[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 516 Discussion and 517 Predictions

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I also feel like naruto's nine tails mode with its "life force" energy will act like a trump card with edo tensei. Just a theory, but maybe when he goes onto the battlefield with all the resurrected shinobi, the life force energy he gives off will have an effect on the souls of the dead shinobi around him... Any thoughts?
 

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Re: Manga 516!

I would also like to add this about that symbol.

The word swastika is derived from the Sanskrit word svastika (in Devanagari स्वस्तिक), meaning any lucky or auspicious object, and in particular a mark made on persons and things to denote good luck. It is composed of su- meaning "good, well" and asti "to be" svasti thus means "well-being." The suffix -ka either forms a diminutive or intensifies the verbal meaning, and svastika might thus be translated literally as "that which is associated with well-being," corresponding to "lucky charm" or "thing that is auspicious.

In Japan, the swastika is called manji. Since the Middle Ages, it has been used as a coat of arms by various Japanese families.
 

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I also feel like naruto's nine tails mode with its "life force" energy will act like a trump card with edo tensei. Just a theory, but maybe when he goes onto the battlefield with all the resurrected shinobi, the life force energy he gives off will have an effect on the souls of the dead shinobi around him... Any thoughts?
Hum...maybe. but i believe it has more to do with Yasakani no Magatama (search on wikipedia) that itachi might (and its a conjecture) have given to naruto. It is said to have the power to purify. So, i believe that naruto will purify the corpses with his presence and they're soul will be release...but not until they kill and do some (a lot) of damage...
 

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great chapter. 5.
im really gonna jump all over the place, so be prepared.

good speech from gaara.
always nice to hear him give naruto props.

i liked anko and kabuto snake hands same time.

i liked the extra explanation on kabutos plans with the edo tensei.
shows there are many ways he can work the technique.
and hasnt summoned certain people for a very good reason.
maybe he has no access to something he needs.
what keeps making you guys think that he can summon ANYONE that has died?
certainly there are restrictions of some sort...but none of you know what they are, so dont even try to act like you know what it takes. acting as though he should be able to just edo tensei ANYONE ANYTIME ANYWHERE with absolutely nothing other than his desire to bring them there. thats so wrong i cant even begin...

the kages seemed pretty confident. that may change soon.
on that last page, the 1st and 2nd frame are awesome!!
the flying ninja art birds from sai, awesome!
and the huge sphere of what i assume to be some sort of viewing hole.
they will probably be able to monitor the entire conflict with that thing. SWEET!

bee's words to naruto arent about their training.
the training is over. naruto knows how to use it now.
hes flexed himself into his new power, so now he can use it in battle without over doing it like he did vs kisame. he has "steadied his hand" and now his gun will shoot straight. ya dig?

bees words are about the war.
i can tell bee knows what is going on, even if naruto doesnt.
he is telling naruto that the "final part is starting" (the beginning of the end)
"its gonna be sad" (people he loves will die and people edo tensei'd will be forced to do horrible things.)
"youre gonna feel helpless, but dont get mad" although you wont be able to do everything you want to do, dont let it push you overboard.
"cuz its time to start" the war is starting, NOW!

dan was never an average ninja.
thats ridiculous.
he was tsunades man, do you have any idea how strong youd have to be, to fill that position? i mean look for gods sake, shes still alone. a finger can break open the ground. even jiraiya just couldnt muster the nuts to be her man. he was too much of a free spirit. but dan, dan is the man. he wanted to be hokage remember? he wasnt just some tard who drooled out of the side of his mouth and dreamt about being someone sweet. like most of you clowns. LOL. read that son! so you see dan was actually really hardcore, the thing is we just dont know his powers. lol.

i like how madara tells kabuto that he is keeping black zetsu watching over sasuke so that kabuto doesnt steal sasuke in the middle of the war. LOL.
kabuto just kinda laughs, like "nice one" hah!

underground zetsus! omg! lol! thats gonna suck really really badly for the shinobi.
and dont confuse the ability that nagato used on itachi and kisame way back when with the ability that zetsu has. zetsu's ability is to clone ANYONE he has EVER came into contact with. and he clones them all the way down to their chakra.
he himself becomes that person or one of his clones does anyway. the explanation is all after bee kills kisame and zetsu comes to pick up the body and hes carrying the kisame head, ewww. and he says that he switched into the battle DURING THE FIGHT. and that they never noticed. which i actually found a plot hole in a while back. ill try to see if any of you know what i am talking about before i spill it.

who said they would hold back and fight off deidara and sasori and the other 2 on page 8?
was it the byakugan user that stayed back to fight them?

p3f3 who the hell is that??

oh and sasori and deidara talking smack to each other still! LOL!
we're both dead, you idiot! LOL!

and atsuma doesnt have to fight shikamaru.
he could fight ino, chouji, or even kurenai.
any of those could be horrible.

and nejis dad doesnt have to fight neji, maybe he will fight hinata, or even hinatas dad, his brother. there are a great many possibilities here.
i wonder if the special seal on his forehead will come into play?

like i said. totally rad chapter. the momentum is amazing!
 

