[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

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Pretty good chapter. Just a shame there are so many ungrateful people here...

I do think people are jumping to conclusions though, as this chapter does raise more questions than it does answer. Chapter 600 will most likely give us the answer to these questions. Maybe Tobi isn't actually Obito, but just his body? You never know...
 

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Some stuff just doesnt add up...i mean c'mon obito was stronger than Minato???? Strong enough to summon kyuubi whom Minato had to die to seal into Naruto...

Moreover, Tobi did not seem to have met yondaime before their encounter otherwise he would have known of the latter's FTG during their fight...

I dunno...anyone else got a clue as to wth is going on???
Exactly.. Tobi fought with Minato as if he didn't know that Minato can fly to his marked kunai. I don't think Obito would be ignorant of how his master would fight. Kishi has to conveniently insert another first Tobi fellow into the timelines where Obito wouldn't fit. But that becomes a stupid connection of dots..
 

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is great that is obito i already knew cus a few things he says in the movie but kishi could have done better with this chapter almost no dialog in the whole chapter

it gets 2/5 from me
 

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Nobody seems to actually be confirming Tobi Being Obito...

It's just Kakashi contemplating as to whether he is or not.
He he... I think it's time you accept it mate...

5/5. I loved it. My bet is that the next chapter is going to be A LOT of explanation.

Oh, and by the way to anyone that absolutely insulted and bashed anyone who believed it was Obito.

Told you so :p

and don't go and say it isn't, because now you're just lying to yourself, he even has the marks on his right side of his face, and LOOKS exactly like he would at that age.
I think he looks awesome... :y

I never hated Obito , but i hate to see tobi real character to be him , i am almost drop this manga out because of this chapter XD , but i have to wait for next week.
And I think you're gonna wait a little more after that too xd
 
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Wow i basiclally just went thru all those pages and couldnt believe that it really was obito.. Kishi has been the most craziest author to ever predict... even when all the clues , leads all point to something or someone it usually isn't them. i just dont know and i am ready for some things to all connect and i am just shocked why he chose obito i feel its strange he was a character who had his impact in the story. Made a character named kakashi find his ninja way and died doing the right thing. It was obito that made Kakashi live by the words those who leave his friends are worse then scum or watever. To be honest kishi introduced 3 other characters who had the best possibility of it being. i say this because they had a image in the manga and but werent complete kind of and those 3 are from most unexplained to a bit more explained

Kagami brought to lite but no story to him wat so ever
Izuna (Madara's brother) had a small story and did have a impact on a character which is Madara also explained as dead
Shisui was another big lead but had all the intentions of peace but explained dead also his title had the name fast in it so he also couldve had some connections to tobi.

all these 3 ide say had a better chance of it being tobi because they would fit the age of the right with 4th hokage
i am also pretty sure 4th hokage wouldve oknown it was obito in some way i meanhe did train him ,, maybe a fighting posture a speech phares
obito did not control the mizukage and seeked out kisame lol... but this i guess has to be explained maybe he was on stilts
Danzou knew of him it seems but he also wouldve known it was a former leef or some sort
Theres no way it fits in that the God Pain wouldve taken orders from this clown and created akatsuki or made his rinnengan happen or gave him uchiha eyes to a senju body of some sort
i dont feel like itachi wouldve been that small next to him in the picture of the manga when he sought him out.

i dunno my friends . Even the people who will say i told you so truly are idiots because i feel they didnt even know. heck ive said it back a few years ago but my mind changes countless times i guess we will see how it adds up.

Now if obito was the one on the attack of konoha and when he was recovered had a bigger body fine.. but lets say that it was Uchiha Madara then that means 4th hokage did actually hurt and mess him up and also yes he couldve been older but still felt like with the kyuubi he was unstopable.. anyway this means maybe he passe dcause of 4th hokage or possible whne he went back for health treatment maybe obito killed him or it was obito since he had the same eye and just a black clown of zetsu ???? idunno so many thoughts
 

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I hate you guys .. the things was so clear and easy to predict. that Tobi is Obito.. but you guys.. camed with a complicating pack of fuc**** theory.. And even now you don`t admit that Tobi is really Obito.. come on man!!!! full of selfish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I will admit there were times when I thought Tobi might be Obito but over time the overwhelming evidence against that theory I could never fully subscribe to it.

Tobi = Obito is like the chubaca defense.......it just does not make sense x.x
 

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Many are saying that tobi is madara's brought up boy. If he is then why he didn't understand the resurrection technique or whatever kabuto used.. madara even knows the seals to break free from it... :confused:
anyway gud chapter though....
 
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I must admit that this chapter got me a bit confused. First it seems that Minato was already hokage when he was still leading Kakashi’s team during the war (you can see Obito’s face and Minato’s at the background) and secondly, how come Tobi was that powerful at such a young age when he attacked the village and Minato 16 years ago? and what about all the talk that the Rinengan was his in the first place? I promise you that this list is far from complete, Kishi got some explanations to do I think (body possession or time travel will be my first guesses).
 

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Exactly.. Tobi fought with Minato as if he didn't know that Minato can fly to his marked kunai. I don't think Obito would be ignorant of how his master would fight. Kishi has to conveniently insert another first Tobi fellow into the timelines where Obito wouldn't fit. But that becomes a stupid connection of dots..
it does make sense obito never saw the full power of ftg and as you can see from the fight he had an idea of how strong he was but didnt know how smart he was also obito was always cocky about him being an elite uchiha so with his ms tech mastered he thought he could take him on. and thats my take on it what you think?
 

