[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 515 Discussion/ 516 Predictions

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Come on!

Nagato, Itachi, Jinchuurikis (no idea what they are gonna do with beasts sealed... -.-, unless the have been resealed), Boss Ape Mr. Raikage Sama, Kimimaro, HANZO, Lord Hyuuga... pff I so can't wait for the battles

*greedy look*
 

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i think kabuto will run out of chakra and and up losing,despite his great dead summons....sorry most of leafs ninjs are going to loose thier lives....i think sasuke will join later and will face naruto at the end......gaara is going to kill deidaira this time......kakaru will face sasori again kakashi will face zabuza again, kimimaro will face lee....tobi will lose one eye again for izanagi.....naruto will go into both toad mode n kuyibi mode to change sasukis mind before the two attacking tobi who summons great wonderful creature using the rinnigan.......using the same rinnigan to revive dead allies of akatsuki during the war...........finally using gedo mazo against sasuki and naruto....which will rage and finnally sasuki and naruto will sacrifice thier lives to save the ninja world by using their last final justus...............
 

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This is bullcrap, kishi just loves giving the bad side upgrades
Are you idiot? how many times get naruto upgarde he almost a god no one can defeat him only sasuke can fight with him and what about gay sensei he defeated kisame easyli everytime konoha gets the best upgrade and now finaly kishi added some little upgrade the another side to fight with 8 tails and konoha ninjas and fu*cking naruto god..... this is the fair play every side get upgrade!!!! think before talk man!!!!!
 
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This chapter is awesome and it deserves 10/5 but one thing just comes to my mind ...

Im 100% sure that madara is the final opponent . Did you see that naruto's former enemys , naruto's former friends and everyone who was strong and well known is going to be in this war ? Well not really everyone but you get my point . This war seems like "the war" ... the final war and naruto is racing towards the end ... i give naruto 1 year ... maybe 2 but not more than that ...
Kishimoto said the final battle would be the Naruto vs. Sasuke battle, didn't he? So, technically, doesn't that make Sasuke the last opponent?
 

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I don't think he can summon people who's souls have been taken or sealed away. What I mean is the people that we see, their souls haven't been taken or sealed in any way by That Itachi Blade thing he had with Susanoo or the Demon Reaper Seal thing. So if he doesn't summon them later during the war then they are unable to be summoned because their souls are sealed. But I don't think they know Kisame is dead yet, I don't know why they didn't just check right off the bat to see if he was alive or not.
My question is Oro was trying to summon the 4th while fighting Sarutobi, but Sarutobi prevented that from happening. So does that mean even souls which are locked in the Dead God can be summoned.
 

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YEEHAWWWWWWWWWW!

5/5 hands down.
Greatest chapter so far.

I am not being nostradamus. I predicted this next chapter to be a spectacle of the alliance. I fell short and it could not get any better than this - the madara - kabuto forces' spectacle as well.

WAR WAR WAR... cant wait to witness it next. Seems we will be having chapter after chapter of the the alliances' division against the supposedly-who kabuto-summons-leaders will pit their wares against the allied shinobis all star cast.

SUGGESTED POINTS TO PONDER OR POINTS OF DISCUSSIONS AND PREDICTIONS:

1. WHICH GROUP IS STRONGER?
2. WILL NARUTO AND BEE GET TO TAKE PART AND WIN THE WAR?
3. WILL SASUKE SHOW US HIS NEW EYES?

Brace for the hard wood guys!

Personally, I predict that a chapter or two will be featuring Naruto's current training. Then, we get to read sasuke's new tools - powerful eyes. Yamato will be a "war-tide" shifting factor as a hostage.
kabuto will continue to amaze us but he will run to the mountains again, go into hiding after an inevitable defeat.
madara will try to retreat and ponder to pursue "bee" again as a continuation of his "own moon eye's plan".

This chapter is really a treat after the holidays. Can't ask for more...at least for now.

Then, the war chapters will be as immense and as explosive as the fireworks we will witness this coming season.

Spectacular indeed....
 

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BEST FREAKING CHAPTER.... EVER!!!!!!!!!

I don't even know where to begin!!!!

AKATSUKI.... JINCHURIKIS.... KAGES... AND ALL THE DEAD LEGENDS!!!!! (cept 1st and 2nd hokages... being sealed and all)...

Wow... just wow... Naruto is going to be SOOOO freaking pissed when he finds out this is all going on behind his back....

And poor Yamato! :/



Now I know why they had to take a weeks off... so much detail in this manga.... must have taken awhile to draw!!! (even tho' they remain ahead by a few chapters)

FIVE OUT OF FIVE!!!!!!!
I totally agree............. AWESOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOME CHAPTER.......... SO MUCH TO COME, JUST CAN'T WAIT........................