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great chapter. 5.
im really gonna jump all over the place, so be prepared.

good speech from gaara.
always nice to hear him give naruto props.

i liked anko and kabuto snake hands same time.

i liked the extra explanation on kabutos plans with the edo tensei.
shows there are many ways he can work the technique.
and hasnt summoned certain people for a very good reason.
maybe he has no access to something he needs.
what keeps making you guys think that he can summon ANYONE that has died?
certainly there are restrictions of some sort...but none of you know what they are, so dont even try to act like you know what it takes. acting as though he should be able to just edo tensei ANYONE ANYTIME ANYWHERE with absolutely nothing other than his desire to bring them there. thats so wrong i cant even begin...

the kages seemed pretty confident. that may change soon.
on that last page, the 1st and 2nd frame are awesome!!
the flying ninja art birds from sai, awesome!
and the huge sphere of what i assume to be some sort of viewing hole.
they will probably be able to monitor the entire conflict with that thing. SWEET!

bee's words to naruto arent about their training.
the training is over. naruto knows how to use it now.
hes flexed himself into his new power, so now he can use it in battle without over doing it like he did vs kisame. he has "steadied his hand" and now his gun will shoot straight. ya dig?

bees words are about the war.
i can tell bee knows what is going on, even if naruto doesnt.
he is telling naruto that the "final part is starting" (the beginning of the end)
"its gonna be sad" (people he loves will die and people edo tensei'd will be forced to do horrible things.)
"youre gonna feel helpless, but dont get mad" although you wont be able to do everything you want to do, dont let it push you overboard.
"cuz its time to start" the war is starting, NOW!

dan was never an average ninja.
thats ridiculous.
he was tsunades man, do you have any idea how strong youd have to be, to fill that position? i mean look for gods sake, shes still alone. a finger can break open the ground. even jiraiya just couldnt muster the nuts to be her man. he was too much of a free spirit. but dan, dan is the man. he wanted to be hokage remember? he wasnt just some tard who drooled out of the side of his mouth and dreamt about being someone sweet. like most of you clowns. LOL. read that son! so you see dan was actually really hardcore, the thing is we just dont know his powers. lol.

i like how madara tells kabuto that he is keeping black zetsu watching over sasuke so that kabuto doesnt steal sasuke in the middle of the war. LOL.
kabuto just kinda laughs, like "nice one" hah!

underground zetsus! omg! lol! thats gonna suck really really badly for the shinobi.
and dont confuse the ability that nagato used on itachi and kisame way back when with the ability that zetsu has. zetsu's ability is to clone ANYONE he has EVER came into contact with. and he clones them all the way down to their chakra.
he himself becomes that person or one of his clones does anyway. the explanation is all after bee kills kisame and zetsu comes to pick up the body and hes carrying the kisame head, ewww. and he says that he switched into the battle DURING THE FIGHT. and that they never noticed. which i actually found a plot hole in a while back. ill try to see if any of you know what i am talking about before i spill it.

who said they would hold back and fight off deidara and sasori and the other 2 on page 8?
was it the byakugan user that stayed back to fight them?

p3f3 who the hell is that??

oh and sasori and deidara talking smack to each other still! LOL!
we're both dead, you idiot! LOL!

and atsuma doesnt have to fight shikamaru.
he could fight ino, chouji, or even kurenai.
any of those could be horrible.

and nejis dad doesnt have to fight neji, maybe he will fight hinata, or even hinatas dad, his brother. there are a great many possibilities here.
i wonder if the special seal on his forehead will come into play?

like i said. totally rad chapter. the momentum is amazing!
I am a fan of yours! You always make a lot of sense every post. Anyway, I think Kurenai wont be fighting anybody because the last time I saw her, shes pregnant, remember?

