[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 588 Discussions and 589 Predictions
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Re: Shippuden has the worst fight scenes! smh.. Its horrible compared to its beginnin
Have you not been reading the manga?
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Why do you somewhat agree, if you dont mind me asking?
Sasuke Namikaze
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Re: Shippuden has the worst fight scenes! smh.. Its horrible compared to its beginnin
i see ur point but i disagree
i see ur point but i disagree
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Re: Shippuden has the worst fight scenes! smh.. Its horrible compared to its beginnin
i agree with u, its not really fight between ninja anymore ... its the same thing when in part 1 they needed handseals to do certain jutsu and now out of knowhere they can use it .... u rarely see someone do handsigns apart from the odd 1 now and then
i agree with u, its not really fight between ninja anymore ... its the same thing when in part 1 they needed handseals to do certain jutsu and now out of knowhere they can use it .... u rarely see someone do handsigns apart from the odd 1 now and then
Re: A is not immune to Genjutsu
Sorry, but to answer you're question, no their body's were made from human body. All I was saying was that his body (Sasori) is made of clay. I wasn't changing topics, I was responding to people's post.
HashiramaDescendant
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Madara is going to show his godly side next chapter... of course, Kishi is going to start the manga off with the Kabuto and Itachi/Sasuke thing to see the progress of the Edo Tensei cancellation. Or maybe we'll see Naruto again! ^^
Re: Shippuden has the worst fight scenes! smh.. Its horrible compared to its beginnin
Part 1 ALWAYS topped part 2. Shippuden fights fell to shit once Kishi got a fetish for glorifying the Uchiha and turned them into legendary demi-gods that control space, time, and reality itself. Naruto has turned to a quick thinking ninja to a machine that shits out explosions at the speed of light. Rinnegans are being distributed left and right. If Madara was pwning the kages with only EMS, I'd respect him, but he's nothing but rinnehax, and spamming the techs of "the man he HATED most" Kishi is ruining, his series, but this chapter has given me hope though.
It sux that the kage fight will be resolved by Edo-Tensei ending, but that way, its one bullshit rinnehax down, and 1 to go
Part 1 ALWAYS topped part 2. Shippuden fights fell to shit once Kishi got a fetish for glorifying the Uchiha and turned them into legendary demi-gods that control space, time, and reality itself. Naruto has turned to a quick thinking ninja to a machine that shits out explosions at the speed of light. Rinnegans are being distributed left and right. If Madara was pwning the kages with only EMS, I'd respect him, but he's nothing but rinnehax, and spamming the techs of "the man he HATED most" Kishi is ruining, his series, but this chapter has given me hope though.
It sux that the kage fight will be resolved by Edo-Tensei ending, but that way, its one bullshit rinnehax down, and 1 to go
KnowledgeGod
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Madara looks like he transformed into that ultimate form of Susanoo! Or am I going a little overboard with my assumption? logic!
Re: A is not immune to Genjutsu
On-topic:
I guess you should clarify in your OP, where the assumption that A (4th Raikage) was thought to be immune to genjutsu because neither I nor many of the responders shared this belief. It came across as citing manga and/or the databook when I read it (I was actually expecting a manga link/page image to be referenced.), when it appears that you're actually referring to NB members I think. The wording is a little confusing (maybe be a little more explicit), as A has no ability that we've seen that would grant him immunity to genjutsu. Thus, to many people you're stating the obvious, so I guess this thread is not intended for those who didn't form the mistaken belief.
Off-topic:
Also, I don't believe that Sasori is immune to genjutsu regardless of not having a biological organ for his cognitive functions. However, this isn't really the place for that debate (you have a separate thread), so I've put my brief statement in spoilers.
lol, at the people who said Sasori's puppet was made of Deidara's clay... Why...? So that Deidara could blow Sasori up at any point to show him "true" art? They had opposing views of art (lasting an eternity vs. "an explosion"), fought/bickered all the time, it would be idiotic to use his clay. Albeit, hilarious if Deidara blew him up and had to explain it to Nagato... xd
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@Draegod - Yes, the people who actually know Sasori don't feel this way (i.e. that he's underrated). However, I believe that we're referring to them being a smaller fraction of the population compared to the majority who don't rate him highly enough for his abilities, feats, and hype.
