[Predictions] Naruto Manga 499 Discussion and 500 Predictions

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

The apostrophe thing isn't a very good thing to go on, because it could be a translation error. We can't rule out the fact that Naruto could have been reincarnated as the Sage, because so far, we haven't seen any bit of the Sage in Naruto at the present time. Also, Rinne is the Japanese word for reincarnation.

So Rinne stands for reincarnation hmm I don't know we already saw someone with the eyes of the Sage so now we will see someone that is Naruto with the body of the Sage. So does that mean Sasuke doesn't have anything to do with the eyes of the Sage because the eyes were the Rinnegan and Nagato had it.

 

[irkool_budd]

Pain was planning to extract the kyubi and did not know about madara's moon's eye plan and jubi thing. If madara finally told him not to extract the kyubi, it would interfere with Pain's plans of bringing peace (which I believe were true) and would have lost his trust. Then, madara would be left alone with hachibi running free. Secondly, he needed pain alive for his rinnegan. Pain dying was a problem. I'm not sure how easily a sharingan can control a rinnegan either.
So: Madara wanted Pain alive and as an ally => kyubi had to be extracted.
The proof that Pain wanted to extract the kyubi is simple: Nagato/Pain was consistently honest, and definitely looked that way. Whatever he didn't want people to know, he didn't say. I trust pain more than some of the main characters. As for Madara, he'd lie over and over again, but the above does not depend much on what he said.

As for controlling naruto, it was only to bring him to the extraction hideout

There's a limit to the level and number of secrets/misdirections that this manga can hold, and with all these theories, that level's been surpassed by far.

yeah, the reason why they want naruto in the first place was to extract the kyuubi, but i dont think that having naruto transformed into a fox was part of the plan... and i do believe that madara employed pain to do the task coz madara knew naruto can easily break down and coz pain is rinnegan user, he can thereby use all the jutsu in the world just, in case, the fox might come forth... but none in the manga or even the anime have i ever seen that naruto was to be hurt so much as it did with the other bijuu... that is in deed a reason for me to believe that naruto's bijuu is very special to madara... too bad, nagato was so weak tho or else, the kyuubi should be in the hands of the akatsuki now...

Thanks for explaining the confusing stuffs but if that host seal system is passed down to Naruto doesn't that mean Minato had it or something like that then Naruto got it from his dad and Minato was a sealing specialist, just a thought

no prob... that too is possible as we all know nagato is in a different level... even nagato's tech that earned him the nick, yellow flash, involves a seal so its safe to say nagato was a sealing specialist...no argument there...

 

[Ssj4SonNino]

Just touching on some comment on page 17 about Kakashi.
Someone said that he is able to use all 4 elements.
First... They're 5 elements. Lightning, water, earth, wind, and fire.
Second... From what i remember Kakashi has used almost all of them. For he is the "Copy Ninja" and can copy ninjutsu's just by looking at them via his Obito Shringan.
he's used Lightning with.... chidori of course.
he's used Earth with.... His headhunter jutsu when he pulls them underground with the opponents head sticking out & the jutsu he did to try to box in Pain when they fought.
he's used Water when... he fought Zabusa
he's used Fire... many many times. Once in the beginning of Shippuden when Sakura and Naruto were trying to grab the bells from him again.

The only one element I can't recall him doing is Wind.

:|

 

[uhIpooped]

Just touching on some comment on page 17 about Kakashi.
Someone said that he is able to use all 4 elements.
First... They're 5 elements. Lightning, water, earth, wind, and fire.
Second... From what i remember Kakashi has used almost all of them. For he is the "Copy Ninja" and can copy ninjutsu's just by looking at them via his Obito Shringan.
he's used Lightning with.... chidori of course.
he's used Earth with.... His headhunter jutsu when he pulls them underground with the opponents head sticking out & the jutsu he did to try to box in Pain when they fought.
he's used Water when... he fought Zabusa
he's used Fire... many many times. Once in the beginning of Shippuden when Sakura and Naruto were trying to grab the bells from him again.

The only one element I can't recall him doing is Wind.

:|

I could be wrong, but didnt Kakashi use wind when training Naruto with elements? showed him how to cut the leaf... looking for the chapter now...

 

[Holy Cowboy]

Just touching on some comment on page 17 about Kakashi.
Someone said that he is able to use all 4 elements.
First... They're 5 elements. Lightning, water, earth, wind, and fire.
Second... From what i remember Kakashi has used almost all of them. For he is the "Copy Ninja" and can copy ninjutsu's just by looking at them via his Obito Shringan.
he's used Lightning with.... chidori of course.
he's used Earth with.... His headhunter jutsu when he pulls them underground with the opponents head sticking out & the jutsu he did to try to box in Pain when they fought.
he's used Water when... he fought Zabusa
he's used Fire... many many times. Once in the beginning of Shippuden when Sakura and Naruto were trying to grab the bells from him again.

