[Predictions] Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

[Naruto_Lee]

Listen, Mangekyou is that way, you all say that it is a power up but that isn't the users fault as that is how the Mangekyou works. You should all be complaining about Itachi/Kakashi/Madara and any other Uchiha who maybe were able to evolve their eye having the same power ups as well then because that is the Mangekyou.​

oh oh c'mon you are a supporter of sasuke ah???????then answer this question........did sasuke beat anyone in shippuden except deidara...........in the fight with orochimaru ,sasuke himself mentioned that he was weak........so sasuke got lucky that time.......then he had fought with kb,itachi,raikage and mizukage and now is danzo.............you are saying that ms is the one which evolves to every sharingan users ...............i agree with that but did sasuke got ms wih his own efforts????????????????????i dont think so itachi was already ill and even at he end he could have plucked sasuke's eyes instead he just let him live............so to conclude sasuke is one of the dumbest.....................​

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

well when Itachi and Sasuke were fighting Sasuke broke through Itachi's tsukyuomi (even though now we know Itachi never had the intention of killing him) Zetsu told that the sharingan and the MS are only weapons. so a very good Sharingan user can defeat a MS user. But i dont see that way. Danzou has 11 sharingan and he already got killed 3 or 4 times . But a guy like Dazou who is a elder of the village must not be killed so easily this many times. So even Sisui's eye is not a match for a MS.

i dont think that Danzou has the MS if he had he wouldn't have said "This is Susanoo, I presume" also the fact that he would have used MS if he had so my guess is Danzou is using Izanagi without having MS. well i dont know if its possible or not

The most likely explation of Madara's survival in the fight against the First Hokage till now is that he might have used Izanagi but it looks like he never used it bcoz at the last page of the chapter he says "It is the only explation..... danzou is using Izanagi" so it seems he only heard about it. So how come Madara survived till now. Well may be he used jutsu which saved his life but it takes a lot time for the user to get back to his full potential as Madara said the the kage summit "I'm only a mere shell of my former self" so the technique he used is a very risky one wherelse danzou's one was also suppose to be risky but he had the 1st Hokage's cell implanted in him so thats why he has the chakra and the energy needed to use the Izanagi over and over again. So in that sense Danzou is smarter than Madara.

 

[Naruto_Lee]

He will come back later on, but it will not be with Izanagi

there is no possibility for itachi to come back ...........he is dead already

 

[Naruto_Lee]

guys this chapter was good ...................but i have a doubt.....in pg 14 in madara's face is there some cracks or is they just a drawing mistake............i might be funny but i want it to be clear

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

Many people are saying Itachi will come back it may happen but i'm sure Orochimaru will come back. Oro's cell already took one third of Kabuto's body so it means it is only a matter of time before he comes back. That means he will come back even stronger but whose side will he chose. I mean if Madara has Sasuke then he will never join Sasuke and Konoha will never allow Oro to join them. So my guess is Danzou will take Oro's help once again bcoz its sure Danzou will survive against Sasuke then he has to answer the Konoha Jounins and others. He will not be the Hokage but with Oro's help he will try to help the Ninja Alliance so that later on he can be accepted as the Hokage.But i have a feeling that Danzou has EVEN BIGGER plans up his sleeve that will shock us

want to see is Sasuke vs Oro when Oro is at his best, i know Sasuke will always be the fovourite but Oro is a genius so he will always have a plan to counter the sharingan and the MS, at least i hope that.

 

[BigBen]

want to see is Sasuke vs Oro when Oro is at his best, i know Sasuke will always be the fovourite but Oro is a genius so he will always have a plan to counter the sharingan and the MS, at least i hope that.

I don't think Oro stands a chance ... even at his best he was nothing against a sharingan granted it was itachi who was a beast lol but i think for the FGP (friggen gay plot) sasuke will always pwn oro lol plus itachi traped him with the sword and torched the snake so i think oro is dead and kabutoro i really would love to see what happens there maybe i will live long enough to see since it'll be like 3 months to get off this sasuke fighting boner hahaha kishi is going a little too overboard with it it's turning into bleach...
Let me know what ya think

 

[BigBen]

oh oh c'mon you are a supporter of sasuke ah???????then answer this question........did sasuke beat anyone in shippuden except deidara...........in the fight with orochimaru ,sasuke himself mentioned that he was weak........so sasuke got lucky that time.......then he had fought with kb,itachi,raikage and mizukage and now is danzo.............you are saying that ms is the one which evolves to every sharingan users ...............i agree with that but did sasuke got ms wih his own efforts????????????????????i dont think so itachi was already ill and even at he end he could have plucked sasuke's eyes instead he just let him live............so to conclude sasuke is one of the dumbest.....................

