[Predictions] Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

[Kuroi Honoo]

Ok what type of person I am, I dont belly rub people who need to grow up or are making bad choses this is what makes me different from the common fanboy. I show hard love if I have kids I be the same way not slurring them those xdxd. Naruto needs to grow a pair then he will get my respect again because I have nearly completely lost it for him completely.
If your football team manager ****ing up (Sir Alex) then I think you have the right to get angry to complain about the manager just like Naruto not growing up I have the right to get angry. xd

Well, that is fine, it is your prerogitive.

If you take a good look at the chapter, you'll see that te moment Danzou tries to slice Sasuke's head off, Madara makes a move, probly to save sasuke.

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Dude, what I meant was that people go on and on saying how Madara is going to save Sasuke's arse everytime he gets into a fight but this time around, he saved himself via Susano'o. I obviously knew that Madara began to teleport to save him and is the reason WHY I stated that in the first place. If you had read my post more properly than you wouldn't have misinterpreted what I said from the get go.​

 

[hockeygrrlmuse]

Izanagi is real :O

I was right itachi is still dead
Each sharingan is like a life and he releases each sharingan instead of dying

Also oro working with danzo i guessed as much never mind he has the first hokages dna :O

And if madara is right and he can control the fox maybe he made the fox attack the village, blamed the uchiha to get rid of them and obtain there power.

Sasukes new susanoo form is awsome

Okay, I was looking at danzo's sharingans and then I reread what Karin (the character) said. She thinks it has something to do with a jutsu. they aren't like lives because after the eyes close, sometimes they open again. So if they represented lives, he'd be regenerating his lives and putting them in the sharingans. That's just a waste of time and concentration. Besides, if he was able to use them as lives, why did he have to deflect Sasuke's first arrow with his arm? And the next arrow didn't have an effect because Danzo had regained his "form".

It's gotta be either a curse or a jutsu. Madara recognized it as forbidden and even gave its name, so there must have been a previous use of it. And since Karin thinks it's related to the jutsus he's using, it makes sense that it could be another way to create jutsus other than using hand signals. What if it's a way to create jutsus without using the hand signs? That would be handy because Danzo could create multiple jutsus at one time and make them more powerful.

I wish I could have Karin's eyes cuz I really want to see the freaky chakra in that arm.

Another question. A few dozen chapters ago, way back, the sharingan was this really awesome power. Why doesn't Danzo use them like regular sharingans? It's not as awesome as Sasuke's new Susanoo sasuke:<3xd) but it could come in handy against an ordinary opponent.

I am also wondering how the hell he collected all those sharingans in the first place.

Last, far-fetched theory: pretty soon after danzo appeared, i noticed he looks like Madara. And now Danzo has the first's DNA? Madara's talent is to manipulate the time-space continuum (I barely understand that) so he might have been able to take some of the first's DNA and become Danzo. That could also be a reason why he didn't join in the fight. He's already in it.
I know that's hard to believe.

Sorry for the super-long post; it's my first time hanging out on this forum and I have a lot of crazy theories.

 

[hockeygrrlmuse]

My reply to Twistedlink's posts in the other thread.. (the thread got closed in my face loll):

I think Sasuke was trying a different tactic?
I get what you're trying to say, but it's not the same.

- A genjutsu doing Amaterasu doesnt mean it's actually doing it, it's an illusion
- Itachi seemed to favour using Tsukiyomi over Amaterasu, so perhaps Tsukiyomi itself uses up considerably less chakra than Amaterasu?
- And then there's the issue of Amaterasu taking a while to 'charge' up, for lack of a better term
- And has nobody else noticed that Amaterasu seems to slow down the movement of the eye casting it? It's like the technique drags your line of vision with it, rather than you just straight up burning what you see..

Sasuke was using it as a diversion while he snuck up on Danzo. And if it wasnt for the seal, it probably would've worked.

