[Predictions] Naruto Manga 501 Discussion and 502 Predictions

[Dragon Lord]

Guys, about the strongest hokage debate, why don't you discusss in some other thread. This thread is for the current manga discussion and next manga prediction. Sorry for the reminder



Its not Tobi's eyes that turned to full moon shape but the Kyubi's.

if what you say is true then that proves my theory even more!!, the fullmoon is indeed connected to controlling the kyuubi!!

 

[uhIpooped]

well yea, I just want to see how minato managed to seal the nine tail demon fox. Madara said that he waited a long time to unseal the nine tail demon fox, I am sure he wouldn't want to wait another long time to undo the seal of naruto. I am sure madara would have tried to stop minato but he couldn't. I just want to see how minato was able to accomplish this even though he said that madara saw through everything he did.

we are going to see something in the next chapter about what truly happened 16 years ago.

I can't wait.

well if memory serves me right in earlier chapters, Minato had asked the villagers to hold off the Kyuubi as long as they could until he arrived.. This to me says that he had to go to the 'scroll room' (where Naruto stole the scroll of seals) and look a few things up. To be sure that his seal was as complete as possible. The fact that a bijuu seal weakens during child birth, is probably why he sealed it within his son, he would not ever give birth (at least I hope xd) and also being Kushina's son ensured that he MAY have chakaras similar to hers and be able to withstand the Kyuubi.

Now back to the seals ...
When we saw Naruto take the Kyuubi's chakara, a new seal appeared. Many argue that he is reincarnated S6P .. NO! as Kushina said, her village was known for their powerful seals, and Minato had to have known this and either placed another safeguard in Naruto's seal to release this new one, or this is a byproduct of the Uzimaki clan, since they are distant relatives to the Senju, they would also come from S6P blood line. For me I believe Minato placed this new seal there which was most likely written in one of the scrolls that Hashi wrote when he was married to the 1st Kyuubi jin. She would have had intimate knowledge of her clans most powerful seals, and entrusted them to Hashi, her beloved.

on a side note... "that jutsu" I also believe to be a tech from the scroll of seals Naruto stole, but was unable to do it at the time.. perhaps it was a tech that the 1st Kyuubi jin used, and was written in this scroll .. this makes sense why Naruto was unable to do it until he received the 'key' to his seal, because it involves the Kyuubi's chakara.
that is all...

 

[Jinchuuriki of Juubi]

well if memory serves me right in earlier chapters, Minato had asked the villagers to hold off the Kyuubi as long as they could until he arrived.. This to me says that he had to go to the 'scroll room' (where Naruto stole the scroll of seals) and look a few things up. To be sure that his seal was as complete as possible. The fact that a bijuu seal weakens during child birth, is probably why he sealed it within his son, he would not ever give birth (at least I hope xd) and also being Kushina's son ensured that he MAY have chakaras similar to hers and be able to withstand the Kyuubi.

Now back to the seals ...
When we saw Naruto take the Kyuubi's chakara, a new seal appeared. Many argue that he is reincarnated S6P .. NO! as Kushina said, her village was known for their powerful seals, and Minato had to have known this and either placed another safeguard in Naruto's seal to release this new one, or this is a byproduct of the Uzimaki clan, since they are distant relatives to the Senju, they would also come from S6P blood line. For me I believe Minato placed this new seal there which was most likely written in one of the scrolls that Hashi wrote when he was married to the 1st Kyuubi jin. She would have had intimate knowledge of her clans most powerful seals, and entrusted them to Hashi, her beloved.

on a side note... "that jutsu" I also believe to be a tech from the scroll of seals Naruto stole, but was unable to do it at the time.. perhaps it was a tech that the 1st Kyuubi jin used, and was written in this scroll .. this makes sense why Naruto was unable to do it until he received the 'key' to his seal, because it involves the Kyuubi's chakara.
that is all...