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i did not like this chapter to much. i dont see why Obito is tobi. that means he fought the 4th when he was just a teenager. to me it makes no sense. it has to be someone else pulling the strings still bc, nagato should be older than obito bc jman taught him after the fallout of the 2nd great ninja war. obito an kakashi fought in the 3rd ninja war with minato. how would obito know the things he knows an put such a complex plan in motion at such a young age. he know things that even jman an other kages had no knowledge of.


i still love the manga but this could have been done a whole lot better.
 
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guys let me just repost what I said from a couple weeks or days ago...


"I think the reason Tobi became how and what he is right now has something to do about a character that has been overlooked and neglected by many but holds great importance to Obito and Kakasahi. That's right I'm talking about Rin. As we all know she died but unfortunately the reason and events behind her death are still in the Kishi's locker, it's still unknown, a mystery. I believe Kishi meant it this way because the story of her death holds the explanation why Tobi turned into a madman. First we all know that Obito loves Rin now let me direct you to that eventful day when Obito was stucked under boulders of rocks, He decided to give kakashi his right eye as a gift then he made a request a 'WISH' for Kakashi to take care of Rin. Kakashi took it by the heart and decided that he would be Rin's protector even stating that he(kakashi) would sacrifice his own life just to save Rin if ever it needs to come to that. BUT we all know that Kakashi failed 'cause Rin died for some unknown reason.

Now, another thing that struck me was Tobi's line in the latest chapter(597) wherein he said to Kakashi: "You've seen reality, you should be able to understand...No 'WISH' can become true in this world" He really sounded like a really bitter person to me, like he is carrying something heavy inside.

I think those lines about a WISH implies something deeper. Maybe Obito during his recovering and brain conditioning years with Madara covertly witnessed Rin's death and Kakashi's short coming of protecting her. This convinced him to totally go with Madara's planas the only solution for the shortcomings of the shinobi world. Furthermore Tobi also said in chapter 597 that he 'wants to make a world where HEROES don't have to make pitiful excuses in front of graves' now we all know that this is a pun to the failure of Kakashi 'the Hero of the Sharingan' to fulfill a dying Obito's sole WISH>>>There was a flashback scene showing Kakashi standing before a grave.

As we all know, my thoughts are interpreted from translated materials so I'm really not sure if the wordings were correct from the original Japanese meanings, but hey based on what i read these are my thoughts.

Anyway, thank you for reading. What's your take?"

I would just like to add that I think Zetsu, Orochimaru, Danzo and Madara had samething to do with Tobi/Obito but as of now it isn't that clear yet

*please to all those people who are saying Kishi is trolling or that he just pulls stuff from his behind, just quit it, hahaha coz you're making a fool out of yourself, a writer can make his story the way he wants it to be. Kishi is professional writer he knows what he's doing everything has been planned all along but unfortunately some of us just won't take it...just chill and enjoy the story everything has an explanation...:) xD ;)


and oh yeah before I forget.....



WE TOLD 'YA SO!!!!!!!!!xD :) ;)

If Tobi actually is obito (not just his body) and his reasoning for being the most important villain in the series is the death of Rin. That would equate Tobi to being no less of a whiny emotionally driven douche than Sasuke who is a flying thunder cunt. And puhlease if that is the best kishi can come up with he deserves all the hate.
Btw once great professional writers all have a turning point to shittiness. Vonnegut went to shit after breakfast of champions, Kerouac could never live up to on the road (one of his first novels), and hemmingway got worse with time cause he was an alcoholic.
I do agree with you that oro/danzo/zetsu/madara played a part in this if not the overwhelming majority
Point is: kishi better have a damn good explanation in the coming chapters or he's royally pissed off half of his fan base :flaw:
Ps: seriously did we just never have a back shot of Tobi, because when did an uchiha crest get on his back??
:shrug:
[EDIT]: anyone else notice how the last page said his name is obito, rather than the masked man is obito? I'm reallyyyy hoping it's somebody using his body.
 
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Blahh. Well putting it into perspective, if it is Obito his whole lies and shit talk kind of makes sense.
I just hope the guy didn't go coocoo because Kakashi didn't protect the girl he loved, cause what else is there of interest about him that Kishi has shown? Nothing besides his undying love for Rin.
And while we don't know forsure she is dead, it's kind of obvious since she hasn't appeared the whole series even though she supposedly loved Kakashi.
At this point I'm hoping for a plot twist next chapter, but at the same time I don't care. A story is a story. I'm more interested in seeing Kakashi's face though haha ;)
 

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So we waited all week just to see the masked mans face and finally we see it and it's.. Who? We still don't know... It looks like its going to be obito but you never know the way this story is going... Hopefully next week we'll get less flashback and more answers... What is going to be the maskedless man answer? Are you obito? Yes, no, maybe or Bit$$ please, lol!
 

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And I think you're gonna wait a little more after that too xd
He better doesn't switch to sasuke D: , there is a big chance he meant to say he is Obito to troll us and add some drama action , then reveal his real character later on. (Tobi fight vs Minato doesn't show he was obito / Kisame meeting tobi , we saw in the memory tobi hair was the same as madara , which means at that moment the masked man was madara , but later on Kisame saw tobi face and he knew he is , it can be obito (being madara successor) , so in short it looks like we had two masked men.
 

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just because the face behind the mask is obito's face, doesnt mean it is the real obito (it could be izuna,kagami,elder son,etc that is using obito's body).so those of you that says tobi is OFFICIALLY obito is wrong because tobi's identity still havent been revealed yet.everyone is just gonna have to wait until chapter 600 in which i believe the true identity of tobi will be revealed
 
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Tobi must be somebody else using Obito's body. This is why he wears the mask. The reason for this is when his body changes, his identity remains the same. This would also explain how he was able to extract and control the kyuubi and defeat Minato.

The real mystery is Zetsu.

I think Zetsu's purpose is to carry on Madara's legacy.
 
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