[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 515 Discussion/ 516 Predictions

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unbelivable, unpredectable, sooooooooo freakin amazing, my blood was gonna explode out of my body, thise chapter is a legend...
naruto start to master his rikudo mode, and yamato is out, kakashi in charge, and sasuke gitting back...

but i wonder how is the living dead gonna use there ability when some of them were taken out, like the jinchuriki, nagato and itatchi...

cant wait till the next one..

this is a boooooooooooooooooooooooooomb
 

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this chapter was simply amazing. Not only is this going to be epic, it is also going to be a mind-****. All of the main characters and supporting cast will be facing some of the most insanely strong shinobi to ever exist, and in addition they will be facing some of their hardest demons. tsunade and dan, possibley gaara and his siblings against their father, hanzo, and i especially am eager to see the interaction between sasuke and itachi. one thing bugs me however. In the thirds battle against orochimaru, he forcibly shut the coffin the had the kanji 4 on it for the fourth hokage... so what pumps me up is that i believe that there is a very real possibility of naruto facing his father in combat, and that kishimoto purposely left some characters off panel in order to capitalize on the already major shock value.
no, I don't think minato can be summoned. The dead demon sealed minato's soul. I'm sure kabuto is not more powerful than the demon to steal minato's soul from him. Minato is gone forever. So is Hiruzen.
 

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Sooooo excited for the next one ^^. I really wanna see how all the formerly deceased shinobi will play role to combat in the war, Should be a very intense arc ;o
 
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i remember in the last chapter when kabuto told d man that he didn't make him in to a puppet , so to speak. if he did the exact same things with the revived itachi and a few others, kabuto might be in trouble. just my humble opinion. itatchi will finally be able to tell sasuke the truth abotu everything. including tobi. that in itself could turn the tide of the war.
 

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this chapter was simply amazing. Not only is this going to be epic, it is also going to be a mind-****. All of the main characters and supporting cast will be facing some of the most insanely strong shinobi to ever exist, and in addition they will be facing some of their hardest demons. tsunade and dan, possibley gaara and his siblings against their father, hanzo, and i especially am eager to see the interaction between sasuke and itachi. one thing bugs me however. In the thirds battle against orochimaru, he forcibly shut the coffin the had the kanji 4 on it for the fourth hokage... so what pumps me up is that i believe that there is a very real possibility of naruto facing his father in combat, and that kishimoto purposely left some characters off panel in order to capitalize on the already major shock value.
Why do people never listen???? In the manga, Orochimaru NEVER SUMMONED NOR TRIED TO SUMMON THE 4TH HOKAGE. That was in the anime. The reason he didn't do it in the manga was because the 4th is sealed away inside the Shinigame's stomach, he can't be brought to life. The First, Second, Third, and Fourth are all in the Shinigami's stomach, so none were shown.
 

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Great build up chapter. Many questions still remain though... Did kabuto use any of the bijuu chakra to use edo tensei in such a high level? Orochimaru only summoned 2... Many comebacks however... Naruto is still dumb as a donkey --"

After seing this chapter, I get a question pumping on my mind... Will the manga end after the war? I mean...kishi brought characters even from the first chapters to comeback and it seems to be an "all-out" fight with everyone powerfull shinobi in the manga...so...will it end after the war? I think so...maybe 100 chapters or less... :(
 

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Holy mother trucker, an unbelievable chapter to say the least. So it seems that Madara now has access to all of the 6 paths of pain in one being? Pretty righteous. At least now we learned why Yamato couldn't fight back, he was paralyzed. I think its awesome that the shinobi army has a new headband and organized the way they are. Gonna be a crazy fight, assuming each of Kabuto's summonings will be able to operate like Diedera did in his fight. Be interesting to see how grandma chio and the revived leaf villagers will act in battle, perhaps kabuto wont completely restore their personalities. And lastly, we see Yamato melded to the first hokage statue making the zetsus stronger, gonna be a hell of a battle. 5/5 no doubt
 

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Why do people never listen???? In the manga, Orochimaru NEVER SUMMONED NOR TRIED TO SUMMON THE 4TH HOKAGE. That was in the anime. The reason he didn't do it in the manga was because the 4th is sealed away inside the Shinigame's stomach, he can't be brought to life. The First, Second, Third, and Fourth are all in the Shinigami's stomach, so none were shown.
Well he did try to summon a third coffin as he did in the anime and since his first 2 summonings were the first 2 hokages, I always assumed that the third coffin contained the 4th

I agree with u some of the ppl revived where shocking..these ppl will play a huge part in the battle do to the fact that almost everyone had a connection to some one who will be fighting in the war..

