Sennin Jinchuuriki
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Well that doesn't answer anything, you are accusing how the manga is so illogical in that case why don't you make your own manga.
[Predictions] Naruto Manga 505 Discussion and 506 Predictions
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snake orochimaru
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Hum...the attack wasn't a jutsu or with any chakra externally envolved. It was simply a punch from naruto. A physical attack. And since it was so quick, the contact between Naruto and Samehada was very brief. So with such huge chakra, even if the sword managed to absorb some chakra, it wouldn't make a diference and since the contact between the two was so small, she didn't have a chance to absorb nothing but a tiny bit of chakra.
Another way of seeing it is that naruto attacked kisame who was inside the sword, so he attacked the sword. It could be that he "damaged" the sword. But if it even is a sword is something that is yet to be explained. It seems to be a living thing but very diferent from everything we have seen so far in the naruto universe.
bogdan2002
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I have only 1 qustion:What will happen whith sasuke's original eyes?
they could be transplanted to naruto?
they could be transplanted to naruto?
He didn't lose his original eyes. When an uchiha with mangeykou sharingan has his brother's mangeykou sharingan transplanted into him, the 2 set of eyes MERGE to form a new set of eyes: Eternal mangeykou Sharingan.
nonono that would ruin storyline lol.... sasuke will transplant itachis eyes and his old ones will be rendered useless because they've lost sight!! even kakashi has to be approaching his limit with his MS because withouth EMS the MS user will lose the sharingan forever!
Again, Naruto is a japanese manga, sometimes (as in very rarely) there was an error in translation which might be caused by lack of direct translation in English or by lack of understanding (by the translator) of the manga or simply by lack of time that made the translator didn't think clearly. The conversation between Sakura and Shino that you're revering to, in my opinion is one of those rare occasion.Half of the 28 pages in this thread are flaming, hating and arguments, shame on you all
Now I have a theory about all the speed/body flicker (teleportation)/FTG thing.
Ok we all know that speed is just the capability of a person to move fast, the faster he can move the more speed he has. Now about the body flicker also called teleportation. According to Shino it is just high speed movement. When Hanzo uses the body flicker technique (the "technique" part is important) he made a seal with his hands, suggesting that he had to focus his chakra and use it. Now why is that? Probably because the basis of the technique is increasing your speed to an absurd degree where normal, probably gifted and maybe even no shinobi can't track it, but it is not the speed you move with naturally without using any chakra to increase it. And as for the FTG it is a space-time technique which has nothing to do with speed, it moves you through space. I have a theory that the "time" part in "space-time technique" is simply an indicator that it is an instant reallocation of an object/person from one place to another, if it was simply a "space" tech that doesn't necessarily mean that the result would be instantenious (I don't care if I've misspelled this word).
Here is the definition of teleportation according to dictionary, A hypothetical method of transportation in which matter or information is dematerialized, usually instantaneously, at one point and recreated at another. Granted that in my opinion the normal space/time jutsu in Naruto world won't include the dematerialized and recreated parts, but Madara seems to have an advance space/time jutsu which involve those parts although it's not necessarily combine with the transportation part. We can see that the 'teleportation' that Sakura and Shino discussed was not the same with the definition of teleportation in English dictionary. Therefor to me the correct translation should be 'body flicker' not 'teleportation'.
I don't think Hanzo use space/time jutsu, take a look at the page after the Sakura and Shino discussion, there Kakashi thought, "he made no (hand) seals, had no summoning tattoos and still got his body out of the area?" leading him to conclude that Madara used space/time jutsu which is more advance than the 4th's. So I think Hanzo just used reverse summoning, which we all know that summoning has similar result with teleportation but differ in the method of doing it.
Teleportation in Naruto world, I think happened by manipulating both the space and the time, so the user would be able to transport farther in much less time (like almost instantly) than normal movement. However Minato's FTG is much faster than normal space/time, because he combine the space/time jutsu with the Uzumaki's sealing technique, which resulted in FTG almost exactly the same as summoning without the hand seals and tattoos.
I agree with you, that's why I asked the question before. But when you add your question about Killer Bee, then I think of something that for me make more sense. Maybe there is something in that place that prevent chakras' absorbing. What do you think?
I think Minato didn't have time to perfect rasengan due to his early dead. Of course he knew all those. He was a genius after all, he rescued Kushina from her kidnappers (I think all jounins) by himself at age 12.
OopsWrongHole
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I have a question that I have been wondering, Hanzo was stronger than Jiraiya, Orochimaru & Tsunade altogether, how did Pain beat Hanzo? Considering how far Jiraiya went up against Pain and could of survived if he escaped, Also taking into that I doubt the 4th Hokage was stronger than Jiraiya, Orochimaru & Tsunade if it was 3 vs 1.
So if the 4th Hokage wasn't strong enough to take them 3 on but Hanzo was & the 4th Hokage is stronger than Pain (Because Naruto isn't at the 4th level yet even with his new powers but Naruto defeated Pain before he even got his new Fox power cloak thing) how was Pain able to defeat Hanzo? and was Hanzo stronger than the 4th Hokage?
So if the 4th Hokage wasn't strong enough to take them 3 on but Hanzo was & the 4th Hokage is stronger than Pain (Because Naruto isn't at the 4th level yet even with his new powers but Naruto defeated Pain before he even got his new Fox power cloak thing) how was Pain able to defeat Hanzo? and was Hanzo stronger than the 4th Hokage?
