[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 510 Discussion/ 511 Predictions

[silenceofthelambs]

I'm not even talking about her surviving. I've come to terms with that, but if she dies without accomplishing something lasting (Sending a message detailing madara's abilities, or booby trapping the rinnenegan, something or anything) then her death really seems like a complete loss. She needs at least one last shot against madara, something lasting, not just costing him one of at the least 63 sharingans he had.

I agree with you on sending a detailed message about Madara's abilities to the Ninja Alliance, but placing a final safeguard on the Rinnegan just doesn't seem very likely to me. If Madara is unable to have the Rinnegan in his possession by the next chapter, then it will turn out that this part of the arc will become redundant in the later parts of the story, for Madara will again have to make another attempt to get Nagato's eyes, this time hoping to be successful.

My theory on the next chapter is, Madara gets the Rinnegan, while a critical exchange of information occurs on both sides; Madara gets the scroll Kisame sent with his final summoned shark, while the Ninja Alliance gets a last message from Konan describing Madara's Izanagi technique. Upon both processing the equally important message, total war breaks out between the Ninja Alliance and Akatsuki (whatever is left of it). And on it goes.

By the way, as for the Sharingan eyes in Madara's laboratory, I counted around 104 (I might be off by about two or three, so feel free to correct me if you wish).

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[Warlock Tigerwolf]

I agree with you on sending a detailed message about Madara's abilities to the Ninja Alliance, but placing a final safeguard on the Rinnegan just doesn't seem very likely to me. If Madara is unable to have the Rinnegan in his possession by the next chapter, then it will turn out that this part of the arc will become redundant in the later parts of the story, for Madara will again have to make another attempt to get Nagato's eyes, this time hoping to be successful.

My theory on the next chapter is, Madara gets the Rinnegan, while a critical exchange of information occurs on both sides; Madara gets the scroll Kisame sent with his final summoned shark, while the Ninja Alliance gets a last message from Konan describing Madara's Izanagi technique. Upon both processing the equally important message, total war breaks out between the Ninja Alliance and Akatsuki (whatever is left of it). And on it goes.

By the way, as for the Sharingan eyes in Madara's laboratory, I counted around 104 (I might be off by about two or three, so feel free to correct me if you wish).

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that's a different panel than the one I counted, 13 by 8 is indeed 104. however that one only shows the containers. The one after he implants itachi's eyes into sasuke shows some of the containers being empty.

That was the one where I counted 63, assuming the ones out of view had sharingans

this is the one I used as the basis

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[silenceofthelambs]

that's a different panel than the one I counted, 13 by 8 is indeed 104. however that one only shows the containers. The one after he implants itachi's eyes into sasuke shows some of the containers being empty.

That was the one where I counted 63, assuming the ones out of view had sharingans

this is the one I used as the basis

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Perhaps you're correct. But in any case, whether 63 or 104, Madara has quite a formidable collection of Sharingan. I suspect he might try to utilize it somehow during this upcoming war. But we'll see.

 

[jeiel422]

im gonna be off topic in this one but i think rin has got a big role in the war and as kishi said this is kakashis year maybe kakashi and his friends like rin has got a big part so i think and i hope we will see rin and surprise kakashi and give a big revelation dont be mad at me with this prediction !!

 

[DJ Malik]

I am curious why the covered part of Tobi's face when exposed was black... I still think there is more to Tobi than Madara...

I agree!! Why would it be so important to cover his face for this long if was just plain old Madara's face!! There has to be something more

 

[Floydical]

Alright, we all know that Madara said he 'gave' Nagato the rinnegan. Based on the things that have been said, I came up with a theory:

One person mentioned that they think Madara implanted a sharingan into nagato and that later awakened into his rinnegan. I think this is on the right track but incomplete. Since we know that someone with an implanted sharingan, ie Kakashi, cannot turn the sharingan off and since we never saw young Nagato with a sharingan (well we never really saw his eyes but we can pretty safely assume that), I can assume that he did not have a working sharingan prior to awakening his rinnegan.