The only group that I think wont be as strong are the jinchuuriki's due to the fact they dont have there tailed beast so they shouldn't be able to fight to there highest potential.

As for kisame being revived, they do know kisame is dead however the requirements for edo tensei aren't fully clear...To use edo I personally believe the jutsu user most have some dna of that person, but in the manga it doesn't seem that way..judging by the manga I think the jutsu user can call upon whoever he/she desires.. Again personally I feel like edo tensei needs the requirement of DNA to be used do to the fact that a few strong ppl weren't in kabuto's army...

1. Jiraiya..died in an unknown location in the rain so therefore kabuto couldnt get any DNA from his body..

2. Hidan..died on the Nara clan's property so again kabuto doesn't have dNA to get.

3. 3rd hokage..died but sealed within the Death God

4. Kisame, his body exploded before he died...

These are a few ppl I thought would be in the army of kabuto's... Again I believe Edo tensei requirements aren't clear within the manga...

what do u guys think?
Hmm I agree with you, I always assumed that edo tensi required a sample of a dead shinobi's dna and I think that is still a possibility. Considering how surprised Madara has been by Kabuto, I can assume that any person's dna that Madara has gained access to is also available to Kabuto. Clearly, I think we will see more summonings later, possibly including Jiraiya. However, I think it is clear that both Jiraiya's dna and Kisame's dna could have been gathered from their battles and can be revived. I agree with Kiot when he said:
I will definitely admit that I am disappointed by the lack of Kisame amongst the corpses. However, that may be due to the fact that, as far as I can recall, none of them are aware of Kisame's death yet.
It is a distinct possibility that they are not aware of his death. They fully intended to hear back from Kisame eventually and knew he was very safe in the form he was in, considering zetsu witnessed how people did not notice his presence. Like last time, Madara will eventually have zetsu check up on Kisame, this time finding he actually died.

Finally, I had my own theory behind Hidan. We never did see him revived, even now. I think this is for a combination of reasons. First off, we could assume that Shikamaru was right about no one ever being able to enter the area that Hidan was buried. If that were the case, he could never be sewn back up and would eventually die from not killing people. However, lets assume this rule did not apply. Therefore, kabuto could get access to his dna from the site. However, there is still the possibility he is still alive and therefore cannot be revived (I personally think this is the case). Someone might say in turn, why did Madara or Zetsu not go out to save him? Well I think it is pretty clear that without Kakuzu, they would not be able to reattach his limbs and therefore, he is no use to them anymore.
 
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everyone saying here its awesome but kishimoto make a big mistake!

WHY SHOWED US SHINO FACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Something Wrong!!!!!!
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WTF!!! WTF!!! I didn't even notice, that is SO ****ed UP!!!! WAY wrong, like seeing Kakashis face damn it!!!!!

on another note, what if the "6th" coffin is the original RS, and naruto, mastering hiis new RS mode, combining it with sage mode and unlocking the usumaki eye, will figth him, also GREAT take on the "naruto wood effect" and the zetzus, SO MUCH AWESOME!!!!
 

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but even without transforming, all jinchuriki use their tailed beast's chakra. If you see naruto creating hundreds of clones, you know he wouldn't be able to do that without the kyubi. The bijuu also helps against genjutsu. I can't remember if bee really did that, but it's another advantage of being a jinchuriki.

Take naruto for instance. what could he do without the kyubi's chakra? He'd be exhausted after a few shadow clones and probably couldn't make many rasengans because of that. Some of his chakra was also inherited from kushina, but it's not that much.




unless they somehow manage to kill kabuto first and break that jutsu. I can't wait to see how they'll do it
Well without the kyubi, naruto still has plenty of chakra. At least 4 times more then kakashi without using the kyubi (stated when he was learning about natue manipulation.) and he has great stamina. So i dont think naruto will get tired from making those shadow clones. Plus he has sage mode. And without thier bijuu they do get cut down in power but theyre still gonna be a big nuisance, otherwise i dont think kabuto would hav summoned them in the first place.
 