Nah man what really pisses me off about the whole series is the amount of Techs and sudden gifts thats sasuke gets and Naruto who is the star of the show works his ass off and only has a rasengan finisher lol he needs a secondary element or the F!@ken FTG! it's so gay to see it he has 2 jutsu and then has to pop the big guns where as sasuke has a ton even without his MS fire style and lighting it's retarded but i'm sure everyone is pissed off about it

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

I don't think Oro stands a chance ... even at his best he was nothing against a sharingan granted it was itachi who was a beast lol but i think for the FGP (friggen gay plot) sasuke will always pwn oro lol plus itachi traped him with the sword and torched the snake so i think oro is dead and kabutoro i really would love to see what happens there maybe i will live long enough to see since it'll be like 3 months to get off this sasuke fighting boner hahaha kishi is going a little too overboard with it it's turning into bleach...
Let me know what ya think

You are right but the point is Oro never knew about the MS, so at that time he was completely no match just like Kakashi, although he knew about it but after Itachi showed him the MS he figured out ways of avoiding it the next time they fought. So thats why i'm exicited if Oro can come up with a way of avoiding the MS it really will be SUBARASHI(Oro style of saying awesome)

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

Now that we are seeing Danzou's real powers although i think he has still more jutsus up his sleeve is it right to say when Pain attacked Konoha if Danzou had fight against Pain he would have won? I know its hard to say but i want to others opinion about this

 

[BigBen]

OK
I have a logical assumption as to what is going on !
according to mythology and such and from what i have seen i have a theory !
Izanagi returns people to life after near death (or certian death situations) BUT ! the cost of using this technique is losing a sharingan eye(making it forbidden for uchiha's to maintain the power of the clan) ... After seeing this i can safely say this is how Madara is alive after the fight with the frist and also explains Why he only has one eye ! and why he is a former shell of himself as losing that one eye he no longer has EMS ... this also explains how he was able to recognize the jutsu when danzo was using it
Really if you think about it this puts all the peices back together and everything fits nicely and i think this is the secret behind it so this means danzo ordered the hit on uchiha's just so he could stock up on eye's to get his psuedo-immortality given the coup de tett (sorry about spelling not french lol) as a cover up for his true plans and now wants naruto to assume absolute control over the entire ninja world LOL it makes sense scary but it does make sense
Let me know if this helps anyone

 

[BigBen]

Now that we are seeing Danzou's real powers although i think he has still more jutsus up his sleeve is it right to say when Pain attacked Konoha if Danzou had fight against Pain he would have won? I know its hard to say but i want to others opinion about this

Given my theory about izanagi ... No danzo wouldn't have won if it wasn't for plot Naruto shouldn't have won pein was a machine and Naruto had to beat him however pein is the best and immortal bro noone should have been able to beat him Naruto only did due to plot lol but in all honesty he was a powerhouse
think about it infinate summons the rinnegan who could use all 5 elements chakra sucking ability 360 vision not to mention the repel and attract force from God realm pein was the best villian/ninja i have ever seen and should have been unbeatable but of corse kishi and his plot no jutsu is always stronger then reality hahaha

 

[Michael92]

Why am I the only one commenting? I hope I didn't drive others away. *guilt trip*
New theory: Danzo formed Root so he could have his own brainwashed army, and since they have no emotions they won't care about destroying/taking over Konoha. So danzo could be planning to attack the village, which means it'll be interesting to see what side Sai takes. On one hand, they're his first friends ever (except the dude in the book). But someone...can't find it, darnit... brought up the idea that Danzo can control Root members. Scary thought.

Haha, your not alone Sometimes that happends to me to. I didn`t even notice when i was reading through, that those 5 comments in row was all yours It may have to do with the fact that we live at different parts in the world and what time it is at the day/night.