The only one element I can't recall him doing is Wind.

:|

Kakashi used fire in anime only. Manga-wise, Kakashi can't use fire ( yet ).


@uhIpooped:

No. He used elemental paper stuff while trying to 'train him' into adding element to rasengan. Then they did a bit of experiment with kakashi's rasengan and naruto wind rasengan.

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

I could be wrong, but didnt Kakashi use wind when training Naruto with elements? showed him how to cut the leaf... looking for the chapter now...

Nope Kakashi never used wind element he told Naruto to use his chakra on the leaf so that it will cut but he didn't do it himself

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

yeah, the reason why they want naruto in the first place was to extract the kyuubi, but i dont think that having naruto transformed into a fox was part of the plan... and i do believe that madara employed pain to do the task coz madara knew naruto can easily break down and coz pain is rinnegan user, he can thereby use all the jutsu in the world just, in case, the fox might come forth... but none in the manga or even the anime have i ever seen that naruto was to be hurt so much as it did with the other bijuu... that is in deed a reason for me to believe that naruto's bijuu is very special to madara... too bad, nagato was so weak tho or else, the kyuubi should be in the hands of the akatsuki now...




no prob... that too is possible as we all know nagato is in a different level... even nagato's tech that earned him the nick, yellow flash, involves a seal so its safe to say nagato was a sealing specialist...no argument there...

Dude don't you mean Minato not Nagato

 

[-Tauburn-]

i loved it but i dont realy know what could happen next chapter

 

[uzamaki2223]

yeah, the reason why they want naruto in the first place was to extract the kyuubi, but i dont think that having naruto transformed into a fox was part of the plan... and i do believe that madara employed pain to do the task coz madara knew naruto can easily break down and coz pain is rinnegan user, he can thereby use all the jutsu in the world just, in case, the fox might come forth... but none in the manga or even the anime have i ever seen that naruto was to be hurt so much as it did with the other bijuu... that is in deed a reason for me to believe that naruto's bijuu is very special to madara... too bad, nagato was so weak tho or else, the kyuubi should be in the hands of the akatsuki now...




no prob... that too is possible as we all know nagato is in a different level... even nagato's tech that earned him the nick, yellow flash, involves a seal so its safe to say nagato was a sealing specialist...no argument there...

i think that u mean Minato not nagato lol

Just touching on some comment on page 17 about Kakashi.
Someone said that he is able to use all 4 elements.
First... They're 5 elements. Lightning, water, earth, wind, and fire.
Second... From what i remember Kakashi has used almost all of them. For he is the "Copy Ninja" and can copy ninjutsu's just by looking at them via his Obito Shringan.
he's used Lightning with.... chidori of course.
he's used Earth with.... His headhunter jutsu when he pulls them underground with the opponents head sticking out & the jutsu he did to try to box in Pain when they fought.
he's used Water when... he fought Zabusa
he's used Fire... many many times. Once in the beginning of Shippuden when Sakura and Naruto were trying to grab the bells from him again.

The only one element I can't recall him doing is Wind.

:|

he also used water and earth against naruto and sakura at the begining of shippuden.

i agree i dont think that i have ever seen him use wind type. but i dont think that i have seen anyone really use wind type outside of naruto, danzo,and a couple ANBU black ops but even then it wasn't til naruto had already shown his affinity that we began to c more nin with wind jutsu.

 

[narutosage94]

Awesome manga episode!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have few questions tho
when the fox says that this is the sage of 6 paths was he talking about naruto, is he the sage of 6 paths???? and if he was could it be possible that nagato somehow gave it to naruto before he died?????

 

[Maru]

Awesome manga episode!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have few questions tho
when the fox says that this is the sage of 6 paths was he talking about naruto, is he the sage of 6 paths???? and if he was could it be possible that nagato somehow gave it to naruto before he died?????

Most of your questions have already been answered in this thread. I don't remember Nagato giving him anything aside from peoples lives back.

 

[zapp42823]

now that naruto has this much of chakra, kishi must teach him a new jutsu and give him a sword with something in it... in that he will become a complete or perfect ninja, because even the rikudo sennin who is the most powerful ninja have a sword too (a katana on his back)...

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

now that naruto has this much of chakra, kishi must teach him a new jutsu and give him a sword with something in it... in that he will become a complete or perfect ninja, because even the rikudo sennin who is the most powerful ninja have a sword too (a katana on his back)...