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DARUI is going to be so dope.. I'm starting not to believe Tobi is Madara also.. It's starting to be too obvious. "I'm Madara, I'm Madara,I'm Madara, I'm Madara." Watch tobi end up being Madaras brother lmao.
 
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Why do people never listen???? In the manga, Orochimaru NEVER SUMMONED NOR TRIED TO SUMMON THE 4TH HOKAGE. That was in the anime. The reason he didn't do it in the manga was because the 4th is sealed away inside the Shinigame's stomach, he can't be brought to life. The First, Second, Third, and Fourth are all in the Shinigami's stomach, so none were shown.
i had to check.
you are wrong. :p

the 4th's coffin is being resurrected and sarutobi stops it, just like in the anime.

no, I don't think minato can be summoned. The dead demon sealed minato's soul. I'm sure kabuto is not more powerful than the demon to steal minato's soul from him. Minato is gone forever. So is Hiruzen.
which means that you are also wrong.
i actually thought the same thing that you think - that being sealed away would prevent the summoning - but it doesnt, apparently.
bummer huh?

im not sure what the limit of souls being called in for edo tensei is.
im not sure if anyone can resist the lure that is cast.
i would hope someone like jiraiya would be protected by such things, but if itachi and chiyo can be brought back, i dont see why anyone can't be summoned.
which might indicate that kabuto would be able to summon someone like the oringinal sage of the six paths.

this is interesting...
the 1st and 2nd hokage are BROTHERS.

also notice that before orochimaru has put the kunai seals in them, they are themselves and recognize sarutobi. they look dead too, like they could decay any moment. but they still talk to him and everything!

still prior to the seal being placed within them, they know that they've been summoned by orochimaru, and are surprised he could do it.

sarutobi hints that edo tensei is a space time technique.
"nothing good will come of playing with time..."

orochimaru says as hes putting the seals into them, "i really must have the both of you return to your TRUE FORMS"

meaning that only with the seal being placed does he give them the full power of edo tensei and their old selves. just having a sacrifice body and summoning the spirit, isnt enough. you must then place the seals within them to fully bring them back strong.

on the next page after the seals are placed within them we see them rejuvenate and seem to fill with energy and regain their original powers.


then one of the anbu explains that the "fuda" placed within them removes their personalities making them killing machines.

he mentions that to bind the soul of the dead back into this world, that a corpse is needed as a sacrifice. that means that kabuto has killed and collected 30+ bodies for these summons. he is a mass murderer, "FOR SURE!"

recently we saw kabuto summon deidara

the same rejuvenating of deidara, but kabuto explains that this "fuda" talisman is different in that it leaves some of deidaras mind and personality within the resurrected body. so the soul retains self-awareness and may only be shut down by the fuda chosen for them.


here sarutobi explains that even if orochimaru were to die, the summons would remain. that is a scary thought. after the talisman is placed, that soul is back in action, and will play out the role it was given with the talisman i would assume.
like putting a code into a computer. it just processes it, and runs it.
what code/fuda/talisman/seal will kabuto use for these poor souls?
will they all be killing machines? or will they be more like deidara was and have some of their personalities remain?


later sarutobi admits that he must do something about the SOULS that are trapped, that being the only way to defeat them.
it seems as if the only thing he knows that will free them, is the dead demon seal. which is a bummer... because he was hailed as knowing every jutsu in konoha. and if thats the only one? BUMMER!
edo tensei is a severe threat, and i worry that many divisions of the joint shinobi forces will not be equipped to deal with this threat.

as much as we do know... it seems that so much of edo tensei is still a mystery. as is kabuto's motives and the true extent of his power and knowledge. he seems to be the real villain now, like was said earlier. not madara.

the table is set, but the first move has yet to have been made.
i predict the joint shinobi will strike first. ambush team, go!

thanks for reading my post.
i enjoy reading all of yours that dont suck horribly. xd
 
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