[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 559 Discussion and 560 Predictions

[KnowledgeGod]

But it's NOT possible to be obito. I already linked the manga pages in this thread 1 or 2 pages back.

The pages I linked showed kakashi, guy, Kurenai, and all the othe ninja who were the SAME age as obito were just kids still when Tobi attacks konaha....yet tobi is a full grown adult.

Besides THAT, obito died just a few years before that.

In order for obito to be tobi, he would have to have gone from a uchiha who JUST activated his sharingan, to a top tier shinobi capable of controlling the fox and fighting a KAGE.....after taking out minatos personal black ops bodyguards....

Get real...


And what would be his motive? Hmmmm? From what we saw of obito, he loved konaha and his team members so much he willingly gave his eye to kakashi....


The ONLY valid link between obito and Tobi is that kakashis MS ( which is obitos) is SIMILAR to Tobi's..... But we already saw that Tobi has hundreds of sharingan stashed away. He easily could have taken what was left of obitos eye after he died, but obitos BODY was crushed, and would have been a child yet tobi was an adult.

Just stop with the tobito theories. They are all FAIL.

I Agree! If anything Tobi/Madara recovered his sharingan but I doubt that as well. Why would he retrieve Obito eye? Obito barley activated his sharingan for 5 minutes before he died. Ain't like Obito was known for his amazing eye technique around Konoha, he was a scrub....

 

[BarBoBot]

Obito would has been a KID when tobi attacked konaha ( I already linked the chapter that shows it)

I also linked the page that showed Tobi was at least as tall if not TALLER than Minato, and looks EXACTLY like he does now, meaning he was fully grown at that point, not madara in a CHILDS body...

It's not possible.

 

[serpiente clan]

kakashi wasnt young anymore

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and how you explain this..fourth hokage minato back away front the jinchuuriki..

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[serpiente clan]

1. As a other guy showed you Kakashi was grown when Tobi attacked.

2. Sasuke was a nice guy too before his clan and family was murdered. Uchia blood has the potential of seeking revenge. And everything could have happened to Obito between Obito's death and Tobi's apperance. I'm sure Kishimoto wouldn't make it so easy that we could just guess and come up with the reason ourselves.

3. If you compare Obito's face when he lie under the rock and the face Tobi has shown u can see that there are big similarities. It still is a reasonable argument. They also has the same hair.

4. I have absolutely no idea. I'm sure someone else can answer it.

The name Obito also hints at Tobi!
I am sure Obito has some relation whatsoever.

how you explain this..

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[Amelius]

Obito would has been a KID when tobi attacked konaha ( I already linked the chapter that shows it)

I also linked the page that showed Tobi was at least as tall if not TALLER than Minato, and looks EXACTLY like he does now, meaning he was fully grown at that point, not madara in a CHILDS body...

It's not possible.

all you have is pure speculation, I never said it was Obito, merely his body as vessel which is a opinion and no one has any FACTS to support anything. 1st we have only seen tobi's face( which is the only indiction of aging we can base anything off of atm) once, when he attacked konan and you only see parts of it, 2nd when he attacked konan, yes he was as tall as minato, doesnt mean he couldnt be in a Teenagers body, you never see his face so you cant be sure, for all we know, Kakashi could have been as tall as minato during the konaha attack, Kakashi and Obito were about the same age when Obito died. Height is a terrible agruement, and he cant look exactly the same as then and now because YOU never see his face back then. the only thing you can say was the same would maybe be his hair, which is similiar to Obito's. which what do you know, hair can be cut so it could have stayed the same over the years.

 

[mykkymac]

But it's NOT possible to be obito. I already linked the manga pages in this thread 1 or 2 pages back.

The pages I linked showed kakashi, guy, Kurenai, and all the othe ninja who were the SAME age as obito were just kids still when Tobi attacks konaha....yet tobi is a full grown adult.

Besides THAT, obito died just a few years before that.

In order for obito to be tobi, he would have to have gone from a uchiha who JUST activated his sharingan, to a top tier shinobi capable of controlling the fox and fighting a KAGE.....after taking out minatos personal black ops bodyguards....

Get real...


And what would be his motive? Hmmmm? From what we saw of obito, he loved konaha and his team members so much he willingly gave his eye to kakashi....


The ONLY valid link between obito and Tobi is that kakashis MS ( which is obitos) is SIMILAR to Tobi's..... But we already saw that Tobi has hundreds of sharingan stashed away. He easily could have taken what was left of obitos eye after he died, but obitos BODY was crushed, and would have been a child yet tobi was an adult.

Just stop with the tobito theories. They are all FAIL.

LOL.. Do u really think Kishimoto would make it so easy that we could just guess the whole story?
Saying that it is NOT Obito as if you are right is also pretty stupid. Only because you think it's not doesn't mean that your thoughts are superior to others.

"They are all FAIL" If you really think so, I don't think you have any right to comment the Obito theory as you already has made your mind up.