As well, Kishi didn't write him into beneficial scenarios for his two fights, quite the opposite. His first fight was against an ideal team of Chiyo, who taught him puppetry and knew many of his secrets. In addition, there was Sakura, who had physical strength, and with her medical ninjutsu, she could actually form antidotes for his poison (Likely impossible for anyone sans Tsunade and possible Shizune - though I doubt the latter, as I think Sakura has surpassed her in medical ability - not sure on medical knowledge and/or combat).
During the 4th Great Ninja War (his second fight) ET Sasori was brought back sans any puppets against Kankurou et al. who had many of them (not the 3rd Kazekage, mass puppets, ...), including the Sasori puppet and other puppets made by Sasori long ago, lol. As well, his opponents had the numbers and diversity of skills.
Kankorou's strength (in my opinion, can't speak for others...) is really qualified by the fact that all his puppets were created by Sasori even though he tinkered and modified them. Thus, he's overrated in my opinion, given the lack of originality and authorship of his techniques. :shrug:
Peace
On-topic:
I guess you should clarify in your OP, where the assumption that A (4th Raikage) was thought to be immune to genjutsu because neither I nor many of the responders shared this belief. It came across as citing manga and/or the databook when I read it (I was actually expecting a manga link/page image to be referenced.), when it appears that you're actually referring to NB members I think. The wording is a little confusing (maybe be a little more explicit), as A has no ability that we've seen that would grant him immunity to genjutsu. Thus, to many people you're stating the obvious, so I guess this thread is not intended for those who didn't form the mistaken belief.
Off-topic:
Also, I don't believe that Sasori is immune to genjutsu regardless of not having a biological organ for his cognitive functions. However, this isn't really the place for that debate (you have a separate thread), so I've put my brief statement in spoilers.
Sasori clearly performs the same computational functions with his puppet, whatever it's made of, and thus, he is quite likely to be susceptible to the same jutsu. The brain is essentially an over-powered mass-parallelized computer, so what if Sasori used a mechanical version to reproduce the same functions. He's obviously demonstrated: sensory processing, proprioception, and executive control amongst many other operations that are only present with an organic/biological brain or device that likely uses the same algorithms. This is Naruto, so I don't want to go into the science of it, as Kishi doesn't use that. As stated, this is another debate with its own thread. Feel free to disagree, as we obviously do. This is not the place to resolve this though unless you want to. Albeit, I don't have much to add here.
lol, at the people who said Sasori's puppet was made of Deidara's clay... Why...? So that Deidara could blow Sasori up at any point to show him "true" art? They had opposing views of art (lasting an eternity vs. "an explosion"), fought/bickered all the time, it would be idiotic to use his clay. Albeit, hilarious if Deidara blew him up and had to explain it to Nagato... xd
Peace
@Siyo - This is ridiculously true. He took down the strongest Kazekage (3rd, as stated by Chiyo) and made him into a living puppet, gaining his abilities of Iron Sand. Gaara may have or will surpass him (power of the Shukaku without the drawbacks + mother's love in his sand - lends itself to debate at least), but clearly it wasn't felt that Gaara's father the 4th Kazekage surpassed the 3rd. He also took down a freaking city with that mass puppet jutsu (I think it was a hundred, but I may be off by a factor of up to x10), whereas Chiyo took down a castle with only 10 puppets. As stated by Sasori, a good measure of a puppet master's strength is the number of puppets one can control effectively at once. No one has surpassed him there to my knowledge.