brilliant observation my friend.and about the "that jutsu" part I think this is the best idea on the subject I've heard

 

[Hipster Madara]

Kakuzu was doing nothing at first Shikamaru and co were getting nervous just by looking at him and lets face it except Kakashi no Konoha Jounin has the ability to defeat a Akatsuki member by himself. Konoha ninjas who can defeat Akatsuki members are Naruto, Danzou, Tsunade, Jiraiya and Oro(both of them died) and Shikamaru is very smart and when fighting in a Hokage level fight you need both brain strength(that is powerful techs) and speed. Shikamaru has only one aspect I really can't see Shikamaru being able to defeat any Akatsuki members in his first time. If it is a second time battle Shikamaru will most likely win because he will be able to figure out his opponents techniques. Remember the only reason Jiraiya couldn't defeat Pain was because Jiraiya wasn't able to figure out Pains mysteries. A great ninja like Jiraiya needed so much time and when he figured it out it was too late.

ur probably right i didnt say shikamaru could beat him the first time i was just saying it was more like 2 on 4 instead of all 4 against 1

Anyways when did an Akatsuki kill Oro?? Sasuke wasn't really an Akatsuki member and i always thought sasuke was like partnered with Akatsuki not like part of it.....

 

[kydo]

lol this is another response to the debates about Hokages in this topic.The Second Hokage.

Remember that Zabuza was a Mist Anbu.And back in the day (the time of The Second Hokage) the quality of Mist shinobi was probably better cuz theyre shinobi training/development methods were probably even' more intense back then. Kakashi a genius shinobi was beaten by Zabuza even tho he has the Sharingan (Kakashi would have been dead without Naruto & Sasuke combo).The Second was Kage lvl which gives him an advantage agaist Anbu lvl shinobi, but 20 is a different story.God realm got owned by 3 Shinobi, Kakashi, Choza and Choji, so is it bad if a Kage lost to 20 high lvl ninja (anbu = higher lvl than Choji, posibly Choza).Gaara was beaten by 1 Akatsuki Member, all Jinchuriki were except Naruto, and a Tailed Beast/Jinchuriki can be considered to be Kage lvl strength.Each Akatsuki Member was killed by 1 or a small group of Shinobi, much less than 20 that had Genin in their ranks.

I said all that just to give other reasonings as to why the Second dieing shouldnt be a suprise against 20 Anbu. But my real theory is that;
maybe if they stood and fought the 20 Anbu, with his team's help he posibly could have won, but at the cost of a couple of his students life. Because its imposible to protect arround 4 or so students from 20 shinobi (unless ur the awesomness that is Minato). So as the Hokage he made the decision to Sacrifice his one life so the heroes of the future could live. :hypertobi:

 

[Sagekiid95]

Dont take this personally but all those arrows make it A LOT harder to read and i dont see why they are necessary!!! they make me sort of confused. Before ppl hate mail me i think of this just as constructive criticism

(No offence taken)<<< iit's a habit. People(s) ask "why do u use those arrow?" all the tiime<<< but instead of using periods (...), I use arrows<<< (I'll try to stop doing it)<<<

 

[Sagekiid95]

(No offence taken)<<< iit's a habit. People(s) ask "why do u use those arrow?" all the tiime<<< but instead of using periods (...), I use arrows<<< (I'll try to stop doing it)<<<

Do you agree with what I said<<<??

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

ur probably right i didnt say shikamaru could beat him the first time i was just saying it was more like 2 on 4 instead of all 4 against 1

Anyways when did an Akatsuki kill Oro?? Sasuke wasn't really an Akatsuki member and i always thought sasuke was like partnered with Akatsuki not like part of it.....

I never said that Oro was killed by any Akatsuki members remember Oro was part of Akatsuki I was giving examples of how powerful Akatsuki members are

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

guys i think i discovered something important..... take a look....