But it was actually me who brought that theory fort

But who knows, why would Danzo have his own part of Anbu if it doesn`t matter much?

And if he`s behind the Kyubii attack with Madara, then its even a bigger chance that he has some evil plans dvelling far into the "evil" part of Root

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

OK
I have a logical assumption as to what is going on !
according to mythology and such and from what i have seen i have a theory !
Izanagi returns people to life after near death (or certian death situations) BUT ! the cost of using this technique is losing a sharingan eye ... After seeing this i can safely say this is how Madara is alive after the fight with the frist and also explains Why he only has one eye ! and why he is a former shell of himself as losing that one eye he no longer has EMS ... this also explains how he was able to recognize the jutsu when danzo was using it
Let me know if this helps anyone

This is what i was thinking but my question is how did he survive for so long he could have died of disease or anything but using Izanagi makes complete sense. Even now with only one eye his space time ninjutsu is still more advanced than the Fourth that shows how powerful Madara really was. Saying all this brings me to same point over and over again. How the hell Senju Hashiram was able to defeat Madara at his prime when he had the EMS. The only explation is that the First used a special jutsu that only a Senju can use(requires lots of chakras) and most probably Naruto will learn that technique to beat or atleast have a chance of beating Madara.

 

[BigBen]

Haha, your not alone Sometimes that happends to me to. I didn`t even notice when i was reading through, that those 5 comments in row was all yours It may have to do with the fact that we live at different parts in the world and what time it is at the day/night.

But it was actually me who brought that theory fort

But who knows, why would Danzo have his own part of Anbu if it doesn`t matter much?

And if he`s behind the Kyubii attack with Madara, then its even a bigger chance that he has some evil plans dvelling far into the "evil" part of Root

Hey bro i have a theory about izanagi i wanna run by you ... and rukia too
go up a few posts and let me know what you think about it lol

 

[BigBen]

This is what i was thinking but my question is how did he survive for so long he could have died of disease or anything but using Izanagi makes complete sense. Even now with only one eye his space time ninjutsu is still more advanced than the Fourth that shows how powerful Madara really was. Saying all this brings me to same point over and over again. How the hell Senju Hashiram was able to defeat Madara at his prime when he had the EMS. The only explation is that the First used a special jutsu that only a Senju can use(requires lots of chakras) and most probably Naruto will learn that technique to beat or atleast have a chance of beating Madara.

He survived for so long because of pein lol thats why he was pissed when he used that life jutsu on konoha hahaha but yeah pein kept Madara alive and well all this time by "killing him"
and using the technique to ressurect him or so i'd choose to believe (makes sense to me bro)

For the same reason the 4th sealed the fox in Naruto lol don't forget bro the frist could control bijuu like pets and this is what prolly fockt madara's day up the konoha Kage's i'm sure know all about the history of one another and it stands to reason the 4th sealed the Fox into Naruto after getting a "lucky shot" on Madara forcing him to retreat. ( We do know the 4th fought Madara and the Fox at the same time so Naruto's dad has some Teaching to give his boy)

I WOULD LOVE ! ! ! kishi to go spend some time and show these fights and not just eye rape us with sasuke all the time !!!!! so to speculation of what might have happend..

SO my guess is like this the frist and madara square off they go back and forth and then start busting out powerhouse moves madara with EMS and the frist with his landscape of doom he prolly figured Madara out that he deflects all attacks but needs to be soild to land a attack then Madara summoned the Fox (Only known shinobi who was powerful enough to do it) and thought to use it on the frist but he fliped the fox on Madara well he was going to bust out a end all attack and in this suprise he landed a near fatal hit on him ... thus leading to the rest the frist walked up saw he was "dead" or so he thought madara knowing his end is near decided he'd use izanagi and give up his sharingan to get even with konoha and the frist in the future,,,,

From that day onwards he has always worked in the shadow's mindrapeing sasuke and the rest of akasuki using there power to gather the tailed beasts and become the 10 tailed jinchuriki and use sasuke's eyes to get his powers back "and become complete" as he said in the kage summit lol
ALL speculation mind you but i see the battle going something along these lines

 

[Michael92]

Hey bro i have a theory about izanagi i wanna run by you ... and rukia too
go up a few posts and let me know what you think about it lol

I was reading through the posts to catch up for yesterday/today and right before i got to your post, i actually thought about the same thing

I just want to get some half-theories out here:

* Danzo turning off his Izanagi tech. for a sec. probobly has to do with the fact that he said release right before he tried to cut of Sasuke`s head.
Maybe he thought that he had won and canceled the tech, but then Sasuke broke free, and Danzo had to activate it again.