The only way to stop thesummons... KILL KABUTO FIRST.............
 
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okay? so you admit there was a third coffin that sarutobi stopped from coming up and opening? in the manga and in the anime. which mirror each other almost perfectly in most respects, especially that early in the show. and if you claim it wasnt the 4th hokage, then who the hell was it?
its pretty obvious that it was meant to be minato. who else wouldve been summoned and wouldve scared sarutobi so much that he had to try and prevent it?

heres the first hokage, the second hokage, and tsunades little brother!!
oh noes!! NOT!

and who the hell said that someone sealed inside the demon god cant be summoned by edo tensei? YOU decided that on your own. no where is there proof of that. just because they arent summoned doesnt mean its for that reason... it could be something totally unrelated. like maybe they can only be summoned once. how can you be so sure that they CANT be summoned? what proof do you think you have?
im willing to be reasonable and agree if you can only give me some sort of proof. the lack of evidence is not the same as evidence.

Yes the lack of evidence isn't the same as evidence...So, what's the evidence that he can summon people that were sealed away inside the death god? It goes both ways on this. Also, here we discuss the manga, not the anime. So, my question is, were in the manga did it say that you can summon someone from inside the death god? Or were did it happen? Were is the proof? Were did someone summon a soul that was sealed away inside the death god? It's not shown. Not in the manga. And as for the anime following the manga, that's not completly correct and others have raised that question as well. Some things that are shown on the anime don't correspond to the manga. Kakashi's use of the fire element in the anime and not in the manga is an example of that.

No one knows who was inside the 3rd coffin. In the manga it does not appear. And sarutobi stopped it not because he knew who as inside but because he knew that he had to stop at least one coffin from appearing.

I didn't want to offend you or anything. It was just a comment. Sorry if I did. Really.



Someone here asked why kushina wasn't summoned. Remember that minato sealed her (soul) inside the four elements seal that kept the fox in naruto, so that she could appear to naruto and talk to him. So, maybe, that prevents her soul from being summoned. As for jiraya, who knows? Maybe kishi wants to summon him later on to fight naruto and unbalance him. Or maybe, he can't be summoned. Why doesn't he summon kisame is also a big question mark...

SUGGESTED POINTS TO PONDER OR POINTS OF DISCUSSIONS AND PREDICTIONS:

1. WHICH GROUP IS STRONGER?
2. WILL NARUTO AND BEE GET TO TAKE PART AND WIN THE WAR?
3. WILL SASUKE SHOW US HIS NEW EYES?
1. I would say that the "Shinobi" are stronger. They have All the kages (and ALL of them are super strong), they have strong ninja on their own (Kakashi, Gai, darui, etc etc), they have a complete generation of strong ninja (Neiji and hinata, sakura, sai, lee, ten-ten, temari, chouji, shikamaru, etc etc) and they have the 8 tails and the 9 tails. And, perhaps even Sasuke... Even with all those summons, Akatsuki still have a problem: EdoTensei is a technique...so, their whole power comes from one element: kabuto. Imagine that someone casts a powerfull genjutsu on him and makes him release the tech? they lose not only him but all the rest... And Madara, even if he is powerfull, can he really win against all the actual kages and the 8 and 9 tails? is that even possible? hum.... Oh, and don't forget, edotensei shinobi aren't as powerfull as they were in life...or at least it seems that way...

2. Off course, however, I believe that only when the battles are ahead... And bee will problably be captured and the 8 tails retrieved by madara.

3. Yes. The question is, what will he see with them? And, will he be on madara's side or on narutos side? Was this all a ruse to get EMS? to make madara believe he could trust him?
 
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Kishi is a legend! Man i love that guy! Most epic chapter everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So much is gonna happen!!!!! Go kakashi!!!
 

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Kabuto still has something up his sleeve and isn't working FOR Madara...
all those summons might be nothing more than a disguise...and are we really to believe he wont use that same poison on the Zetsus?
 

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We see the former Jinchuuriki's hosts, one of them is actually Naruto's mom, wonder how he'll react when he sees her again.
awesome chapter, just can't wait ' till it's Thursday again

grtz
 

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Yes the lack of evidence isn't the same as evidence...So, what's the evidence that he can summon people that were sealed away inside the death god? It goes both ways on this. Also, here we discuss the manga, not the anime. So, my question is, were in the manga did it say that you can summon someone from inside the death god? Or were did it happen? Were is the proof? Were did someone summon a soul that was sealed away inside the death god? It's not shown. Not in the manga. And as for the anime following the manga, that's not completly correct and others have raised that question as well. Some things that are shown on the anime don't correspond to the manga. Kakashi's use of the fire element in the anime and not in the manga is an example of that.