The name Obito hints at Tobi as you can just move the letters and form Tobi. U can also write it like this: (T)obi(to). This is also very typical to do so that the fans get a few hints at who the person is. Just like Roxas in kingdom hearts can be translated to Sora who the person really is.

Obito and what we have seen of Tobi is very similar. The haircut is also the same.

Tobi's one sharingan and Kakashis sharingan has been shown in several chapters togheter. (Kakashis sharingan in one square and Tobi's in the other) I dont know how to explain it right.. But if you understand, that can hint at something.

And last, Obito:
"Those that break the rules and regulations are scum. But those who abandon their comrades are worse than scum! If I'm going to be called scum either way, I'd rather break the rules! And if that's not being a proper shinobi, then I'll destroy that idea!"
This could be hinting at something.

But that does not mean that I don't agree that Tobi fighting fourth Hokage as adult right after Obito died, and how could he get all the hate and the power?
A little twist could be that that Tobi was Madara, until Obito killed Madara and went under the identity as Tobi.
But that theory seems very unlikely aswell.

The Naruto universe is probably long from empty of new things. I'm sure Obito being Tobi easily could be explained by Kishi if that is so.

To everyone: Just because you don't think someones theory makes sense doesn't mean you have to bash that person. It only shows how immature you are so please don't. Let's keep it friendly

 

[ImmaculateShadow]

That's not under armor one half of his body is Black Zestu from head to toe... The other side is White Zestu clone of Madara.

I really like your theory but ... it's wrong ...

Look at Chapter 500 p.17

 

[PositiveEmotions]

It can NOT be Madara's mind inside tobi's body.....

IWR (edo tensei) ONLY SUMMONS A PERSONS SOUL NOT THEIR BODY!

The edo tensei Madara IS Madara's soul in a HUMAN SACRIFICE BODY...

Madara's body is decomposed and gone.

THIS is how edo tensei works...

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bunch of noobs here huh lol

who do u think they killed to put madaras soul into the sacrifice body?

 

[BarBoBot]

Riiiiiiight obito is tobi now because they have similar names? That's your proof?

Noobs like you used to say Tobi is TOBIrama for that same reason, but we all know how that turned out....

Obito was not abandoned....he died from being crushed and he willingly gave his eye to kakashi fully knowing he was dying....

How about the other loophole in your ridiculous theory?

Why would Tobi want a CRUSHED uchiha body from a scrub uchiha, when he is powerful enough to capture a full grown pimped out NOT crushed uchiha body from the dozens that lived in konaha hmmm?

 

[BarBoBot]

It doesn't matter who was used as the sacrifice for Madaras resurrection. The ritual is only performed 1 time then you can summon him any time.

For example: orochimaru used 2 of the sound ninja scrubs as vessels for the first and second hokage. 1 was the kid who could shoot chakra blasts from his hands that shino fought, and the other was one of the sound ninja girls.

 

[KnowledgeGod]

I really like your theory but ... it's wrong ...

Look at Chapter 500 p.17

Read This! it's better explained. I rushed my explaination the first go round.

Manga 475 pg 10

I will like to point out something about Tobi/Madara. When he was fighting against Torune... He grabbed him with both hands but only the right Zestu hand and arm was only infected. Why not the left hand and arm? This is why I keep stating that Tobi/Madara is a White Zestu clone of Madara and his Left 1/2 of his body underneath the White Zestu clone is the other 1/2 of Black Zestu.

Manga 510 pg 10
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When Konan fought against him she destroyed his mask and the outter White Zestu skin covering up the Black Zestu 1/2 on the left side of his face. That's why it's shows pitch Black Zestu, that's not because of the shading of the artist. Another thing is that Konan blast affected both upper areas of Tobi/Madara twice. Both sides of the face and arms but only the right arm was affected doing the first blast. The second blast exposed the left side of his Black Zestu 1/2 underneath, that was cover by White Zestu clone. His left arm wasn't destroyed neither but he was killed but he used Izanagi..... I think I'm the closet to the truth than anybody on the site!!!! Quote me on it!

 

[mykkymac]

Riiiiiiight obito is tobi now because they have similar names? That's your proof?

Noobs like you used to say Tobi is TOBIrama for that same reason, but we all know how that turned out....

Obito was not abandoned....he died from being crushed and he willingly gave his eye to kakashi fully knowing he was dying....

How about the other loophole in your ridiculous theory?

Why would Tobi want a CRUSHED uchiha body from a scrub uchiha, when he is powerful enough to capture a full grown pimped out NOT crushed uchiha body from the dozens that lived in konaha hmmm?

Proof? I only came with theories.
If you bothered to read u could see that the name was only a little part of the assumptions.
I know fully well that Obito was not abondoned and that he was a good guy. I have all the books so I have read it quite a lot. Do u really mean someone who is nice can't get evil? What about Sasuke?

This is a manga series not a reality, so anything can happen.

The last you said I can't answer. It is a loop hole indeed but not something Kishi couldn't have explained.

It would be nice if you also commented the other theories and not only the one u find loopholes in!