But Danzo was able to predict that Sasuke was behind him. He actually knew it was an illusion the instant it started fading, and by that time it was too late for Sasuke.
What do you mean Tsukiyomi? [I apologize if any are offended by my ignorance. I'm trying to keep up.] I know he likes Susanoo better now that he figured it out, but I don't think he favors anything because it uses less chakras. He is reckless with pacing himself. Danzo got that right--he kind of just throws whatever he's got at his enemy, hoping his hatred will make him more powerful rather than planning out his attack. It might work against some people, but Madara wasn't even surprised that Sasuke broke the seal. So against cleverer enemies, they'll save their strength and he'll just run out of chakra. And since Susanoo is pretty much his best weapon at the moment, he'll definietly try to use that as much as possible so the sheer power of it will pwn his enemies.

I must add this: Madara knows about Izanagi, so it must be a technique that showed up somewhere in the past. Then couldn't Madara figure out how to use it? He doesn't really care about the "forbidden" part as is proven by his evil nature. So it must not be that important if Madara doesn't want it. I mean, he's an Uchiha, so he can control sharingans, so it would be easier for him to use that power than Danzo.

 

[hockeygrrlmuse]

Nice to see so many new members on the forum btw Its like the "creating a new accont rate" went up with 75% after the latest chapter

Its actually cool to have someone else commenting than just(mostly) me and Pervy Sage.
Must say that i miss Riuka Hime though (Being sarcastic for the first time).

Thank you! You are definitely right about the last chapter thing, as soon as I finished I went on google and typed in "Izanagi theories" and this showed up!

To those unlike this person, who think new members with little or no comprehension should shove their comments up their *sses:
You are entitled to your opinion, I guess. But sometimes beginners get really random ideas from nowhere, and there is actually something to them. I have been posting all these little theories that pop into my head from nowhere and just seeing where they go. And some of them are actually lucid. So, !!!

I do apologize if I just ruined the thread...I don't know how forums work, I just joined this one to share my Izanagi and Madara theories, cuz my friends aren't as into Naruto and are therefore NOT INTERESTED. losers.

What are the chakras in Danzo's arm like? Karin didn't get a good look. I'm wondering if someone else (Madara, just a hypothetical example) is controlling the arm, or at least regenerating it. No way could Danzo have enough power to be able to grow back an entire arm of sharingans.

Btw, congrats to Sasuke for having the awesome idea of bringing Itachi back to distract Danzo! I figured it was an illusion cuz illusions have been showing up more often recently, but it threw most of the ninjas off! Way cool Sasuke! :sasuke:<3

 

[hockeygrrlmuse]

I dont think MS is something that can merely be copied, i think theres a way to unlock MS through either hard work or emotions and most of the uchiha miss understood the bit about killing someone close to them, let me explain...

The uchiha's believe you have to kill you best friend or someone to gain the MS but i dont think killing them is the bit that unlocks it, i think its the emotional tear inside them which does it, and people like itachi just thought of it in the wrong way...

So maybe kakashi couldnt save a comrade whos close to him and in anger he unlocked it to beat an opponent, and this is why he has it...

My reasons for saying this is that everytime sasuke gets angry he gets a new MS ability...

As for danzo i dont think he would have the power to control people without having the MS, ive never seen it done, if ive missed it please show me

This makes sense, but I guess you could say Kakashi killed his friend because it was his decision that led to his friend's death, so the blame is given to him. Technically. But it does make more sense that emotions would unlock it, also this is good because root was all about being emotionless, so no way could Danzo ever develop the sharingans on his arm.

 

[Dabz]

its funny how everyone has made danzou the villian now and hoping madara and sasuke win when infact they are the ones who attacked him, while he was just minding his own business trying to return to his village haha.
danzou is not a villian, and i dont believe he was behind the kyuubi attack, thats not even a question IMO.

i also believe that the inzangi technique is not a MS tech but just a normal sharingan technique. i think it is forbidden because it would most likely cause the user to die or lose an eye. because of this no uchiha would take thatg option unless it was vital. because of this danzou collected many eyes allowing him to use the jutsu without the effects that deemed it forbidden in the first place.

let me know what you think please?xd

 

[hockeygrrlmuse]

Why am I the only one commenting? I hope I didn't drive others away. *guilt trip*
New theory: Danzo formed Root so he could have his own brainwashed army, and since they have no emotions they won't care about destroying/taking over Konoha. So danzo could be planning to attack the village, which means it'll be interesting to see what side Sai takes. On one hand, they're his first friends ever (except the dude in the book). But someone...can't find it, darnit... brought up the idea that Danzo can control Root members. Scary thought.

