[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 536 Discussion and 537 Predictions

[a thousand years of death]

then how do u explain his sharingan and his knowledge of the juubi and itachi amaterasu activation on seeing him and all he know about the uchiha ??????????????????

you dont have to be madara to know all that, kakuzu isnt madara and he knows alot.
he can just be an uchiha who has studied his line more than others.
i mean he does have the sharingan so he can read almost every attack and probably being from the leaf village would put those jutsu to its respective clan.

yea idk if he is madara i just watched the latest episode and when madara was fighting torune and foo he got infected with poison bugs and he riped of hi arm and there was white stuff just like zetsu. maybe madara is zetsu idk how to explain it madara said its in his power to find people anywhere like when he found sasuke and zetsu said hes the land and he could find anybody. maybe zetsu copied madara just like he did with kisame and thats how i think he got away from sasuke amerterasu when they met after itachi fight

i agree with you he should try to combine them both he would be way more powerful

im not convinced he is zetsu but i feel he needs him for extra limbs and such. for that reason. also he kinda got rid of his arm in the fight with minato aswell and lost it during his battle with konan.
the reason i dont think he IS zetsu is cause of this

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it just wouldnt seem to add up. i think they are just spares that zetsu lets him use.

also try to avoid double posts. people dont like it.

Cool theory man. I too think that Tobi is actually some unknown nin who researched and studied history and is now using that knowledge to become powerful.

i also agree with the pervy nin, but im still also leaning on the shisui band wagon too.

Why was it that the theory about Tobi being Obito was shot down ??

Tobi = obiT (o) Know that that question has been asked. But I can't remember what the reason for not being true was ??


say something.... anybody ??

lots of reasons, the main one for me is if it was obito it wouldnt have been able to fight toe to toe with minato that early, if you have a look at kakashi at the time. he must have been in ambu at the time yet he wasnt allowed to take part in the fight.
also he wouldnt have been able to come up with a plan to destroy the leaf village, learn an "unsealing" jutsu to rip the nine tails from kushina.
he wouldnt have claimed to have have waited a long time for it to happen.

if you have a look at the times of the event. Kakashi and obito were around 13 when obito "died" during the third shinobi war, shortly after the third war was over tobi attacked. the picture of kakashi showed he was still uite young, about 14-16 probably. and kakashi at the start of the series was what in his late 20s early 30s (naru wikia say 26-27) well naruto was 13 at that time.
so we look 13 years back obito must have been between 13-14 acording to the wiki or 13-16 imo. 0-3 years wouldnt be enough time to get from a loser (he said he was during the kakashi gaiden arc...give or take)
to someone of the fourths level with such a large knowlage of kinjutsu and ability to control the nine tails no matter how you cut it.


all this catching up is time consuming. will post this and continue
sorry for the long post

 

[nineXtailedXspongebob]

Why do people keep assuming that if Tsunade dies Naruto will become Hokage? There is a lot more to being in charge than just being powerful. As the war has shown Naruto doesnt listen to others real well and that is why it will take him years to become Hokage

dont cruch narutos dream:flaw:

 

[nineXtailedXspongebob]

i gave it a 4 loved how bee explained to iruka how much naruto means to him lol tht sounded gay and how bee and naruto are finnally teaming up for this war

on that sasuke pic is that sasuke eternal maguyku sharingan and if it is where did you find it

 

[a thousand years of death]

They died exactly how you said but they had that power still. None of us can be 100% correct until they are used in battle but I strongly believe they will be able to summon some of the tailed beast power atleast

well if well look at kinkaku and ginkaku they could go into a tailed beast state when they only ATE some of the nine tails.
well these guys and gals had them SEALED inside of them.
also gaara seemed to have kept his sand control ability so it wouldnt seem too out of place.

besides a jinchuuriki isnt just the power of a bijuu as studmuffin said.

Why do people keep assuming that if Tsunade dies Naruto will become Hokage? There is a lot more to being in charge than just being powerful. As the war has shown Naruto doesnt listen to others real well and that is why it will take him years to become Hokage

people in charge of large groups like countries are not those who just take orders well, nor do they have to be smart.
people in charge have to be leaders. leaders are those who can inspire their people and hold their faith. good leaders are also not smart leaders, they are leaders that are strong and protect those who are following them with every ounce of their being IMO.

that is why the best leaders of countries have advisors in every aspect of what they control. they will listen to them but make their own decision from it.
naruto listened to what iruka said, he just made up his mind that he will carry the burden of the war himself because as he knows, as nagato knew he will have to do it to bring peace. becuase hiding while the JSA gets hammered is an order that we all should know cannot be followed.

in the book "the art of war" sun tsu states

There are roads which must not be followed, armies which must be not attacked, towns which must be besieged, positions which must not be contested, commands of the sovereign which must not be obeyed.