Ya but it has to be something original its just that we haven't seen Naruto with a sword. It will be interesting to see him using a sword

 

[culinaryg]

just thought of something

nagato vs naruto in papertree

naruto turn kyuubi + sage eyes = i thinkk kishi realized in was a bad idea(eyes) i didnt like it it didnt match

wat was naruto then? he could control the kyuubi normally with his anger

now that naurot controls kyuubi wats naruto goin to do wen someone makes him really emotional? or is it over for naruto losing his mind?

 

[culinaryg]

minato flahstep = minato sealing himself into watever item he put the seal on (ex. kunai) then unsealing to reach that spot

death reaper seal = ultimate version of transportation with only 1 way in

like sasukke summoning manda then back like a super fastversion just to tele from spot to spot

tobis version lets him go anywhere minatos just lets him go to seals by reversesummons
dats y aloe vera said noone beat his tele so far\

just pointing points out on how naruto might practing reversesummons/sseals

 

[irkool_budd]

i think that u mean Minato not nagato lol

Dude don't you mean Minato not Nagato

hahaha...silly mistake! wats up wd me?

now that naurot controls kyuubi wats naruto goin to do wen someone makes him really emotional? or is it over for naruto losing his mind?

i think now that naruto has this answers with him and that he has already have this knowledge of his parents, it would be rare for us to see naruto become so emotional, jst a thought tho but anything is possible...

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

minato flahstep = minato sealing himself into watever item he put the seal on (ex. kunai) then unsealing to reach that spot

death reaper seal = ultimate version of transportation with only 1 way in

like sasukke summoning manda then back like a super fastversion just to tele from spot to spot

tobis version lets him go anywhere minatos just lets him go to seals by reversesummons
dats y aloe vera said noone beat his tele so far\

just pointing points out on how naruto might practing reversesummons/sseals

Naruto should learn his dad's space time tech and hopefully upgrade it to match it against Madara's just like he did with Rasengan

 

[baah]

Just touching on some comment on page 17 about Kakashi.
Someone said that he is able to use all 4 elements.
First... They're 5 elements. Lightning, water, earth, wind, and fire.
Second... From what i remember Kakashi has used almost all of them. For he is the "Copy Ninja" and can copy ninjutsu's just by looking at them via his Obito Shringan.
he's used Lightning with.... chidori of course.
he's used Earth with.... His headhunter jutsu when he pulls them underground with the opponents head sticking out & the jutsu he did to try to box in Pain when they fought.
he's used Water when... he fought Zabusa
he's used Fire... many many times. Once in the beginning of Shippuden when Sakura and Naruto were trying to grab the bells from him again.

The only one element I can't recall him doing is Wind.

:|

Lightning is kakashi's affinity afterall and lightning is weak against wind...so he can't do wind or extremely difficult for him...i guess.....
Plus the manga suggests that every ninja can do any nature manipulation...its just that they can't do a high level jutsu with it if it is not their affinity....

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

The apostrophe thing isn't a very good thing to go on, because it could be a translation error. We can't rule out the fact that Naruto could have been reincarnated as the Sage, because so far, we haven't seen any bit of the Sage in Naruto at the present time. Also, Rinne is the Japanese word for reincarnation.

Could be, eh? That's not good enough. What we can do is keep on sticking whatever things we saw in the manga. I don't think its a translation error. Why the apostrophe is put just after PATHS. Thats intention and not an error. Or else there are many places to insert the apostrophe.

EMS is an upgrade to MS. He can do amaterasu, or what genius uchiha whould he be?
But amaterasu burns slowly and can be sealed away, just like Jiraiya did. ANBU could deal with it on buildings



It's not a translation error. you can

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. there's clearly a "no" in the 4th picture, second line. It's the sage of six paths'.
Even a question mark

Well said. :y

 

[Scorps]

Lightning is kakashi's affinity afterall and lightning is weak against wind...so he can't do wind or extremely difficult for him...i guess.....
Plus the manga suggests that every ninja can do any nature manipulation...its just that they can't do a high level jutsu with it if it is not their affinity....

According to NarutoWiki and all sources I could find, Kakashi only uses Fire Release Justus on the anime. As for wind, no one has seen him use wind.

As for the sharingan and the elements I think people are a little confused.
Having the Sharingan doesn't make you able to use other elements. The Sharingan alows the user to instantly remember and learn the seals required and the flow of chakra needed to perform the jutsu. However, it doesn't give the user the ability to use or execute the jutsu. Like Kakashi once said to Sasuke, the sharingan may give it's user the ability to (for example) see an incoming attack, but you still have to train the body to be able to have the speed to dodge it. So, even if the Sharingan gives kakashi the ability to memorize and learn the hand seals and chakra flows for a technique, if his chakra hadn't the ability to change it's nature, he wouldn't be able to use the jutsu. So yes, he has 3 chakra natures (4 in the anime) and has the ability to perform yin and yang transformations of chakra (genjutsu for example).