Great chapter, I give 6 out of 5..xd
 

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great chapter. 5.
im really gonna jump all over the place, so be prepared.

good speech from gaara.
always nice to hear him give naruto props.

i liked anko and kabuto snake hands same time.

i liked the extra explanation on kabutos plans with the edo tensei.
shows there are many ways he can work the technique.
and hasnt summoned certain people for a very good reason.
maybe he has no access to something he needs.
what keeps making you guys think that he can summon ANYONE that has died?
certainly there are restrictions of some sort...but none of you know what they are, so dont even try to act like you know what it takes. acting as though he should be able to just edo tensei ANYONE ANYTIME ANYWHERE with absolutely nothing other than his desire to bring them there. thats so wrong i cant even begin...

the kages seemed pretty confident. that may change soon.
on that last page, the 1st and 2nd frame are awesome!!
the flying ninja art birds from sai, awesome!
and the huge sphere of what i assume to be some sort of viewing hole.
they will probably be able to monitor the entire conflict with that thing. SWEET!

bee's words to naruto arent about their training.
the training is over. naruto knows how to use it now.
hes flexed himself into his new power, so now he can use it in battle without over doing it like he did vs kisame. he has "steadied his hand" and now his gun will shoot straight. ya dig?

bees words are about the war.
i can tell bee knows what is going on, even if naruto doesnt.
he is telling naruto that the "final part is starting" (the beginning of the end)
"its gonna be sad" (people he loves will die and people edo tensei'd will be forced to do horrible things.)
"youre gonna feel helpless, but dont get mad" although you wont be able to do everything you want to do, dont let it push you overboard.
"cuz its time to start" the war is starting, NOW!

dan was never an average ninja.
thats ridiculous.
he was tsunades man, do you have any idea how strong youd have to be, to fill that position? i mean look for gods sake, shes still alone. a finger can break open the ground. even jiraiya just couldnt muster the nuts to be her man. he was too much of a free spirit. but dan, dan is the man. he wanted to be hokage remember? he wasnt just some tard who drooled out of the side of his mouth and dreamt about being someone sweet. like most of you clowns. LOL. read that son! so you see dan was actually really hardcore, the thing is we just dont know his powers. lol.

i like how madara tells kabuto that he is keeping black zetsu watching over sasuke so that kabuto doesnt steal sasuke in the middle of the war. LOL.
kabuto just kinda laughs, like "nice one" hah!

underground zetsus! omg! lol! thats gonna suck really really badly for the shinobi.
and dont confuse the ability that nagato used on itachi and kisame way back when with the ability that zetsu has. zetsu's ability is to clone ANYONE he has EVER came into contact with. and he clones them all the way down to their chakra.
he himself becomes that person or one of his clones does anyway. the explanation is all after bee kills kisame and zetsu comes to pick up the body and hes carrying the kisame head, ewww. and he says that he switched into the battle DURING THE FIGHT. and that they never noticed. which i actually found a plot hole in a while back. ill try to see if any of you know what i am talking about before i spill it.

who said they would hold back and fight off deidara and sasori and the other 2 on page 8?
was it the byakugan user that stayed back to fight them?

p3f3 who the hell is that??

oh and sasori and deidara talking smack to each other still! LOL!
we're both dead, you idiot! LOL!

and atsuma doesnt have to fight shikamaru.
he could fight ino, chouji, or even kurenai.
any of those could be horrible.

and nejis dad doesnt have to fight neji, maybe he will fight hinata, or even hinatas dad, his brother. there are a great many possibilities here.
i wonder if the special seal on his forehead will come into play?

like i said. totally rad chapter. the momentum is amazing!
Bee's words: That's what I thought too. After all, I can't think of what other training Bee could help Naruto with. I'm pretty sure that was the last bit of training, so it makes sense that Bee would be talking about the war. I am looking forward to seeing those two join the fray, though I figure Naruto's going to be very unhappy that they've left him in the dark up until this point.

Dan:
You have a very good point. I hadn't even thought about that. Lol. I suppose I've just been kinda accepting whatever ninja are resurrected and not really giving a thought to whether they're powerful or not, though I assume Kabuto is too intelligent and crafty to waste time and energy resurrecting a ninja that is less than powerful in his or her own right.

Plot hole: Plot hole? What plot hole? :eek: Do tell. I'd very much like to hear this.

Byakugan user: Yeah, he was the one who said he was going to hold Sasori and Deidara off.

Page 3, Frame 3: I think that's Motoi's dad, but I'm not absolutely certain.

Asuma: Speaking of Kurenai, I wonder if she's had her baby yet, or if we're going to see her again anytime soon. I mean, she looked pretty far along when we last saw her way back when Jiraiya died. How long could it have been since then? I'd think she's about due, and I think Kishimoto would have been certain to show her if she were fit to fight and amongst the shinobi.

Hizashi: I think it would be more heart-wrenching for him to fight Neji. Certainly, it could definitely be Hiashi he fights, but for Neji to fight his father who he gave himself up for death when Neji was so young?... I wince to think about it. And now that you mention it, I don't see why the mark shouldn't still work, since it's still there. That would certainly give a Main Branch member such as Hiashi an advantage and the ability to take Hizashi down, though I can't imagine it would be an easy thing to do. Though, of course, Kabutomaru did say he was going to make them mindless machines...

why is anko's team wearing the leaf headbands instead of the joint alliance headbands?
Well, last we saw them, they were tailing and keeping an eye on Kabutomaru. I just assumed they hadn't been back to Konoha to report yet, explaining why they still have Leaf headbands. Of course, that's just my opinion.
 