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here itachi is saying that after madara lost to hashirama...madara is still alive and well...AS DO HIS EYES AND POWERS.....
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now here itachi is saying that after madara was stopped by minato.... he is nothing now but a shell of his former self.....
these evidences apparently tells that minato was the one who ripped off madara's power not hashirama..... maybe he just dont want anyone to know that he is behind the kyuubi incident so he said that hashirama was the one who did it.........maybe he wants to use the kyuubi incident as an excuse to make the shinobi world believe he is dead...maybe madara wants to hide behind the shadows of akatsuki until the moon's eye plan is complete...

itachi knew that madara was the one who was behind the kyuubi attack...so i think that itachi discovered it from that very night of the kyuubi attack... madara saw something interesting in itachi (maybe it involves sasuke)...so he decided not to kill itachi...

i tought about it and made sure it suits the present scenario....so what do you guys think??

But just think why on earth would Madara wait for so long I mean when the 1st died he could have attacked or even when the 2nd died he could have easily destroyed Konoha but he had to wait all that time. So my guess is that he was still suffering from the damage of fighting the 1st and then when he attacked he was also damaged by Minato so he also had to wait for another couple of years and when he realized that he himself has become weak compared to his prime he made the master plan to make Akatsuki so that top level ninjas would do his work thus making it so easy for himself. Also making Pain the leader made sure only Itachi Pain and Konan knew about him besides his faithful Zetsu and Kisame.

 

[leenox]

sad chap..but i still like it...lots of info...

 

[Jinchuuriki of Juubi]

lol this is another response to the debates about Hokages in this topic.The Second Hokage.

Remember that Zabuza was a Mist Anbu.And back in the day (the time of The Second Hokage) the quality of Mist shinobi was probably better cuz theyre shinobi training/development methods were probably even' more intense back then. Kakashi a genius shinobi was beaten by Zabuza even tho he has the Sharingan (Kakashi would have been dead without Naruto & Sasuke combo).The Second was Kage lvl which gives him an advantage agaist Anbu lvl shinobi, but 20 is a different story.God realm got owned by 3 Shinobi, Kakashi, Choza and Choji, so is it bad if a Kage lost to 20 high lvl ninja (anbu = higher lvl than Choji, posibly Choza).Gaara was beaten by 1 Akatsuki Member, all Jinchuriki were except Naruto, and a Tailed Beast/Jinchuriki can be considered to be Kage lvl strength.Each Akatsuki Member was killed by 1 or a small group of Shinobi, much less than 20 that had Genin in their ranks.

I said all that just to give other reasonings as to why the Second dieing shouldnt be a suprise against 20 Anbu. But my real theory is that;
maybe if they stood and fought the 20 Anbu, with his team's help he posibly could have won, but at the cost of a couple of his students life. Because its imposible to protect arround 4 or so students from 20 shinobi (unless ur the awesomness that is Minato). So as the Hokage he made the decision to Sacrifice his one life so the heroes of the future could live. :hypertobi:

love the sig

 

[zapp42823]

awesome! thats all i can say, cant wait for the next chapter.

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

lol this is another response to the debates about Hokages in this topic.The Second Hokage.

Remember that Zabuza was a Mist Anbu.And back in the day (the time of The Second Hokage) the quality of Mist shinobi was probably better cuz theyre shinobi training/development methods were probably even' more intense back then. Kakashi a genius shinobi was beaten by Zabuza even tho he has the Sharingan (Kakashi would have been dead without Naruto & Sasuke combo).The Second was Kage lvl which gives him an advantage agaist Anbu lvl shinobi, but 20 is a different story.God realm got owned by 3 Shinobi, Kakashi, Choza and Choji, so is it bad if a Kage lost to 20 high lvl ninja (anbu = higher lvl than Choji, posibly Choza).Gaara was beaten by 1 Akatsuki Member, all Jinchuriki were except Naruto, and a Tailed Beast/Jinchuriki can be considered to be Kage lvl strength.Each Akatsuki Member was killed by 1 or a small group of Shinobi, much less than 20 that had Genin in their ranks.

