[Predictions] Naruto Manga 499 Discussion and 500 Predictions

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

my best guess would be, long before, at the age of the first hokage, the kyuubi was indeed a freak of nature and that madara, luckily, had the first glimpse of the kyuubi. he tricked the kyuubi with genjutsu (reason why when the fox saw sasuke's sharingan the fox said eyes more sinister than mine) into fighting hashirama but since hashirama had the upper hand, he pawned the kyuubi and took the kyubi as his own in the process... he then distributed the other bijuus but made sure that the kyubii was within the village's reach... then they found kushina or whatever...
with madara and kushina thinggy, my only explanation is genjutsu... i dont think madara has the ability to extract the kyuubi in its original form, i do believe that kushina lost control and got transformed into the kyuubi and that when minato sealed the kyuubi, kushina went along coz she was the transformed kyuubi...

may be u r right but i don't know whether if using genjutsu can let the Kyuubi take control

 

[Jonesy161]

i word OMFG, i think this is the best chapter ever but i dont understand how could Naruto control so many KB on Sage mode, i tought his limit was only 2 , and what about the SO6p, is naruto a reincarnation of him, and does he allready have the fox powers, if not, he is too powerfull now, not to mention later with the fox

Naruto was only able to have 2 clones when he fought Pein because he had 2 more collecting nature energy back at the frog mountain. Here, he was sitting still already in reality so he was able to accumulate nature energy to use in his mind. Since he didn't need 2 clones to collect energy this time, having more then 2 clones in battle wouldn't have affected the collection of energy to become disturbed.

And what are you talking about he too powerful??? If Madara really is the true Madara, Naruto needs power to go on level with 2 Uchihas who both possess the EMS. If anything, Naruto needs more to defeat them. Not to mention if Madara somehow succeeds in resurecting the Juubi without the half of the fox in Naruto, then that means Naruto will have to fight the Juubi in near perfect condition. That's probably why the SO6P appeared in sillouette form on Naruto. If this power will allow him to go on par with the Juubi, then Sasuke is once again the speck in the eye of true power compared to Naruto. Now we can see that annoying character finally die, but he might just be scared by Naruto and forced to become good again (lame ending, he should die).

 

[Jonesy161]

I'd also like to point out of predictions made years ago. Some believed that saying of the sharingan was born from the legend of a byakugan user and a demon mating, and their child born with demonic eyes, the sharingan. Many said this was proof of Hinata and Naruto being future couples as the Kyubi is a demon, and Hinata is a byakugan user, the kyubi might have had some influence on their child, establishing the Uchihas once again if Sasuke and Madara finally died, eliminating the Uchiha race once and for all. Well, chapter 499 served as proof of that being wrong now. If Kushina was the last Jinchuuriki, that goes to show that the presence of the fox has no influence on the child being born, as she was pregnant with Naruto at the time, and today, there is no affect upon Naruto (ie. being more demon like, demon like powers, etc.) from being birthed by a mother with the power of the Kyubi.

It appears Kishi is finished with expanding the story and is now tying up loose ends. Further shows the manga will soon come to an end.

 

[Jonesy161]

Itachi's necklace is nothing like Naruto's/Rikudou's necklace and they don't show a necklace on Nagato...

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The Necklace wasn't on Nagato, it was on the Deva Pein Path, God Realm in other words. Yahiko I think his name was? It was on that body of Pein.

 

[Jonesy161]

God realm had a necklace but it did not resemble Naruto's/Rikudou's necklace.

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How do you know Rikudou Sennin left the stone tablet for the Uchiha? How did Rikudou even know about the Sharingan if neither him nor his disciples had it?

They knew Rikoudo left the stone tablet because it his preechings on it with his writings. Also, he didn't leave it for the sharingan users, only one who possesses the rinnegan can decipher it in it's entirety, other eye forms can only partially or cannot decipher it. The sharingan can only partially read it, but Madara was able to learn everything in full from Pein. He used Pein to learn the truth about the Juubi. Pein had the rinnegan, so he was able to read it completely.