 

[hockeygrrlmuse]

its funny how everyone has made danzou the villian now and hoping madara and sasuke win when infact they are the ones who attacked him, while he was just minding his own business trying to return to his village haha.
danzou is not a villian, and i dont believe he was behind the kyuubi attack, thats not even a question IMO.

i also believe that the inzangi technique is not a MS tech but just a normal sharingan technique. i think it is forbidden because it would most likely cause the user to die or lose an eye. because of this no uchiha would take thatg option unless it was vital. because of this danzou collected many eyes allowing him to use the jutsu without the effects that deemed it forbidden in the first place.

let me know what you think please?xd

No offense, but I totally think Danzo is a villain. Ever since he showed up, he's been manipulating people. And he had to hunt down the bodies of Uchihas to get all those sharingans.
Not to mention Root is really shady. Why would a ninja need to have no emotions? Naruto really loves a lot of people, and it's kept him on the "good" side. Itachi loved his brother and so he spared his life. Harry Potter decided to fulfill the prophecy (gahh, I'madork ). Love is a good emotion to have. On the other hand, having no emotions at all would let you kill pretty much anybody without caring. That's handy for someone who needs an army.

As for the second part, I agree. otherwise Danzo couldn't use the tech. Or maybe the multiple eyes are a part of the jutsu itself, because that would make it much more rare and powerful when it does appear. It might also be forbidden because Danzo, who isn't an Uchiha, can use it--so the Uchihas would be really mad about someone else taking their secret techs and turning it into something huge like that.
Or it could be forbidden because it causes a huge amount of damage or something, because that wouldn't affect Madara. He could easily grab Sasuke and disappear before the jutsu was complete. But that's not as likely, because Danzo is smarter than to just use something about as subtle as an atom bomb.

ah, i love this forum. I can build on other people's ideas and not just my own little insane world. (Also, the smilies are great :sakura::sasuke::naruto:)

 

[Dabz]

No offense, but I totally think Danzo is a villain. Ever since he showed up, he's been manipulating people. And he had to hunt down the bodies of Uchihas to get all those sharingans.
Not to mention Root is really shady. Why would a ninja need to have no emotions? Naruto really loves a lot of people, and it's kept him on the "good" side. Itachi loved his brother and so he spared his life. Harry Potter decided to fulfill the prophecy (gahh, I'madork ). Love is a good emotion to have. On the other hand, having no emotions at all would let you kill pretty much anybody without caring. That's handy for someone who needs an army.

As for the second part, I agree. otherwise Danzo couldn't use the tech. Or maybe the multiple eyes are a part of the jutsu itself, because that would make it much more rare and powerful when it does appear. It might also be forbidden because Danzo, who isn't an Uchiha, can use it--so the Uchihas would be really mad about someone else taking their secret techs and turning it into something huge like that.
Or it could be forbidden because it causes a huge amount of damage or something, because that wouldn't affect Madara. He could easily grab Sasuke and disappear before the jutsu was complete. But that's not as likely, because Danzo is smarter than to just use something about as subtle as an atom bomb.

ah, i love this forum. I can build on other people's ideas and not just my own little insane world. (Also, the smilies are great :sakura::sasuke::naruto:)

i agree with u, but having said that i still think that danzou is still doing for what he believes is for the good of the village he tactics may be inproper but his reasons are pure lol.

and about inzangi i believe its a sort of trade similar to the death reaper seal jutsu where the user trades its soul, i think the uchiha user trades maybe their eyes and thats why danzou has collected so many so he can use it without the negative effects of losing an eye.xd

 

[francois brown]

well i really have nothing to say about this chapter i give it a 3/5.:naruto:

 

[JDG]

Man is Danzo bad ass, speaking of which, how many more sharigan justus are they gonna pull out of their?