I said all that just to give other reasonings as to why the Second dieing shouldnt be a suprise against 20 Anbu. But my real theory is that;
maybe if they stood and fought the 20 Anbu, with his team's help he posibly could have won, but at the cost of a couple of his students life. Because its imposible to protect arround 4 or so students from 20 shinobi (unless ur the awesomness that is Minato). So as the Hokage he made the decision to Sacrifice his one life so the heroes of the future could live. :hypertobi:

I know what you are saying but think like this Kakashi was not so powerful when he fought Zabuza hell he was beaten so badly he was hospitalized for a week and Itachi was just playing around. So the thing is all these "Special Jounin" thing is nothing when compared to a Kage level ninja. Have we ever seen any special Jounin except Kakashi to put up a decent fight against an Akatsuki members the other name that comes in mind is Gai. For guys like Sasori Kisame and entire Akatsuki all these high ninjas are actually nothing. So if you think like this the 2nd was with six or seven other ninjas and so those ninjas must be top class or at least very good. So the 2nd could have beaten them but he didn't took the risk. And all this happened because most probably the 2nd Hokage doesn't have any significant importance in the manga and Kishi had to show how Sarutobi was Hokage at such a young age. Remember how Pain took on entire Konoha and he actually was winning, just think an entire village almost defeated by a single ninja. Some guys said that God Realm and other pain were defeated by a group on ninjas true but the thing is no one was actually able to defeat Pain. And now we are at such a stage where we will see ninjas with at least as strength as Pain if not more. So at this stage of the manga ANBU and special Jounin are really insect when compared to all the Kages Jinchuurikis and Madara and co

 

[Scorps]

Indeed all of Akatsuki could have been kages (in terms of strength) from their own villages. Sasori was strong, smart, "immortal", and very cunning. Deidara was problably the "not-so-kage-like" ninja of them all. But still, pretty strong, young, more or less smart. Kakuzu 'till now was one of the most powerfull members of akatsuki. In all aspects. Deadly strength, "immortal", smart as hell. Itachi was probably the strongest ninja that the village created after Minato. Even if you consider all the previous kages, he is still on par. He was a genius. Really. More than sasuke will ever hope to be. Hidan, is the "weak link". He is not very smart. And not very strong. Only the whole immortallity thing was a real asset. But nonetheless he could have still been a Kage. Strong enough for that. Nagato could be a kage easily as well as kohan. kisame is a monster so....yes, definitly could be a kage. Zetsu...well, i don't really know what he is capabble of except the whole eat bodies, apear everywhere, separate thing...

But it's strange that kishi made theese character super-strong (it's like a kage army) and then makes them lose to a buch of childs most of the time. Does it mean that, for example, with sasori. Old grandma was strong but old...not that strong. And if we consider that sasori was like a kage...is Sakura like a strong anbu or even stronger? don't think so...
Kishi wanted the children to be strong but...I think he overdid it. Then it's like he does a step back. Sakura was all strong and had skill in her fight with sasori, but she is becoming weak...really. That attack on sasuke? The time that she got knoked unconscient by kabuto when naruto turned 4 tails on orochimaru.... It's a shame they don't keep the strength throughtout the series.

And I think that (alone) tsunade, jiraya, orochimaru, kakashi, naruto, danzou, neiji, might-guy, yamato and problably the two higher ups would be the only ones capable of killing and akatsuki member alone...

By the way, what's up with kisame? What does he expect to do? Is he stronger than we think? Because, with killerbee and naruto like they are now...well, wouldn't want to be their enemy...

Still think that kishi is going to make killerbee die. Naruto will be the only one left. Then, somehow, in the battle against sasuke, naruto will control fully the fox power and sasuke will use the other 8 tailed beasts power against him. Then, when they're fighting, madara will summon the jubii's body and start to bring it back to life. The ultimate fight may be naruto+sasuke vs jubi+madara.