 

[donnic]

i wonder if naruto will be able to turn into the fox yet have control like bee can i think it would be cool but it is either a tad over powered or useless since madara and maybe sasuke can control the nine tails

 

[Alkad]

i wonder if naruto will be able to turn into the fox yet have control like bee can i think it would be cool but it is either a tad over powered or useless since madara and maybe sasuke can control the nine tails

since he'd have full control over the kyubi's chakra, he could do kage bunshin, fully transform and enter sage mode. clones only disperse on strong direct hits or when the original loses consciousness.

madara's control over the biju is similar to that on other people. But only he has the skill and chakra to force a biju into a genjutsu. Hashirama, on the other hand, could control them by suppressing their chakra flow (or something like that, similar to yamato)... maybe that's not real control, but it's good enough for him to be able to give them all up to the other countries. Then he died, and the other hokage were left with all the biju outside their country. stupid hashirama senjuU_U
genjutsu does not work once he gets the kyubi to cooperate

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

since he'd have full control over the kyubi's chakra, he could do kage bunshin, fully transform and enter sage mode. clones only disperse on strong direct hits or when the original loses consciousness.

madara's control over the biju is similar to that on other people. But only he has the skill and chakra to force a biju into a genjutsu. Hashirama, on the other hand, could control them by suppressing their chakra flow (or something like that, similar to yamato)... maybe that's not real control, but it's good enough for him to be able to give them all up to the other countries. Then he died, and the other hokage were left with all the biju outside their country. stupid hashirama senjuU_U
genjutsu does not work once he gets the kyubi to cooperate

Well when Itachi and Sasuke fought in that secret Uchiha place there was the sign of the Fox so that means the Sharingan has the ability to control the Kyuubi and that's it. If Madara was able to control all other Bijuus it would have been mentioned but when Madara fought Hashirama he only had the Kyuubi and Hashirama had all those other Bijuus I think I also a picture in the manga. So the Sharingan is only capable of controlling the Kyuubi but I think it's not the Sharingan but it's either the MS or EMS. On the other hand we saw Yamato controlling the Kyuubi's chakra because he had some cells of the First which shows that Hashirama was able to control all the Bijuus by suppressing their chakras or whatever method.

 

[irkool_budd]

Well when Itachi and Sasuke fought in that secret Uchiha place there was the sign of the Fox so that means the Sharingan has the ability to control the Kyuubi and that's it. If Madara was able to control all other Bijuus it would have been mentioned but when Madara fought Hashirama he only had the Kyuubi and Hashirama had all those other Bijuus I think I also a picture in the manga. So the Sharingan is only capable of controlling the Kyuubi but I think it's not the Sharingan but it's either the MS or EMS. On the other hand we saw Yamato controlling the Kyuubi's chakra because he had some cells of the First which shows that Hashirama was able to control all the Bijuus by suppressing their chakras or whatever method.

but let me just point out that the "control" that we are talking about is just supression not the type that KB has on his bijuu or else someone might get confused...ME

also, to the clone-sage dilemma, remember what fukasaku said? he told shima that at his level of sage mode user he can only manage to control a bunch of kage bunshins...so, its safe to say that when naruto was fighting pain, he wasnt at the same level when he was fighting the kyuubi, hence, the number of kage bunshins we saw increased... wild guess tho

ps. i would love to see naruto gain full control of the fox and go fox then kage bunshin! wooohhoooo!

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

but let me just point out that the "control" that we are talking about is just supression not the type that KB has on his bijuu or else someone might get confused...ME

also, to the clone-sage dilemma, remember what fukasaku said? he told shima that at his level of sage mode user he can only manage to control a bunch of kage bunshins...so, its safe to say that when naruto was fighting pain, he wasnt at the same level when he was fighting the kyuubi, hence, the number of kage bunshins we saw increased... wild guess tho

ps. i would love to see naruto gain full control of the fox and go fox then kage bunshin! wooohhoooo!

I think I understand what you are saying. With EMS Madara was able to fully control the Kyuubi where else Hashirama was just suppressing the bijuus chakras. But the thing is Madara was only able to control one tailed beasts while Hashirama was able to control them all. So if somehow Naruto gains this ability it really would be awesomexd

 

[irkool_budd]

I think I understand what you are saying. With EMS Madara was able to fully control the Kyuubi where else Hashirama was just suppressing the bijuus chakras. But the thing is Madara was only able to control one tailed beasts while Hashirama was able to control them all. So if somehow Naruto gains this ability it really would be awesomexd

i guess naruto can fully control the other bijuus if he wants to..now that he has already conquered his hate, he is a worthy candidate. with the other bijuus i think its a peice of cake...

 

[shadpow]

i guess naruto can fully control the other bijuus if he wants to..now that he has already conquered his hate, he is a worthy candidate. with the other bijuus i think its a peace of cake...