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

The Gedo Mazo thing has the chakras of the 7 tailed beast right I don't see how any single person can stop it. I don't think that Naruto alone can do it. But I want to see a fight between Kabuto and Naruto, Kabuto has been hiding for way too long.

 

[Scream of Earth]

i believe madara is after the two crazy bros. maybe he just wants to seal their kyubi chakra inside that lame statue!

....and naruto if they extract the will of the kuubi because the charka is sealed in him givin him RM. then thats only 1/4 because the 4 th sealed 1/2 in their fight thats why he shrunk in size via his footprint.

Hey Everyone, I'm new here, and I only got to page 7 before I felt that I needed to respond too :-D Sorry if I get off topic, my minds racing with all concepts of the Naruto-verse right now...


I think the above are good thoughts. we know Madara's abilities, we know both brothers have been sealed, we know that Naruto does only have half the fox's chakra... the JSA will be EUBAR'd!! now Madara can very easily gain posession of 5 of the Six Paths items: Fan, Rope, Sword, Gourd, Pot (who has the 6th item?)

so I think they planned the wording like that on purpose, many of you are thinking Madara's looking for a sub, but what if when he said "sub" he meant to power up Gedo? or to action Moon's Eye ie:with the Bothers (of suggested Uzamaki descent), Naruto, and Bee? remember he was unhappy Nagato "overused" his power and turned his red Uzamaki hair white? (at Nagato grave)

Also I wanted to comment on the post about Naruto using Sage mode and Fox Chakra, from what I gather from Eight talkin' to Naruto (Ch519 pg10), he can't let the Fox use up all his Chakra. But the story hasn't touched on the Naruto building a relationship with the Fox. He needs to have a word with him, and explain the consquences on what would happen if he tried to take advantage of Naruto in Sage mode - turning to stone - caused my him disrupting Naruto's Sage Balance. It's time for the Fox to accept his vessel, knowing his only way out to 'exercise' his power, is to work together.



wow alot to digest eh?!

 

[dexter64]

Although I wish that the Jinchuurikis would show us in the war their Bijuu abilities, I think that they can't use it BECAUSE:

-The jutsu Pain was using to seal the Bijuu's chakra away killed the Jinchuuriki after the Chakra was extracted.

-When Itachi died, he still had his 2 eyes. AFTER he died, his eyes have been removed, same goes for Nagato.

Example: Hanzo was killed by Pain, one year later they extract his venom from the stomach-when he gets resurrected, it reappears.

At this moment we don't know for sure the exact details of how Edo Tensei works.

If Edo Tensei resurrected the people at the time of their death then how would we explain this

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picture. The 1st look younger than how he should look at the time of his death.

But if Edo Tensei not resurrected the people at the time of their death then why Chiyo look exactly like she were at death, and also the amber pot that's not in the possession of Kin-Gin bros.

 

[Ogracio]

If madara is lookign for a substitute for Geddo Mazzo, i have a feeling that the "substitute" might be Chouji's dad, maybe cause it was the character that appeared after the statue, or the fact he is big, or i dont know, somehow i think he is. What do you guys think?

 

[D3A]

i think itll be funny no matter who it is

 

[dmclea10]

Got and idea brewing in my head! It's very raw and I was considering it in class, instead of paying attention to the lesson =P.

What if "Madara" isn't really behind that orange swirly mask? What if it is really some nin named, Tobi...This is all hypothetically and is my second theory to the "mystery of Madara" (ask for the first, if you'd like to know).

This man by the name of, Tobi is a scavenger of sorts, one of the most brilliant nin to ever live, a scientist who experiments with his own body, and a man wanting to become the next So6P. You could say, he is cut from the same cloth as Oro. He is very old and during his lifetime he has acquired the rinnegan (perhaps he found, then stole them from So6P's coffin), countless uchiha sharingan, including Madara's, as he died, and even the first's DNA...