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silenceofthelambs
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Hanzo was only stronger than Tsunade, Jiraiya, and Orochimaru at a certain point in time. Eventually, as the Sannin developed their skills, undoubtedly they became more powerful than him. It was the same thing with Nagato; sure, Hanzo was stronger than Nagato when Yahiko died during the ambush to kill their entire gang, but Nagato kept getting more powerful as the years went by, and eventually resurfaced in the world as a frightening power known as Pain. Hanzo was not stronger than the Sannin and Pain for all his life; no, he was surpassed before long by many other ninja.
Also, about Yamato's statement that Naruto is not on the Fourth's level yet, that does not mean Naruto is not as powerful as his father; it means that his speed has not yet reached Minato's level. It has nothing to do with the Flying Thunder God technique, as many seem to think, it only means that Naruto does not have the same agility his father had in battles. Naruto defeated Pain, simply put, because he was stronger than his father. Even Minato, who was a magnificent Shinobi, gives me doubts that he would be able to defeat Pain. After all, he was praised as the strongest in Akatsuki by Madara.
Nagato's corpses that he used to kill Jiraiya and fight Naruto were the same ones that killed Hanzo. It is highly likely that Pain eliminated everything Hanzo ever was by using that same gigantic Shinra Tensei he used to level Konoha. But I do not think Hanzo was more powerful than the Sannin and Pain during his lifetime; no, he was surpassed by great distances, and some could say his misguided means of trying to put down Nagato's forces were what led to his grisly downfall.
silenceofthelambs
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The design of person A's Mangekyou Sharingan, who took person B's eyes (and the design of their Mangekyou Sharingan) combine to appear as the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan.
Izuna's Mangekyou Sharingan
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Madara's Mangekyou Sharingan
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Put those two together, and here we have Madara's Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan
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The eyes don't exactly "merge," the designs of the two Mangekyou just combine to form the one we see with Madara, for example.
I've heard that as well and when i tried to look it up (and failed pretty bad at it) i learned that japan are REALLY big into holidays and festivals (similar to Halloween, or St. paddy's day which even though we consider it a holiday there's no real reason behind it like there is Christmas, Easter and Thanksgiving depending on your religion) so there something similar to that going on is my bet. but I'm not 100% sure so please don't take this as a fact you can look up the list of there holidays and stuff and there's ALOT of them!
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silenceofthelambs
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If you put together Sasuke and Itachi's Mangekyou Sharingan, you might get a general idea of what it will look like when Kishimoto decides to reveal it to the manga readers.
Itachi's Mangekyou Sharingan
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Sasuke's Mangekyou Sharingan
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Sasuke's Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, possibly something like what is seen below
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What's equally interesting is, the powers Sasuke will gain with his new eyes, and how they help him to fight Naruto when that fight comes around.
yondaimeminato
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how do you know that the 4th wasn't strong enough to take J-man, tsunade and oro? have you seen minato lose to them somewhere in the manga that I didn't see? or are you just making and educated comprehension as to what might have happened. But your comment seems as if the fourth lost to the three legendary somewhere in the manga which it's not true.
I could assume this: The fourth could have still defeated the three legendary sannins and there wouldn't be a way to prove me wrong just like there wouldn't be a way to prove wrong what you say in your comment. 4th vs 3 legendary Sannins is a fight that will stay a mystery because it didn't happened in the manga. You can only assume what might happen.
I don't think the three legendary sannins utilize their full potential when they fought hanzou. I mean J-man didn't use sage mode when he fought against hanzou and oro wasn't as strong as when he was when fought the third. I don't know how strong Tsunade might have been.
J-man used his sage mode against Pain, this is how he got that far but once god realm and hell realm showed up it was already over.
Naruto got lucky that God realm powers weren't fully recover from the big blast since he didn't know that naruto would have showed up so soon. By the time god realm got his powers back his key pain corpses were already taken down.
And no, Hanzou wasn't stronger than the fourth. To be able to defeat minato one has to have special powers (time/space jutsu) and even so it would be hard to defeat him. The reason for this is that his FGT mark that he leaves in his opponent body and the way he utilizes his kunai to teleport makes him extremely dangerous. If you get marked by minato the battle will be over no matter how many jutsus you can use with hand seals because before you even think of moving your finger, you will appear stabbed just like what happened to madara. He didn't even have time to make his body tangible.
YEA YOU ARE RITE LOL THATS WHAT I WAS TRYNA TELL THE OTHA GUY.. The eye's don't merge.. its a transplant an when itachi's eyes enter's sasuke's body and field of vision .. itachi's eye's will evolve because of sasuke's blood and gain light again creating EMS from itachi's already blinded MS eye's.
Dude you are so rite .. very well put .. i hate talking about who would beat who and it never happened in the manga because its a pointless stailmate!!! 4th hokage vs 3 sannin .. would b a great battle but my money is on the 4th .. speed is everything in battle.. can't hit touch or trap! what you can't see!! but forget that its stupid because 3 against 1 is bad odds for even the fastest shinobi lol.
does anyone think that raikage will take back all that nasty stuff he said to naruto after he see's how strong he really is???
silenceofthelambs
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You really think the Sannin would lose to Minato? I have no intention whatsoever of offending you, but remember, they're not the Sannin for nothing. Minato, for all the speed he has, is going to have to put markings on each one of them just so he can land a hit on them with his Flying Thunder God technique. That in itself is a difficult task, and don't forget, Jiraiya was Minato's teacher. He knows him better than most people out there, and that includes his abilities and whatever tricks he might try. It would be a good battle to see, but I'm going to have to say the Sannin would take this one, with difficulties of course. Tsunade, Jiraiya, Orochimaru...that's just too much to handle, perhaps even for an intelligent, powerful person like Minato. But, in the end, it's your opinion against mine, so your word is as good as mine.
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