However, my theory is that Madara implanted two UN-AWAKENED sharingans into Nagato at a very young age. By that I mean that among his collection of sharingans were eyes from uchiha children who had not yet awakened their sharingans. We know that Obito (sorry for using him) awakened his sharingan under distress and we know Nagato did the same with his rinnegan. Perhaps an Uzumaki with unawakened sharingans will instead develope rinnegans.

Of course, Madara could just be Nagato's father, but my theory would be far more interesting and explain in a little more detail how Madara 'gave' the rinnegan to him.

Opinions?

 

[nozser]

Alright, we all know that Madara said he 'gave' Nagato the rinnegan. Based on the things that have been said, I came up with a theory:

One person mentioned that they think Madara implanted a sharingan into nagato and that later awakened into his rinnegan. I think this is on the right track but incomplete. Since we know that someone with an implanted sharingan, ie Kakashi, cannot turn the sharingan off and since we never saw young Nagato with a sharingan (well we never really saw his eyes but we can pretty safely assume that), I can assume that he did not have a working sharingan prior to awakening his rinnegan.

However, my theory is that Madara implanted two UN-AWAKENED sharingans into Nagato at a very young age. By that I mean that among his collection of sharingans were eyes from uchiha children who had not yet awakened their sharingans. We know that Obito (sorry for using him) awakened his sharingan under distress and we know Nagato did the same with his rinnegan. Perhaps an Uzumaki with unawakened sharingans will instead develope rinnegans.

Of course, Madara could just be Nagato's father, but my theory would be far more interesting and explain in a little more detail how Madara 'gave' the rinnegan to him.

Opinions?

Not a bad idea dude, better than anything i come up with.

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

Hopefully we are going to see Sasuke's EMS but now that Madara has the Rinnegan is he going to use it for himself surely Madara knows that he is making Sasuke too strong and Madara also knows that Sasuke will also try to take him down. So I guess Madara is going to use the Rinnegan himself.

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

Hopefully we are going to see Sasuke's EMS and now that Madara has the Rinnegan I think he is going to use it for himself because surely Madara knows that he has already made Sasuke too strong by giving Itachi's eyes and also Sasuke may have already learned how to counter Madara's space time tech just like Konan. Also the fact that Madara should know that Sasuke will eventually go after him so if Madara uses the Rinnegan he will be freaking unstoppable.

 

[naturo9]

kabutomaro resurrected itachi, nagato and the rest, but sasuke got itachi's (real one) eyes, then tobi/madara got nagato's (real one too) eyes. so the the five kage will be fighting opponents with almost the same techniques?

or what would madara's ultimate power once he implanted the rennigan into him? if he will. very scary and very dangerous.

 

[House]

kabutomaro resurrected itachi, nagato and the rest, but sasuke got itachi's (real one) eyes, then tobi/madara got nagato's (real one too) eyes. so the the five kage will be fighting opponents with almost the same techniques?

or what would madara's ultimate power once he implanted the rennigan into him? if he will. very scary and very dangerous.

Basically Kabuto will be controling them. If they find Kabuto, all those bodies will paralize, once Kabuto is down. And I'm sure they will notice that they were ressurected, because Akatsuki is all over the Bingo books, and once ther dead they have been crossed out. But I'm sure that they will put up a fight.

 

[Narutolover4321]

Holy crap! Was Nagato an Uzumaki?

Seriously i never knew that how did u find out

 

[silenceofthelambs]

Seriously i never knew that how did u find out

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"You are the third of the six paths...look at you, you overexerted yourself so much that the Uzumaki clan's trademark red hair turned snow white. And even in betrayal you smirk mockingly at me."

 

[Alkad]

I am curious why the covered part of Tobi's face when exposed was black... I still think there is more to Tobi than Madara...