With all of these items gathered and complete information of the Rinnegan and So6P's stone tablet, he knew he needed to plant the rinnegan in an uzumaki for the their full potential to be realized. However, he needed to torture this vessel, aka Nagato, to lead him down a dark path and commit all of the acts we've seen unfold.

After Nagato's body was sacrificed, not Mr. Tobi's, by summoning the Gedo Maze. Tobi then knew he could capture all the tailed beast on his way to becoming the next So6P.

He knew he needed sharingan eye's and senju chakra/blood/dna to achieve two of the six paths in order to become the next So6P. Once he gathered these two items he used them to create Zetsu by means of izanagi. He sacrificed one of his sharingans to do so, but had madara's sharingan as a replacement because he stripped him of it while madara was dying after his fight with hashirama. Zetsu allowed tobi to repair any injuries and Tobi now had the powers of madara's eyes.

However, I don't know why he's claiming to be madara? perhaps it is out of respect, since he using his eyes, or it gives him creditability, instead of some nin named tobi?

Also, if this all the case, then the sixth coffin would be madara!

Thoughts anyone? I know it's a little flawed, but I couldn't help but share =).

Enjoy, dudes and dudettes!

Sorry man, I think that is pretty darn farfetched to do all this, I think the better manga uses subtle and well timed twists. This one you put out was interesting but I just can't picture him going to so much trouble to conceal this. Also, I find it hard for Itachi to not see through this as well as the Yondaime not to see this also....they are two of the best shinobi ever and I don't think they would be fooled as to the way Tobi/Madara is doing his stuff.

I think its just simply that Zetsu his pet is still under habit calling him Tobi, and Kishi is giving us all opportunities to speculate into the story .

P.S. I cant imagine Naruto losing his tailed beast, cos I believe the way that his father gave him that chakra for a reason when he first met madara on the night he died.

 

[Floydical]

Got and idea brewing in my head! It's very raw and I was considering it in class, instead of paying attention to the lesson =P.

What if "Madara" isn't really behind that orange swirly mask? What if it is really some nin named, Tobi...This is all hypothetically and is my second theory to the "mystery of Madara" (ask for the first, if you'd like to know).

This man by the name of, Tobi is a scavenger of sorts, one of the most brilliant nin to ever live, a scientist who experiments with his own body, and a man wanting to become the next So6P. You could say, he is cut from the same cloth as Oro. He is very old and during his lifetime he has acquired the rinnegan (perhaps he found, then stole them from So6P's coffin), countless uchiha sharingan, including Madara's, as he died, and even the first's DNA...

With all of these items gathered and complete information of the Rinnegan and So6P's stone tablet, he knew he needed to plant the rinnegan in an uzumaki for the their full potential to be realized. However, he needed to torture this vessel, aka Nagato, to lead him down a dark path and commit all of the acts we've seen unfold.

After Nagato's body was sacrificed, not Mr. Tobi's, by summoning the Gedo Maze. Tobi then knew he could capture all the tailed beast on his way to becoming the next So6P.

He knew he needed sharingan eye's and senju chakra/blood/dna to achieve two of the six paths in order to become the next So6P. Once he gathered these two items he used them to create Zetsu by means of izanagi. He sacrificed one of his sharingans to do so, but had madara's sharingan as a replacement because he stripped him of it while madara was dying after his fight with hashirama. Zetsu allowed tobi to repair any injuries and Tobi now had the powers of madara's eyes.

However, I don't know why he's claiming to be madara? perhaps it is out of respect, since he using his eyes, or it gives him creditability, instead of some nin named tobi?

Also, if this all the case, then the sixth coffin would be madara!

Thoughts anyone? I know it's a little flawed, but I couldn't help but share =).

Enjoy, dudes and dudettes!

A good theory, but Madara is Madara, no doubt. The more time that passes, the more unlikely it becomes that he is some random Uchiha. Too much time has been spent explaining Madara's history, his influence on the world and his countless misdeeds for it to not really be him. We know that Itachi knew of Madara's existence and his strength. There is absolutely no doubt that Tobi is Madara in some form or another. To me, the most likely scenario is that it is indeed Madara in his original body, but he has altered his body to be comprised primarily of Zestu DNA, giving him great healing abilities and extended life. The indications are just too great to point anywhere else.