 

[db3st]

well for me sasuke was pretty impressive. because even madara was impress. as you can see on page 8, madara states that he didnt think sasuke was going to break out of the curse. which he did out of pure will from his hatred for danzou and then he summoned susanoo. i rate that 8/10...and of what i noticed sasuke is exhausted from breaking out of the curse not from chakra depletion..if it was from chakra depletion than instead of sakura saying "these chakras its like he's not even sasuke anymore.." she would've said sasuke's running low on chakra or something of that sort. and even if sasuke did run low on chakra he still has karin. one bite equals battery fully recharged...but i would have to say that danzou is a miniture version of so6p. he has sharingan plus partial senju body. the only reason why i say that is because madara said something like ' thats a mokuton, no wonder why he could control so much sharingans for not being a uchiha...so basically he has some what of a senju body and the sharingan eyes..so that equals miniture version of so6p..so if it was naruto fighting danzou i wonder how naruto would do...???

 

[db3st]

i think in the end sasuke is going to win by some sort of amaterasu..because as u recall he was always a good fire user. he still has his enton element that he hasnt used yet. so maybe that is his true trump card. becuz imo sasuke's true mangekyou abilities are to control fire i.e. amaterasu. he can make it and bend it to his will. so maybe in the end im guessing he's going to end it wid some sort of enton move..

 

[db3st]

also i think its safe to say that danzou has mangekyou sharingan. because there is no way a regular sharingan can produce izanagi..if you need ms to use amaterasu, tukusomi, and susanoo..then im pretty sure u need ms to use izanagi..maybe his ms is on his forehead...like a third eye type of thing...and danzou now has three elements...actually four..because wood equals 2..and wood is one of its own so danzou basically has wind, earth, water, and wood..wow i wouldn't be surprised if he used fire and lightning since he has so much sharingans...im pretty sure he has fire tho since all uchihas naturally have fire affinities..

 

[Whiteknight]

Okay, I was looking at danzo's sharingans and then I reread what Karin (the character) said. She thinks it has something to do with a jutsu. they aren't like lives because after the eyes close, sometimes they open again. So if they represented lives, he'd be regenerating his lives and putting them in the sharingans. That's just a waste of time and concentration. Besides, if he was able to use them as lives, why did he have to deflect Sasuke's first arrow with his arm? And the next arrow didn't have an effect because Danzo had regained his "form".

I said this exact thing before, so I'm 100% in agreement. I don't think the eyes represent his "lives" inside his jutsu. Karin said that the eyes closing was important, but nobody said they were some kind of limiting factor.

Plus, Danzou doesn't seem at all worried that they keep closing. He seems more worried about his chakra reserves. That's why he released the jutsu early and almost got hit by Susanoo's arrow.

Let's look back at the facts of Danzou's jutsu:
1) There are no obvious changes with his arm unsealed, and Karin's careful observation of Sasuke suggests that he is not under genjutsu (or, under genjutsu of such high level that she cannot detect it)
2) He uses an unknown hand sign that has no obvious effect
3) When he does his hand sign there is a very small fluctuation in his chakra that only Karin could notice, barely.
4) When he does his hand sign he is apparently immortal. He can be killed but a new version of him appears unharmed.
5) When he releases the jutsu he appears to be unprotected, and appears able to be genuinely hurt or killed.
6) He does not appear worried that the eyes on his arm close, and does not even acknowledge it
7) This ability uses non-MS sharingans, but even "gifted" Uchiha like Madara and Itachi don't seem to have been aware of it. At least Itachi never mentioned it before he died. This suggests it's an emergent property of having multiple sharingan. Maybe it only occurs in multiple transplant recipients, maybe it could occur if teams of Uchiha ninja work together in a multi-part jutsu.

These are all very interesting facts, but don't quite paint a clear picture of what the Jutsu is or what it does.

 

[Whiteknight]

also i think its safe to say that danzou has mangekyou sharingan. because there is no way a regular sharingan can produce izanagi..if you need ms to use amaterasu, tukusomi, and susanoo..then im pretty sure u need ms to use izanagi..maybe his ms is on his forehead...like a third eye type of thing...and danzou now has three elements...actually four..because wood equals 2..and wood is one of its own so danzou basically has wind, earth, water, and wood..wow i wouldn't be surprised if he used fire and lightning since he has so much sharingans...im pretty sure he has fire tho since all uchihas naturally have fire affinities..