No one knows who was inside the 3rd coffin. In the manga it does not appear. And sarutobi stopped it not because he knew who as inside but because he knew that he had to stop at least one coffin from appearing.

I didn't want to offend you or anything. It was just a comment. Sorry if I did. Really.

Someone here asked why kushina wasn't summoned. Remember that minato sealed her (soul) inside the four elements seal that kept the fox in naruto, so that she could appear to naruto and talk to him. So, maybe, that prevents her soul from being summoned. As for jiraya, who knows? Maybe kishi wants to summon him later on to fight naruto and unbalance him. Or maybe, he can't be summoned. Why doesn't he summon kisame is also a big question mark...
Sealing the soul is possibly the only weakness of Edo Tensei that we know. I agree with what you said; a soul sealed inside the Death God cannot be summoned. A soul sealed using the Totsuka Sword (Orochimaru) can't be summoned. If it could, then we would've seen all the Hokages and Orochimaru in this chapter. So, Omningan; he didn't decide anything. He's just looking at facts and giving his opinion. It's clear that a sealed soul has not been revived yet.

Anime and Manga differ greatly. In the Anime, the 3rd coffin has "4" written on it where as in the Manga, it says "3". For all we know, the 3rd coffin could've been anyone or it could've simply failed because of the sealed soul restriction. Right now, we simply don't know but it's safer to assume that a sealed soul cannot be summoned vs. anyone could be summoned.

HOWEVER, Kabuto has stated that he surpassed the former users of Edo Tensei (Anyone else feel like the 2nd Hokage is way stronger than people give him credit for? Space-Time Jutsu, Edo Tensei, detecting the presence/ number enemies by simply touching the ground), so he may actually be able to bring back the sealed souls somehow but we'll never know until we see it.

Why we didn't see Jiraiya, Konan, Kisame is another question...

Kushina's soul wasn't sealed within the Four Element Seal. Minato only sealed the remaining chakra she had left inside Naruto so she could appear before him later on.

I don't see Alliance winning unless Kabuto dies. Zetsu's clone will be cloning any ninja they fight and on top of that, there's Kabuto's summons who are invincible in their own rights.

Kishi also mentioned something huge will happen to Kakashi. If it was the Pain fight and him meeting his father then it wasn't that big... It may be something else during the war, possibly explanation of how he awakened his MS.
 

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Edo Tensei could still require you to be a grave robber though... everyone is saying that Deidara was blown up so there's no dna left but he got an arm ripped off by Gaara that Kabuto could have salvaged. I would just like to see a physical limitation on this OP tech.
And Sasuke... omg what if he wakes up and he's got a rinnegan already? They want him to sync with the gedo mazo right?
 

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Edo Tensei could still require you to be a grave robber though... everyone is saying that Deidara was blown up so there's no dna left but he got an arm ripped off by Gaara that Kabuto could have salvaged. I would just like to see a physical limitation on this OP tech.
And Sasuke... omg what if he wakes up and he's got a rinnegan already? They want him to sync with the gedo mazo right?
Edo Tensei doesn't require you to possess anything from the dead person summoned. They simply require one to have a living sacrifice for the soul to enter.
 

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Sealing the soul is possibly the only weakness of Edo Tensei that we know. I agree with what you said; a soul sealed inside the Death God cannot be summoned. A soul sealed using the Totsuka Sword (Orochimaru) can't be summoned. If it could, then we would've seen all the Hokages and Orochimaru in this chapter. So, Omningan; he didn't decide anything. He's just looking at facts and giving his opinion. It's clear that a sealed soul has not been revived yet.

Anime and Manga differ greatly. In the Anime, the 3rd coffin has "4" written on it where as in the Manga, it says "3". For all we know, the 3rd coffin could've been anyone or it could've simply failed because of the sealed soul restriction. Right now, we simply don't know but it's safer to assume that a sealed soul cannot be summoned vs. anyone could be summoned.

HOWEVER, Kabuto has stated that he surpassed the former users of Edo Tensei (Anyone else feel like the 2nd Hokage is way stronger than people give him credit for? Space-Time Jutsu, Edo Tensei, detecting the presence/ number enemies by simply touching the ground), so he may actually be able to bring back the sealed souls somehow but we'll never know until we see it.

Why we didn't see Jiraiya, Konan, Kisame is another question...

Kushina's soul wasn't sealed within the Four Element Seal. Minato only sealed the remaining chakra she had left inside Naruto so she could appear before him later on.

I don't see Alliance winning unless Kabuto dies. Zetsu's clone will be cloning any ninja they fight and on top of that, there's Kabuto's summons who are invincible in their own rights.