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@Draegod - Yes, the people who actually know Sasori don't feel this way (i.e. that he's underrated). However, I believe that we're referring to them being a smaller fraction of the population compared to the majority who don't rate him highly enough for his abilities, feats, and hype.
As well, Kishi didn't write him into beneficial scenarios for his two fights, quite the opposite. His first fight was against an ideal team of Chiyo, who taught him puppetry and knew many of his secrets. In addition, there was Sakura, who had physical strength, and with her medical ninjutsu, she could actually form antidotes for his poison (Likely impossible for anyone sans Tsunade and possible Shizune - though I doubt the latter, as I think Sakura has surpassed her in medical ability - not sure on medical knowledge and/or combat).
During the 4th Great Ninja War (his second fight) ET Sasori was brought back sans any puppets against Kankurou et al. who had many of them (not the 3rd Kazekage, mass puppets, ...), including the Sasori puppet and other puppets made by Sasori long ago, lol. As well, his opponents had the numbers and diversity of skills.
Kankorou's strength (in my opinion, can't speak for others...) is really qualified by the fact that all his puppets were created by Sasori even though he tinkered and modified them. Thus, he's overrated in my opinion, given the lack of originality and authorship of his techniques. :shrug:
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LeEvilTongue
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HOLY SHIT!!!! That chapter had me pumped up. Even though it seems to be the end for my man Kabuto, his final Edo, Madara is taking shit to another level. That Susanoo was off the chain
Borderliner
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Awesome chapter...If this is the power of Madara, what about Hashirama? Madara should disappear without lose this battle...
Re: A is not immune to Genjutsu
I probably should have posted the popular theory about A's immunity, in OP, and it would have been easier to deal with.I never believed it, but it was an interesting theory nonetheless.
Edit: I must admit I laughed when it was suggested that Sasori was made out of clay.Deidara and Sasori hated each other's art and competed, daily,as you said, about who had the better art .It would make absolutely no sense for Sasori to use clay, but that won't stop people from making outrageous claims.
Other than the genjutsu aspect of your post, I agree with everything you just posted.On-topic:
I guess you should clarify in your OP, where the assumption that A (4th Raikage) was thought to be immune to genjutsu because neither I nor many of the responders shared this belief. It came across as citing manga and/or the databook when I read it (I was actually expecting a manga link/page image to be referenced.), when it appears that you're actually referring to NB members I think. The wording is a little confusing (maybe be a little more explicit), as A has no ability that we've seen that would grant him immunity to genjutsu. Thus, to many people you're stating the obvious, so I guess this thread is not intended for those who didn't form the mistaken belief.
Off-topic:
Also, I don't believe that Sasori is immune to genjutsu regardless of not having a biological organ for his cognitive functions. However, this isn't really the place for that debate (you have a separate thread), so I've put my brief statement in spoilers.
Sasori clearly performs the same computational functions with his puppet, whatever it's made of, and thus, he is quite likely to be susceptible to the same jutsu. The brain is essentially an over-powered mass-parallelized computer, so what if Sasori used a mechanical version to reproduce the same functions. He's obviously demonstrated: sensory processing, proprioception, and executive control amongst many other operations that are only present with an organic/biological brain or device that likely uses the same algorithms. This is Naruto, so I don't want to go into the science of it, as Kishi doesn't use that. As stated, this is another debate with its own thread. Feel free to disagree, as we obviously do. This is not the place to resolve this though unless you want to. Albeit, I don't have much to add here.
lol, at the people who said Sasori's puppet was made of Deidara's clay... Why...? So that Deidara could blow Sasori up at any point to show him "true" art? They had opposing views of art (lasting an eternity vs. "an explosion"), fought/bickered all the time, it would be idiotic to use his clay. Albeit, hilarious if Deidara blew him up and had to explain it to Nagato... xd
Peace
@Siyo - This is ridiculously true. He took down the strongest Kazekage (3rd, as stated by Chiyo) and made him into a living puppet, gaining his abilities of Iron Sand. Gaara may have or will surpass him (power of the Shukaku without the drawbacks + mother's love in his sand - lends itself to debate at least), but clearly it wasn't felt that Gaara's father the 4th Kazekage surpassed the 3rd. He also took down a freaking city with that mass puppet jutsu (I think it was a hundred, but I may be off by a factor of up to x10), whereas Chiyo took down a castle with only 10 puppets. As stated by Sasori, a good measure of a puppet master's strength is the number of puppets one can control effectively at once. No one has surpassed him there to my knowledge.