If normal MS eyes could produce Izanagi, Itachi and Madara would have found it by now. Madara has had perfect MS for over 100 years, and Itachi was a genius. I think that Izanagi has more to do with the number of sharingan that he has. Maybe Izanagi requires more than two sharingan to perform.

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

Firstly there are ways to beat all of the sharingan, plus uchihas dont have much stamina in my eyes and to use there best techniques they kind of have to suffer, and senju are awsome and dont share the name senju like azuma
Plus you have to remember man clans joins the village after the formation like the hyuuga clan
I dont think the ones you mentioned are the only senjus, there are also kohnahamru but maybe the senju clan is dying out just like the uchiha and all the senju clan will die and it will end with naruto and sasuke fighting as the last of there clans

well the uchiha were all murdered expect for a few but wat abt the senju?

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

concerning your point about itachi vs kisame, its not that said above contradicts one another, its just that kisame has more chakra and itachi has better skills. undoubtedly, kisame had huge amounts of chakra and in all likelyhood much greater than itachi's. but chakra alone is not sufficient to win a battle.

about your point on senju vs uchiha, senju probably had some tech that prevents the user from being caught in a genjutsu. take out genjutsu, what are the uchiha left with? mostly fighting skills and copy cat skills. very few actually achieved the mangekyo; so that takes out susanoo, amaterasu, tsukiyomi.

i agree with most of your assumptions concerning who's senju and whatnot. and i also wonder where the hell are the other senjus? you'd figure a city run by senju is filled by senju...

about the 478 release, i think danzou's eyes acts as lives; closed ones seem to revive him and do not reopen. madara says he sees 10 eyes on his arm, but he didnt account for the one under his eyepatch and possibly scattered on his body. maybe has a sharingan penis? hypno-sperm no-jutsu causes the infant to be born as a slave controlled telepathically or have a curse placed upon them, like sai and any other root member. all children bore from danzou himself.

danzou's definitely a badass seeing as he finally caught madara's attention. what ive been asking myself lately is why did he bother to tell the kages his plans? even if the plan was already set in motion as he claims it was, its really not prudent to reveal your said intentions, regardless of how strong you are. which leads me to my next point: if madara's only a form of his former self, i.e. not as strong as before, why give out your plan despite such a handicap??

my conclusion is that he merely told them a false story to get them in a mode of panic, probably to cause internal affairs. if thats the case, then mugen tsukiyomi was a joke? or maybe variation of izanagi, izanami?

dude u got my point only having huge amounts of chakras is not alone to defeat a uchiha that means there is a technique that the senjus used ( hashirama himself used to beat madara) and later most probably it will be learned by Naruto

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

Now people are wondering who is the MAIN VILLAIN. well at first we thought it was Madara but Danzou's power and secrets are really interesting that even Madara was surprised.

Anyone ever though how can someone who can kill his parents and not kill his brother even though i think Itachi thought of Sasuke as his own son or something like that, but it just doesn't make sense. Well now we know Danzou has Uchiha Sisui's eye which can control people without letting them know about it. So heres my theory:

If Danzou somehow got Sisui's eyes before the Uchiha massacare then he may have used those eyes to control Itachi(back then he didn't had the MS) and ordered him to kill all those who are involved in the Coup de' tat so he killed everyone with the help of Madara however he knew Sasuke knew nothing about it. So he did'nt kill him, and after he got the MS even after that he thought that he killed the Uchiha on his own will but thats not the case. Its just a theory but it may also be true.

 

[Naruto_Lee]

Izanagi is real :O

I was right itachi is still dead
Each sharingan is like a life and he releases each sharingan instead of dying

Also oro working with danzo i guessed as much never mind he has the first hokages dna :O

And if madara is right and he can control the fox maybe he made the fox attack the village, blamed the uchiha to get rid of them and obtain there power.

Sasukes new susanoo form is awsome

guys remember ,madara told sasuke that he didnt made the kyuubi to attack the village.....it might be true...........it may have been danzou who made it to attack konoha...........think about it