I agree!! Why would it be so important to cover his face for this long if was just plain old Madara's face!! There has to be something more

That blackness was a shadow from the rest of his mask. The mask wasn't totally ripped and his left eye was shown from an angle. It means that we're still not told anything about his left face except that he had another sharingan. If we weren't shown that, everyone would assume that madara was blind now (and completely useless).

Without his right eye he might not be able to teleport, just like sasuke's amaterasu and susanoo are isolated in different eyes.

 

[Warlock Tigerwolf]

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"You are the third of the [sages] of the six paths...look at you, you overexerted yourself so much that the Uzumaki clan's trademark red hair turned snow white. And even in betrayal you smirk mockingly at me."

I'm afraid this is going to cause confusion all over again. I understand exactly what you mean, but it dawns on me that some others might not.

We'll be hearing a new round of "Nagato was the 3rd one to have rinnenegan?" and "Nagato was the 3rd sage of the six paths" all over again.

then again, maybe I don't give the lowest common denominator enough credit. Perhaps they will read it and realize that nagato was the third path, of the 6 for which the sage of the 6 paths was named.

Of course what exactly mades nagato the 3rd path hasn't been made blatantly obvious, I think it's his rinnenegan but could also be that he's an uzimaki, still think his eyes are more likely.

 

[silenceofthelambs]

I'm afraid this is going to cause confusion all over again. I understand exactly what you mean, but it dawns on me that some others might not.

We'll be hearing a new round of "Nagato was the 3rd one to have rinnenegan?" and "Nagato was the 3rd sage of the six paths" all over again.

then again, maybe I don't give the lowest common denominator enough credit. Perhaps they will read it and realize that nagato was the third path, of the 6 for which the sage of the 6 paths was named.

Of course what exactly mades nagato the 3rd path hasn't been made blatantly obvious, I think it's his rinnenegan but could also be that he's an uzimaki, still think his eyes are more likely.

You are right, that is going to cause confusion again. I meant that the Rinnegan that Nagato has makes him the third component of the Sage of the Six Paths, so I edited my post above to give it better clarity.

 

[uzumakiclanrules]

Somehow, I think Madara is after Naruto's body, just like Oro was after Sasuke's body...

Currently Madara doesn't seem to have a "form" as such...so maybe hes waiting for the right moment till Naruto gets stronger or gets certain Senju physicality(coz. thats what Madara's aiming for, a senju body and Uchiha chakra/sharingan...and Naruto's an Uzumaki...)

So, maybe he expects Naruto to master some senju/uzumaki speciality AND take control of Kyuubi yin(or was it yang?) chakra...then after getting Naruto's body his aim would be to extract the lost half of kyuubi's chakra, but in doing so, he'd have to revive Minato, because the chakra is sealed in Minato, and so Minato comes back to life and slaps some sense into Naruto and somehow makes Naruto gain control of his body and then gets rid of Madara...

One thing's for sure though...Naruto v Madara seems to be the final battle...the plot seems to be heading that way...whereas Naruto v Sasuke would be a subplot compared to that, so either Naruto kills Sasuke or Madara kills Sasuke(so Naruto can avenge his death) or Naruto manages to pull Sasuke over to his side....

 

[ninetailedhokagesage]

i didn't see the panel of him losing it thanks for showing me that

 

[dexter64]

In another translation by Sleepy Fans and

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you will find:
1. Madara is the 2nd SO6P.
2. In order to become SO6P you'll need both the Uchiha and Senju powers.

 

[dexter64]

If I remember correctly, in an interview Kishi said that 1 of Akatsuki member is Kushina's brother. So this chapter is a realization of that interview, not only Nagato is an Uzumaki, he should be Kushina's brother.

However, if that's true then a lot of questions had not been answered:
1. How did Nagato end up with his non ninja 'parents'?
2. How and when Madara implanted the rinnegan (if that's true) and how and when Madara got it?
3. How many rinnegans are available in total (remember all the 7 pains have 2 each)?