 

[Akatsuki leader]

Indeed all of Akatsuki could have been kages (in terms of strength) from their own villages. Sasori was strong, smart, "immortal", and very cunning. Deidara was problably the "not-so-kage-like" ninja of them all. But still, pretty strong, young, more or less smart. Kakuzu 'till now was one of the most powerfull members of akatsuki. In all aspects. Deadly strength, "immortal", smart as hell. Itachi was probably the strongest ninja that the village created after Minato. Even if you consider all the previous kages, he is still on par. He was a genius. Really. More than sasuke will ever hope to be. Hidan, is the "weak link". He is not very smart. And not very strong. Only the whole immortallity thing was a real asset. But nonetheless he could have still been a Kage. Strong enough for that. Nagato could be a kage easily as well as kohan. kisame is a monster so....yes, definitly could be a kage. Zetsu...well, i don't really know what he is capabble of except the whole eat bodies, apear everywhere, separate thing...

But it's strange that kishi made theese character super-strong (it's like a kage army) and then makes them lose to a buch of childs most of the time. Does it mean that, for example, with sasori. Old grandma was strong but old...not that strong. And if we consider that sasori was like a kage...is Sakura like a strong anbu or even stronger? don't think so...
Kishi wanted the children to be strong but...I think he overdid it. Then it's like he does a step back. Sakura was all strong and had skill in her fight with sasori, but she is becoming weak...really. That attack on sasuke? The time that she got knoked unconscient by kabuto when naruto turned 4 tails on orochimaru.... It's a shame they don't keep the strength throughtout the series.

And I think that (alone) tsunade, jiraya, orochimaru, kakashi, naruto, danzou, neiji, might-guy, yamato and problably the two higher ups would be the only ones capable of killing and akatsuki member alone...

By the way, what's up with kisame? What does he expect to do? Is he stronger than we think? Because, with killerbee and naruto like they are now...well, wouldn't want to be their enemy...

Still think that kishi is going to make killerbee die. Naruto will be the only one left. Then, somehow, in the battle against sasuke, naruto will control fully the fox power and sasuke will use the other 8 tailed beasts power against him. Then, when they're fighting, madara will summon the jubii's body and start to bring it back to life. The ultimate fight may be naruto+sasuke vs jubi+madara.

Kakashi and might-guy, yamato and maybe neji too cant kill alone akatsuki members... their chakras too low... think before write.....

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

Indeed all of Akatsuki could have been kages (in terms of strength) from their own villages. Sasori was strong, smart, "immortal", and very cunning. Deidara was problably the "not-so-kage-like" ninja of them all. But still, pretty strong, young, more or less smart. Kakuzu 'till now was one of the most powerfull members of akatsuki. In all aspects. Deadly strength, "immortal", smart as hell. Itachi was probably the strongest ninja that the village created after Minato. Even if you consider all the previous kages, he is still on par. He was a genius. Really. More than sasuke will ever hope to be. Hidan, is the "weak link". He is not very smart. And not very strong. Only the whole immortallity thing was a real asset. But nonetheless he could have still been a Kage. Strong enough for that. Nagato could be a kage easily as well as kohan. kisame is a monster so....yes, definitly could be a kage. Zetsu...well, i don't really know what he is capabble of except the whole eat bodies, apear everywhere, separate thing...

But it's strange that kishi made theese character super-strong (it's like a kage army) and then makes them lose to a buch of childs most of the time. Does it mean that, for example, with sasori. Old grandma was strong but old...not that strong. And if we consider that sasori was like a kage...is Sakura like a strong anbu or even stronger? don't think so...
Kishi wanted the children to be strong but...I think he overdid it. Then it's like he does a step back. Sakura was all strong and had skill in her fight with sasori, but she is becoming weak...really. That attack on sasuke? The time that she got knoked unconscient by kabuto when naruto turned 4 tails on orochimaru.... It's a shame they don't keep the strength throughtout the series.

