and collected and he knows he is a badass, who does he have to prove it to by saying it.

The First is a great shinobi because of his love and "will of fire" for the Leaf which makes him stronger. The same as with Naruto, his will makes him stronger and he becomes stronger because of the ties to the village.

This is what the entire series is about.
 

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This is a 5/5 chapter. Not the best 5/5, but it is one of the best because a lot of information was given out.

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We readers have to stop taking for fact what characters say. The Second said that the Uchiha is evil and their eyes turn them evil isn't a fact.

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It is his "opinion" because they have tried to overturn the village, but he thinks they should be punished and not trusted from his interaction with them during all of the wars he fought with them. He knows Madara's heart and he is holding a grudge. He is still mad that the First let them join with them to form the Leaf. He is a hater.

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The First is one of the Greatest Shinobis of all time. Don't let the way the Second is acting towards him mislead you. He is the First Hokage, if the Second was stronger, he would have been the First Hokage. Who faced and defeated Madara, not the Second. Let's not get it twisted.

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This is Naruto Manga, and it is all about love overcoming hate and the First's personality is the best indication of what the village was built upon. His is approachable but will lay the smack down because he has so much to protect, which makes him stronger and have to stay and get stronger to protect it. Just like Naruto and the other Hokages.

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Stop with this God of Shinobis Bull!!!! Old age is the God of Shinobis. At the time the First was the strongest = God of Shinobis, at the time the Third was the strongest (of those living) = God of Shinobis. Get over it, at the time they were the strongest.

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Madara isn't the end all of Shinobis. He can't die, but I will take others in a fair fight against him. He is very powerful, but he could be beaten, especially now that there has been some intel gotten on him. He is just invincible from the Edo.

Just let's wait and see what happens. It is a long way to go.
 

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Soooooooo....love?

Interesting way to explain the Uchiha eyes. Not what I was expecting but interesting.

It's actually kinda nice to see the first more Naruto-like...or not as stoic as I thought he was going to be.

But we are starting to get a lot more information. It will be cool to see how this continues.
 
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This chapter was the 2nd and 3rd hokage talking. I think next chapter will be 1st and the 4th's turn to talk. I really don't see what Sasuke will get from asking those questions. I would like to see a hashirama/minato tag team, that would be interesting. I have a feeling that Sasuke will get mad at the 2nd and try some torture genjutsu and the 2nd will just counter the jutsu and put Sasuke in a genjutsu/bind.
From my view Sasuke is a bit confused and with a dilemma. He has received conflicted information, therefore not sure who's side of the story should he trust more; in effect asking himself why does Itachi wants him to save the village so much, and Madara/Tobi wanting to destroy it? To alleviate this conundrum he's basically going to the beginning, hearing things from an objective voice; one who doesn't have an agenda for Sasuke. Therefore allowing Sasuke to make a choice of his own. In short, Sasuke is soul searching for answers.
 

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it's so good too see good humor back in naruto i miss that the first & second hokage are too funny... but on the serious side i feel bad for sasuke because he has no idea on who and what side should he be on the darkside or the light i can't wait til next week great chapter kishi...
 
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oh man i loved this chapter, its so funny to see all four Hokages together and their personalities clash. I'm having trouble remembering ,does Sasuke know that Minato is Naruto's dad?
I was just asking my sister the same question and we both agreed that Sasuke doesn't know that Minato is Naruto's dad cause Naruto just found, I don't think anyone has told Sasuke that.

I loved that chapter 5/5
Did anyone else notice when Minato was talking on page . Minato said "Originaly is was a sealing Technique of the Uzumaki clan After losing my Jutsu, I've been studying the ruins and documents of the now lost clan. What did Minato mean that is lost is Jutsu or did I just miss something

So about that chapter, I was laughing so much at the beginning. That way the First acts is funny and like everyone says it dose remind you of Naruto. The Second is very straight foreword, but what he did to the Uchihas he thought was the right thing to do at the time, even thought it turned out bad. (OFF TOPIC- if the Uchihas were the police of the village and the Uchihas are all gone then how took over the police force) Laugh when they asked Minato how he was and points to his back and shows he was the fourth best funny part and the First reaction was so surprising. I feel sorry for Minato cause he has to tell them that he died before the Third. Then finding out Tsunade is the fifth, and a little about her past little Tsunade was so cute and she had money at the time. I wonder what is was like when the First and Second were growing up? Was the second always like that to his older brother telling him to be quite. Still don't know what to think about the Uchihas when there eyes change cause they have to much love and they become crazy when they lose someone
The last question Sasuke asked the First is a little confusion "what is the village, and what are the shinobi in the first place" Can't wait to know that answer, I can't even guess what the First will say.
 

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5/5 now Sasuke is getting more information and will definitely arrive in a conclusion sooner or later. That conclusion however is too early to be predicted.
There are a lot to be considered. The information from the 2nd and 3rd Hokages will bear most weight on Sasuke's "change of Heart " or his "grudge".
for the next chapter i look forward into understanding more. and also a bit of jutsu from 1st and 2nd Hokages
 

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Hashirama, the God of Shinobi... is a total derp. I lolled at how Tobirama ordered Hashirama to be quiet. Tobirama seems like a bit of a **** with good intentions (Sort of like Danzo I guess).
 
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