Many questions are still unanswered like why his appearance changes with time, his use of space-time jutsu without currently having a MS, his survival after loosing to the 1st, and his seemingly split personality. The biggest thing to keep in mind the order of all this stuff, like how he couldn't have used Izangi to survive his battle with the first because he hadn't yet gained Senju DNA. I would like to know what happened to Kagami Uchiha however; of all Danzo's old allies, he's the only one that we never saw again after his flashback:

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I suppose if it is another Uchiha, he'd be the best candidate, but I really highly doubt it.

 

[kaloi01]

Yamato will awake next!
:hug:

Yamato will have the power to controll zetsu as well

 

[Dupa]

A good theory, but Madara is Madara, no doubt. The more time that passes, the more unlikely it becomes that he is some random Uchiha. Too much time has been spent explaining Madara's history, his influence on the world and his countless misdeeds for it to not really be him. We know that Itachi knew of Madara's existence and his strength. There is absolutely no doubt that Tobi is Madara in some form or another. To me, the most likely scenario is that it is indeed Madara in his original body, but he has altered his body to be comprised primarily of Zestu DNA, giving him great healing abilities and extended life. The indications are just too great to point anywhere else.

Many questions are still unanswered like why his appearance changes with time, his use of space-time jutsu without currently having a MS, his survival after loosing to the 1st, and his seemingly split personality. The biggest thing to keep in mind the order of all this stuff, like how he couldn't have used Izangi to survive his battle with the first because he hadn't yet gained Senju DNA. I would like to know what happened to Kagami Uchiha however; of all Danzo's old allies, he's the only one that we never saw again after his flashback:

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I suppose if it is another Uchiha, he'd be the best candidate, but I really highly doubt it.

There are many clues that make us believe weather Tobi is Tobi or Madara. Kishi keeps on adding new materials that disapprove our theories or add to them. He is doing a great job at keeping us guessing and when he decides to reveal the mystery man we will all go O.O:whoa::crazy:WTH:worshippy:

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

Its been ages since we saw Sasuke. It is about time at least we get to see a glimpse of his EMS.

 

[Floydical]

True but u hav to think about it.. Madara has all of thier tailed beasts. So they hav no access to the tailed beast chakra. And u cant randomly create that chakra out of nowhere

Actually, in the case of IWR, it can be created out of nowhere. Some people have been touching on it, but in the case of Kin and Gin, they had the 9 tails chakra like they did before they died. IWR brings you back as you were just before you died, not how you were just after dieing. Notice how all the resurrected shinobi are uninjured when they come into battle? I believe that they were all summoned as they were before their last battle, the battle that they died in. This would mean they are all essentially at their peak, having all the abilities and special powers that they had at that time. It seems very likely that the previous jins will have their tailed beast powers.

 

[nineXtailedXspongebob]

naruto has life giving force of the kubbi chakara and
correct me if i a m wrong the other chakara gives body and shape to the nine tails and that the part that naruto dosnet have

 

[Shoton]

Well I think Tsunade will die to protect Naruto, so after this war Naruto will become the Hokage, but I am afraid cause Naruto will end as a Manga after the Fourth Shinobi War!

She will not sacrifise her for Naruto Her reason for the manga is to see Naruto becoming the Hokage, thats her dream if she dies, the manga gets a bit killed off tbh.

 

[The Edge]

Great Chapter

Nice NarutoBeeSageTBBCombo.
Also good to see that Naruto cares for his environment and doesn´t throw Paper away . Hope he won´t get pain in his stomach later.

Poor barrier Commander, 36 layers gone in an instant.
He will cut off his mustache for this.

I think Madaras substitute will be Dan, cause he haven´t shown his real powers yet.
Madara/Tobi will steal the control about him from Kabuto.

Question : Why are there these knots on Madaras weapon-fan ?

 

[Mystikk]

I really would like to see sasuke next chapter. I hope he has time/space nin. like madara now!

Naruto and bee are going to fight other dead kages with garaa and Tsuchikage. My prediction for the match-ups will be...
gaara vs 4th kazekage
Tsuchikage vs 2nd Tsuchikage
Naruto vs 2nd mizukage
Bee vs 3rd raikage

Madara looks so badd ass... I hope he kills some good guys I want to see some despair in this war.

 

[thepizzaexplorer]

I hope they show Naruto and Bee kickin' some butt in the next chapter.