And I think that (alone) tsunade, jiraya, orochimaru, kakashi, naruto, danzou, neiji, might-guy, yamato and problably the two higher ups would be the only ones capable of killing and akatsuki member alone...

By the way, what's up with kisame? What does he expect to do? Is he stronger than we think? Because, with killerbee and naruto like they are now...well, wouldn't want to be their enemy...

Still think that kishi is going to make killerbee die. Naruto will be the only one left. Then, somehow, in the battle against sasuke, naruto will control fully the fox power and sasuke will use the other 8 tailed beasts power against him. Then, when they're fighting, madara will summon the jubii's body and start to bring it back to life. The ultimate fight may be naruto+sasuke vs jubi+madara.

Yes you are right Kishi overdid things a bit. When Sasori fought granny Chiyo and Sakura at the end elder Chiyo said that Sasori saw through the last attack but for "some reason" he didn't attack also Sakura got the time to make the antidote. I think the ones from Konoha who actually can win any Akatsuki members head on is Jiraiya,Orochimaru(though both of them died but just recently), Tsunade, Kakashi and of course Naruto. Gai might have a chance but I don't know about Yamato but Neji is STILL not on those levels but he should reach those awesome Kage levels one day

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

Kakashi and might-guy, yamato and maybe neji too cant kill alone akatsuki members... their chakras too low... think before write.....

Well you may be right about the others but Kakashi can definitely kill some Akatsuki members on his own. It has been a long time since Itachi defeated him so easily. Kakashi can at least defeat Sasori, Deidara, Hidan, Konan and may be Orochimaru. Yes he doesn't have much chakra but that doesn't always decides the victor. And dude Gai has a lot of chakra and from what I saw he also has a fair chance of defeating some Akatsuki members but Kakashi for sure can defeat some Akatsuki members if you want to exclude Konan you can but still Kakashi after getting the MS and his space time tech Kamui has become very strong. The time he fought Deidara that was the first time he used Kamui so he couldn't do it perfectly but now is a whole different thing. Kakashi rocksxd

 

[Hipster Madara]

First of all, if you start making real life examples again like you did in minato vs madara thread. I am ending my conversation with you. If there is anything I can't stand is people making real life examples to support their assumption.

Have in mind that naruto is made in Japan. There is a difference of culture and etc in Japan.



the second is assuming that they are master bounty hunters based on how they are tracking them. Assumptions can either be true or wrong. Those kunais weren't distraction, those kunais had seals that allowed him to teleport next to the kunais. Minato had the hand seal of kagebushin. Basically he wouldn't have needed the help of the other ninjas. He would have just done kagebushin before and have his copies throw the kunais then teleport. But to make it faster, he told the other ninjas to throw the kunais.

And one of the ninjas said just observe and don't blink because it will finish in a blink of an eye.



If you are saying that the third's full power was when he fought orochimaru then with more reason he is not powerful than minato. I purposely avoid mentioning that fight because supposedly that fight doesn't count because he was old.



I just showed you the evidence, other thing is that you are a hard headed person who doesn't accept. If you want an animated version then watch the animated version when madara was talking with sasuke about his past.

If you don't accept my evidence then show me an evidence that contradicts it or anything better than mine.

Honestly i think U R the hard headed person! you try to see all of the info as evidence towards minato is better than all. Its great that u r carefully looking at the info but its possible to see it too closely and to miss the point. if madara was almost defeated already he probably had used most if not all of his chakra and was not in any physical condition to use any jutsu or space tech anymore.. It probably takes alot of chakra to do that...

 

[Dragon Lord]

the first hokage was the strongest hokage, it is absolute!! i say this not with my feelings, but through observation!!, although one thing im not certain of yet since we havnt seen narutos new powers yet, if naruto has supassed the first hokage yet or not.

i think maybe...