Kishi also mentioned something huge will happen to Kakashi. If it was the Pain fight and him meeting his father then it wasn't that big... It may be something else during the war, possibly explanation of how he awakened his MS.
Tks dude. Kakashi's MS awakened because of obito dying. Remember, he had his eye transplanted before obito died. Then, he saw his closest person die and it eventually awakened. Or when rin died (if she did...). Kakashi will problably be the next hokage. That's the big thing. All the kages are powerfull but as far as we know only tsunade has the probability of knowing the death god reaper seal. She is destined to sacrifice herself to kill someone or something or to save someone or something. Why? Orochimaru died in the pursuit of power...as was his whole purpose in life. Jyraia died by his way of the ninja: never giving up and leaving it up for the next generation. Sannin seem to die according to their filosofies so tsunade will die to protect something or someone. Probably Naruto. She will sacrifice her life to kill Kabuto and save all. That's my vote.

As for kushina, if he only sealed her chakra...well chakra doesn't have personality does it? I don't know the definition...but to seal chakra isn't just to seal energy? And as such, for kushina to talk to naruto and to restrain kiuby and to have a personality...doesn't it mean that somehow her soul entered in the process? That's just a thought...

The absence of jiraya and kisame bothers me...bothers me to death...it only means that he will summon jiraya to face naruto... :S

Zetsus...well, i do believe that yamato is going to get saved, weakening the zetsus. The ideal cenario would be if Naruto and bee went to save yamato while the armies fight the zetsus and kabuto and madara... Sure hope yamato doesn't die... :S

2nd hokage was very powerfull but they all were. It seems that kages are on a different level. And that level has been raising since the begining. I mean, in the battle between sarutobi and the other two...well...it wasn't that espectacular as with tchusikage bringing a giant turtle on one hand flying... or as the whole confrontation on the summit... Or even if you consider the sannin fight... Kages are strong in deed. And we have yet to see the dead ones fighting.

Oh and why did kabuto awaken the former jinruchiki? without the biju....will they do anything? Look at naruto...until recently without the kiuby he was weak...very weak...so...will they be able to do anything without they're biju?
 

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Words can't describe how awesome this chapter was
-Kakashi's a general
-The Tsuchikage carrying that whole Island
-Naruto using the Rikudou mode as an arm, that puts that theory rest. If Naruto ketches you with that its over.
-The new joint shinobi headbands. I can't Waite till Naruto sport that baby.
-All of Akatsuki, the jinchurriki, other dead kage and other powerful shinobi. He better bring back Jiraiya because he was as powerful as Oro without sage mode.

I can't wait till Naruto joins the war, with his new powers he will be like his father the special reinforces, the carvery, the air strike.
i also thought about jiraiya when he brought back the dead, jiraiya is stornger then everyone he summoned so far

Tks dude. Kakashi's MS awakened because of obito dying. Remember, he had his eye transplanted before obito died. Then, he saw his closest person die and it eventually awakened. Or when rin died (if she did...). Kakashi will problably be the next hokage. That's the big thing. All the kages are powerfull but as far as we know only tsunade has the probability of knowing the death god reaper seal. She is destined to sacrifice herself to kill someone or something or to save someone or something. Why? Orochimaru died in the pursuit of power...as was his whole purpose in life. Jyraia died by his way of the ninja: never giving up and leaving it up for the next generation. Sannin seem to die according to their filosofies so tsunade will die to protect something or someone. Probably Naruto. She will sacrifice her life to kill Kabuto and save all. That's my vote.

As for kushina, if he only sealed her chakra...well chakra doesn't have personality does it? I don't know the definition...but to seal chakra isn't just to seal energy? And as such, for kushina to talk to naruto and to restrain kiuby and to have a personality...doesn't it mean that somehow her soul entered in the process? That's just a thought...

The absence of jiraya and kisame bothers me...bothers me to death...it only means that he will summon jiraya to face naruto... :S

Zetsus...well, i do believe that yamato is going to get saved, weakening the zetsus. The ideal cenario would be if Naruto and bee went to save yamato while the armies fight the zetsus and kabuto and madara... Sure hope yamato doesn't die... :S

2nd hokage was very powerfull but they all were. It seems that kages are on a different level. And that level has been raising since the begining. I mean, in the battle between sarutobi and the other two...well...it wasn't that espectacular as with tchusikage bringing a giant turtle on one hand flying... or as the whole confrontation on the summit... Or even if you consider the sannin fight... Kages are strong in deed. And we have yet to see the dead ones fighting.

Oh and why did kabuto awaken the former jinruchiki? without the biju....will they do anything? Look at naruto...until recently without the kiuby he was weak...very weak...so...will they be able to do anything without they're biju?
they still have the same power without there bijuu, look at garra he still has the sand power
 
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