Well... lots of predictions and still 10 days to go... The time is too long to wait for manga....

 

[legendary yellow flash]

nice charpter!!!!

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

Well... lots of predictions and still 10 days to go... The time is too long to wait for manga....

Ya can't believe we will have to wait for another week

 

[Kakashi the Sharingan Warrior]

I think if there going to a time skip they will probably do it within the next few chapters

 

[LorDRaishin]

nop ... Time skip in the next few chaps is impossible ... how do u introduce a time skip when war has been announced?

 

[Kakashi the Sharingan Warrior]

nop ... Time skip in the next few chaps is impossible ... how do u introduce a time skip when war has been announced?

i mean like next 20 chapters or so, that gives them enough time to show the start of the war and then show killerbee starting to train naruto. Im not saying that there going to do a timeskip but if they do i think it will be soon

 

[irkool_budd]

I think if there going to a time skip they will probably do it within the next few chapters

was it announced that a time skip is to done? that would ruin the whole story! i think the time skip was in one piece not naruto but damn that would be a bummer...

 

[Ivellios]

ok, at least we settled the clan thing. Also, Minato is definitely not Tsunade's son. Why else would Tsunade want those two guys back, but not minato? minato can't be too close to her. far cousins, maybe.. but his name is wrong.

Also, your theory goes the other way around. It is explained by naruto being a senju. I was looking for reasons why he'd be a senju. I liked it, but cannot agree. Naruto can inherit the motivation of the senju clan and battle the uchiha. That motivation is not original, "that love is the key to peace". Naruto can believe that, clash with the uchiha, follow what the senju believed, while not being a senju himself. I know it would be nice if he was a senju, but that alone doesn't convince me that he is. I liked your "wall" nonetheless (even if I don't agree)

And I trust that you don't think that your theory is valid, as neither do I. Almost anything is possible to the same extent.

Ok, let's pretend:

George Bush has 2 daughters, one of them is named Jenna. One day she marries a guy by the name Henry Hager and changes her name from Bush to Hager. Let's say she has a son, his last name will be (drumroll) Hager.

Question: Is the child still part of the 'Bush' family?
Clearly according to you, absolutely not because his family name isn't 'Bush.' However if you were to ask George and Laura Bush if the kid is a 'Bush' they'll say... (drumroll again) Y - E - S!
Because everyone in the world knows not every single grand-child always has the family name of the grand-parent.

Likewise if you're mapping someone's genome, getting thier medical history or w/e, you have to look at both the Paternal side, and the Maternal side despite that they only carry the paternal name.

So... somewhere way back in Naruto history some Senju female may have made a kid with a male Namikaze... or it may have taken more jumps than that... however I cannot believe how people cannot understand something so basic as,"Do you have the same family name as your mother's parents?"

Makes one embarresed to be in the same species....

EDIT: Considering it's been 80 years since the founding of Konaha and even longer since So6 has walked.... there's is an extremely large window where that could have happened.

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

i wonder if naruto will be able to turn into the fox yet have control like bee can i think it would be cool but it is either a tad over powered or useless since madara and maybe sasuke can control the nine tails

The case between Naruto and Bee is quite different. Bee tamed the 8-Tails, but Naruto steal/got the Nine Tails' chakra. So, i don't think he could do the Bee + 8-Tails combination. HOwever, Naruto's chakra is gonna be :whoa:

Well when Itachi and Sasuke fought in that secret Uchiha place there was the sign of the Fox so that means the Sharingan has the ability to control the Kyuubi and that's it. If Madara was able to control all other Bijuus it would have been mentioned but when Madara fought Hashirama he only had the Kyuubi and Hashirama had all those other Bijuus I think I also a picture in the manga. So the Sharingan is only capable of controlling the Kyuubi but I think it's not the Sharingan but it's either the MS or EMS. On the other hand we saw Yamato controlling the Kyuubi's chakra because he had some cells of the First which shows that Hashirama was able to control all the Bijuus by suppressing their chakras or whatever method.

Indeed, Madara controlled the kyubi. And yes, i think that he has the potential to control other bijuus as well but not at the same time. Because I don't think its possible to cast genjutsu to more than one person/bijuus at the same time. If he could control the kyubi(the strongest) why can't he controls the other bijuus as well? Its just that he controlled the kyubi which is the strongest.

Well... lots of predictions and still 10 days to go... The time is too long to wait for manga....

Yeah, that's all we can do. In the meantime, its nice to waste time making predictions.