 

[silenceofthelambs]

Honestly i think U R the hard headed person! you try to see all of the info as evidence towards minato is better than all. Its great that u r carefully looking at the info but its possible to see it too closely and to miss the point. if madara was almost defeated already he probably had used most if not all of his chakra and was not in any physical condition to use any jutsu or space tech anymore.. It probably takes alot of chakra to do that...

He continously tells me I am "hardheaded" because I refuse to accept his point of view, which is not even true. In the Minato vs. Madara thread, he did the same thing as well. Whenever I would present a different side of the situation to him (or correct his false information), he would always write me off by saying "you have no proof" or "you can't prove this to me," when much of the things he wrote in fact had no evidence as well. I'm surprised that despite all the things the Naruto characters have said about that subject (chapters 440 and 455), he still continued to argue in favor of something that had no ground.

If Madara were as weak as yondaimeminato said, why would he himself confront Minato, Kushina, and a newborn Naruto? Because he is not as "weak" as he lets on; Madara lied to Sasuke about what happened sixteen years ago with the Nine-Tails; he could be lying about just how much power he still has.

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"Though he lost the battle for control, he remains alive and well, as do his eyes, and their power."

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"Today Madara is a pathetic shell of his former self. He's no longer worthy of being considered the greatest Uchiha."

Look at that; Itachi just contradicted himself. He says Madara is "alive and well," powers still intact, yet is a "pathetic shell of his former self." Why does Itachi do this? Because, knowing how much Sasuke craves power, he does not want him to get involved with Madara, by presenting him as a weak character who lost all his power a long time ago.

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"I can't believe Uchiha Madara is really still alive...why is someone of your caliber going about this in such a roundabout manner? As powerful as you are, you should be able to execute any plan without a hitch."

The Tsuchikage, having fought Madara before, recognizes his extraordinary strength, and asks him why he is doing everything "in such a roundabout manner;" because if Madara were to display all his strength, the Kages would take action faster. Madara wants to make the Kages comfortable by saying he is weak and cannot do anything, after his loss to Hashirama Senju. Perhaps Madara might really be planning on showing his full strength when he needs it most - the Fourth Shinobi World War.

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"Madara himself is taking a great risk using the power of the seven bijuu this way. If it were no risk, then he would not have gone to the trouble of coming here and attempting to negotiate. It would seem that the situation is not entirely in his favor."

This is what I meant. By making himself appear powerless, he is giving the Kages hope, but, as I said, he might be doing this intentionally. You make someone feel comfortable, then you completely exploit that feeling of safety, crushing them entirely.

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"A member of Akatsuki...the one with the mask. Back then...he saw through everything I did...he's no ordinary ninja..."

If Minato was able to fight against Madara, I'm sure he would. But it is just for that reason - seeing through everything he did, Minato found himself unable to even challenge Madara; and that is why he sealed the Nine-Tailed Fox into Naruto, hoping he would be able to fight Madara should he attack Konoha again. That Minato vs. Madara thread should've been closed when this chapter came out.

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"He told me the guy with the mask from Akatsuki was behind the fox attack 16 years ago! And he was so strong not even the 4th could do anything against him!"

Naruto himself says it; repeating a point Minato made earlier. Ignorance is the only way one can keep arguing that Minato is more powerful than Madara; it is Kishimoto's story, and he says himself Madara is much more powerful than Minato.

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"You're a smart one. I expected nothing less of Uchiha Madara...you're a different sort altogether."

Kabuto, who has orchestrated a situation that could prove to be quite dangerous for Madara, still respected the strength he had, as everyone else in the series does.

Having said all this, I think that Madara is covering what should be there, not what isn't. His left eye, in my opinion, is most likely still functioning, and could possibly be the one containing his Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. Like I said, it could all be part of a plot to keep his true strength hidden from all.