And please quit the though tone. Bashing someone because you can't understand or don't believe in their theories, only make u seem immature.

I still like the Deidara "hmmm?" you are writing after a question.

 

[Amelius]

LOL.. Do u really think Kishimoto would make it so easy that we could just guess the whole story?
Saying that it is NOT Obito as if you are right is also pretty stupid. Only because you think it's not doesn't mean that your thoughts are superior to others.

"They are all FAIL" If you really think so, I don't think you have any right to comment the Obito theory as you already has made your mind up.

The name Obito hints at Tobi as you can just move the letters and form Tobi. U can also write it like this: (T)obi(to). This is also very typical to do so that the fans get a few hints at who the person is. Just like Roxas in kingdom hearts can be translated to Sora who the person really is.

Obito and what we have seen of Tobi is very similar. The haircut is also the same.

Tobi's one sharingan and Kakashis sharingan has been shown in several chapters togheter. (Kakashis sharingan in one square and Tobi's in the other) I dont know how to explain it right.. But if you understand, that can hint at something.

And last, Obito:
"Those that break the rules and regulations are scum. But those who abandon their comrades are worse than scum! If I'm going to be called scum either way, I'd rather break the rules! And if that's not being a proper shinobi, then I'll destroy that idea!"
This could be hinting at something.

But that does not mean that I don't agree that Tobi fighting fourth Hokage as adult right after Obito died, and how could he get all the hate and the power?
A little twist could be that that Tobi was Madara, until Obito killed Madara and went under the identity as Tobi.
But that theory seems very unlikely aswell.

The Naruto universe is probably long from empty of new things. I'm sure Obito being Tobi easily could be explained by Kishi if that is so.

To everyone: Just because you don't think someones theory makes sense doesn't mean you have to bash that person. It only shows how immature you are so please don't. Let's keep it friendly

I agree, Its one thing to have friendly debates on whose right and wrong, its another to bash ppl telling them they are completely wrong. Im sorry I did not know your were the writer for naruto and knew all the answer

 

[PositiveEmotions]

Riiiiiiight obito is tobi now because they have similar names? That's your proof?

Noobs like you used to say Tobi is TOBIrama for that same reason, but we all know how that turned out....

Obito was not abandoned....he died from being crushed and he willingly gave his eye to kakashi fully knowing he was dying....

How about the other loophole in your ridiculous theory?

Why would Tobi want a CRUSHED uchiha body from a scrub uchiha, when he is powerful enough to capture a full grown pimped out NOT crushed uchiha body from the dozens that lived in konaha hmmm?

dude thats the thing about half of the nb users think OH IT CANT BE OBITO HE DIED UNDER THE ROCKS HE WAS TO KIND HEARTED FOR OBITO TO DO SUCK THINGS and bla bla yes we did see obito get crushed under the rocks but did he really die? i mean come on it didnt actually show him dead usually in naruto universe dies it clearly shows a ninja dead there fore its a possibility that it is obito and theres a possibility that is not obito

 

[mykkymac]

Just to clear something up.
NOOB, is a word for newbeginner so calling someone who has read 559 chapters a noob is a bit ... yeah, stupid.
I btw did not agree with the TOBIrama theory. In series, games and books, adding or taking away a letter and mixing the words is often done. That is why the name could have a important role, as that is what is exactly done with the name Tobi and Obito.

 

[Amelius]

dude thats the thing about half of the nb users think OH IT CANT BE OBITO HE DIED UNDER THE ROCKS HE WAS TO KIND HEARTED FOR OBITO TO DO SUCK THINGS and bla bla yes we did see obito get crushed under the rocks but did he really die? i mean come on it didnt actually show him dead usually in naruto universe dies it clearly shows a ninja dead there fore its a possibility that it is obito and theres a possibility that is not obito

vaild point, I like how someone keeps saying that this or that or even that is proof that its Obito, but if you read nobody has yet to say ITS OBITO in this discussion, merely its possible. lol nice points in this post tho

 

[PositiveEmotions]

vaild point, I like how someone keeps saying that this or that or even that is proof that its Obito, but if you read nobody has yet to say ITS OBITO in this discussion, merely its possible. lol nice points in this post tho

yea thank you and they say they read the manga obviously they do not remember much there for i am not being a noob and staying to oh it is it is obito i am only saying its a possibility that it is him not that it is him for sure u know wut i mean?

 

[mykkymac]

yea thank you and they say they read the manga obviously they do not remember much there for i am not being a noob and staying to oh it is it is obito i am only saying its a possibility that it is him not that it is him for sure u know wut i mean?

That is exactly what I mean too

 

[serpiente clan]

vaild point, I like how someone keeps saying that this or that or even that is proof that its Obito, but if you read nobody has yet to say ITS OBITO in this discussion, merely its possible. lol nice points in this post tho

the american show osama bin laden nooooooooo an every american believed him so obito is dead....

 

[serpiente clan]

tobi is osama bin laden that why he uses a mask he use izanagi wen the navy seal tried to kill him and escape