Peace
@Draegod - Yes, the people who actually know Sasori don't feel this way (i.e. that he's underrated). However, I believe that we're referring to them being a smaller fraction of the population compared to the majority who don't rate him highly enough for his abilities, feats, and hype.
As well, Kishi didn't write him into beneficial scenarios for his two fights, quite the opposite. His first fight was against an ideal team of Chiyo, who taught him puppetry and knew many of his secrets. In addition, there was Sakura, who had physical strength, and with her medical ninjutsu, she could actually form antidotes for his poison (Likely impossible for anyone sans Tsunade and possible Shizune - though I doubt the latter, as I think Sakura has surpassed her in medical ability - not sure on medical knowledge and/or combat).
During the 4th Great Ninja War (his second fight) ET Sasori was brought back sans any puppets against Kankurou et al. who had many of them (not the 3rd Kazekage, mass puppets, ...), including the Sasori puppet and other puppets made by Sasori long ago, lol. As well, his opponents had the numbers and diversity of skills.
Kankorou's strength (in my opinion, can't speak for others...) is really qualified by the fact that all his puppets were created by Sasori even though he tinkered and modified them. Thus, he's overrated in my opinion, given the lack of originality and authorship of his techniques. :shrug:
Peace
I probably should have posted the popular theory about A's immunity, in OP, and it would have been easier to deal with.I never believed it, but it was an interesting theory nonetheless.
Edit: I must admit I laughed when it was suggested that Sasori was made out of clay.Deidara and Sasori hated each other's art and competed, daily,as you said, about who had the better art .It would make absolutely no sense for Sasori to use clay, but that won't stop people from making outrageous claims.
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The God of Wind
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Are most of the people posting in this thread dense? Or....are you just blinded by the big scary susano'o's everywhere? Cmon guys! Did you forget about the face of the First Hokage sticking out of Madara's chest? Believe it or not, that is the source of his power, he created mokuton clones!! So why the hell does everyone keep going on about Madara alone? It is Hashirama's power that is fueling him. The meteors, Kourin, 25 Susano'o's at once, all of them have come about because the Edo Tensei is being powered by an insane amount of Shodia's cells, hence the rinnegan.
J a y J ay
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Very good chapter. Complete susano'o looks insane!
I was thinking.. Has Madara split susano'o into like 10? Cause I don't see any Madaras in any of those susano'os. I only remember him making a clone for each of the pages. And when his susano'o has legs, how can he be inside it? Is he levitating in it's stomach or something?
Sorry if I'm wrong or missed something in the manga.
I was thinking.. Has Madara split susano'o into like 10? Cause I don't see any Madaras in any of those susano'os. I only remember him making a clone for each of the pages. And when his susano'o has legs, how can he be inside it? Is he levitating in it's stomach or something?
Sorry if I'm wrong or missed something in the manga.
SasukeOftheUchiha
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It's gonna suck when Itachi dies (again) its gonna toll sasuke in even more pain but Masashi did this perposly so the Naruto vs Sasuke battle can get on
:sasuke::naruto::itachi::kagutsuchi:
:sasuke::naruto::itachi::kagutsuchi:
narutochan
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i like the manga and now we'll see how itachi will end edo tensei and save the 5 kages and on the pther hand naruto will handle tobi and will convince sasuke to make peace and forget his revenge.
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