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<div class="bbWrapper">The chapter was a little boring but not always u get a fight. Naruto learned how to do the work bt what would be the final part.<br /> And how do u think the people will react to see thier dead friends</div>
 

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great beginning.

since orobuto has difficulty controlling all corps and they still have their minds in tack (somehow) but their movement is being controlled. lets say, if dead leaf shinobi fight another leaf shinobi, can the dead person give info to his former comrade while fighting him?

"if you ask me. ill scream and tell all shinobi fighter about the assault, who are involve" before killing the shinobi fighters. :)
 

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God Gaara is hopeless; his obsession with Naruto is almost embarrassing. This chapter had the enemy disperse and the commander addressing his troops, nothing extraordinary.

The way some of you reply to a fictional character speech is very worrying!
 
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I also feel like naruto's nine tails mode with its "life force" energy will act like a trump card with edo tensei. Just a theory, but maybe when he goes onto the battlefield with all the resurrected shinobi, the life force energy he gives off will have an effect on the souls of the dead shinobi around him... Any thoughts?
I really feel like his Life Force will effect the Zetsu's since they are made with the Wood Element i they will be effected like Yamato's Wood Element did when it grew trees out of it
 
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Hum interesting chapter.

If dan was ressurected, does that mean he was a powerfull ninja? Ithought he was a "average" ninja.

Also, it looks as if kabuto ressurected powerfull ninjas...but there are a few left out of the jutsu... why? Namely kisame, jiraya, konan, danzou, madaras brother... All of these are people that kabuto knows that are dead...so, why? (and the whole 1st 2nd 3rd and 4th hokage deal again...please don't...sealed in the death reaper seal...)

Witch are the limitations of edo tensei? For the next few chapters that will be a decisive question to answer. And he seems to be having dificulty controlling all of them at once, so...will he be able to control a genius like itachi? or even nagato? they're own abilities grant them a great possibility of releasing themselves from the jutsu...or at least from its control...

I really am interested in knowing the reasons behind the choices that kabuto made by ressurecting those ninja and not others... I still don't get it... Or is it that after ressurecting the former akatsuki, the former kages and the former jinchuriki he hadn't the power to ressurect the most powerfull ninja available? because asume isn't that powerfull...

i give it a 2. gaara's speach...awsome!

Kisame died around the time kabuto joined madara so kabuto wouldn't have his soul for edo tensei..as for jiraiya, its a possibility kabuto has his, but maybe hes saving him for back up..but theres a possibility that he doesn't...edo tensei's requirements of gathering the dead souls needs major clarification. I really Like how you think, great minds think alike. Knowing kabuto is controlling some strong shinobi's like Itachi and Nagato I really think they can find a way to break out of the jutsu..esp Nagato because of his rinnegan abilities. Gud post btw


I also feel like naruto's nine tails mode with its "life force" energy will act like a trump card with edo tensei. Just a theory, but maybe when he goes onto the battlefield with all the resurrected shinobi, the life force energy he gives off will have an effect on the souls of the dead shinobi around him... Any thoughts?

I thought about that also, its a possibility he can effect the jutsu just like how he effected yamato's wood abilities..because the zetsu's are made up of hashirama's DNA I think naruto's kyuubi mode will have a big effect on zetsu/zetsu clones

why is anko's team wearing the leaf headbands instead of the joint alliance headbands?
Ankos team was dispatched before the joint shinobi finished the headband protectors.

What is Bee final training? To many ppl are readying into what was actually said instead of what is ment. here is what bee said "Now it time for the final part. Your going to be sad, your going to feel helpless, but dont get mad because its time to start. . What bee ment was " its time to start the war, your going to be sad because people might die/get hurt, your going to feel helpless because you can't protect/help everyone, but dont get mad because the war is about to start

Next fight Anko vs Kabuto

Anko will die in the up comming chapters..also, because kabuto is controlling all the summons its a possibility a few of them will gain control of themselves. Because kabuto will be fighting anko at the same time, theres no way he can fight and still direct his edo tensei summons.
 
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Tobi is not Madara, just a body being used by him. The former Misukage says " I see the only ones left (from the Akatsuki) are Zetsu and my replacement Tobi"
so Tobi's just a body being used for 100 percent sure
The mark on Hizashi's forehead is the Caged Bird Curse Mark that all Hyuuga Branch members have.
 
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