* To be able to use Izanagi, one have to saccrefise an eye each time to use it.
So i have two theories why its forbidden.

1: As Bigben said, it causes the Uchiha to lose the sharingaan(read his post) or
2: Because to use the tech. perfectly one have to have more than 2 eyes, like Danzo, meaning that every member of the clan went plucking eachothers eyes, causing the clan to face extingstion.
But if thats correct and Madara used it ones when he didn`t see any choice, why does Danzo throws away his eyes so carelessly?

Sasuke isn`t that powerfull?

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

I got a really interesting question for all the Naruto fans, is Naruto really stronger than Jiraiya? i mean i know Naruto as a sage surpasses Jiraiya but i think of it a bit differently.

When Jiraiya fought Pain he never knew of his abilities and after fighting the first time at one time he had to fought all the six pains together although he was in Sennin Mode he was no match for all the six pains together even then he took out two or three of them. Also the fact that to go in Sage Mode he had to buy some time against those huge dogs.

As for Naruto well he came to fight Pain all prepared with the two toad, the summoning frogs and he came in Sage Mode when he arrived. Plus the fact that God Realm Pain couldn't get involved in the fight right away bcoz he used a huge technique to destroy Konoha he couldn't do anything for a while was a huge bonus for Naruto. He i guess killed the the rest of the five or at least four of the Pains before the God Realm Pain got involved in the battle. He had to use the chakra of the Nine tails to get out of Pain's powerful technique although that the chakra of Nine Tails is his powers so theres is point in complaining. After all those things he was able to kill the last Pain. Then the only Pain left was Nagato which i think that Naruto eventually would have been able to kill Nagato the fact that he was able to resist Nagato's some powers(i don't remember) so close to him.

I'm a HUGE fan of both Naruto and Jiraiya the only reason i am pointing at this fact is that Jiraiya as a ninja was and still is far superior than Naruto. while Naruto as a ninja except for Rasengan and Fuuton Rasengan don't have many techniques. In a fight against the likes of Danzou, Madara, and Sasuke he has no choice but to go to Sage mode which will not be good for him at the end. Thus i can say surely that Naruto will commence his training very soon (although i dont know what type of training) and at the end he will make Jiraiya very proud.

 

[Michael92]

One more thing. Madara said: "I was wondering how a none Uchiha could controll that many sharingaans, no wonder since he has the first`s DNA" or something.

It just struck me If the first could controll sharingaans with his mokton, does that reveal how he managed to not get caught in a genjutsu?

Does this mean that if Naruto learns Mokton, he can avoid getting traped in Sasuke`s Tsjukinomi?

One last thing. Someone or actually a lot of people complaines about Sasuke learning all of this new Sharingaan techniques. Well Kishi is probobly letting Sasuke get all the good stuff first, and later on. Naruto will learn a lot of cool techniques after eachother and peoples will start complaining that he has becomed too powerful

 

[BigBen]

I got a really interesting question for all the Naruto fans, is Naruto really stronger than Jiraiya
I'm a HUGE fan of both Naruto and Jiraiya the only reason i am pointing at this fact is that Jiraiya as a ninja was and still is far superior than Naruto. while Naruto as a ninja except for Rasengan and Fuuton Rasengan don't have many techniques. In a fight against the likes of Danzou, Madara, and Sasuke he has no choice but to go to Sage mode which will not be good for him at the end. Thus i can say surely that Naruto will commence his training very soon (although i dont know what type of training) and at the end he will make Jiraiya very proud.

Naruto WiLL be CollectIng Soul's hahaha
He is the main char bro of corse he will be the shit hahaha

 

[BigBen]

One more thing. Madara said: "I was wondering how a none Uchiha could controll that many sharingaans, no wonder since he has the first`s DNA" or something.

It just struck me If the first could controll sharingaans with his mokton, does that reveal how he managed to not get caught in a genjutsu?

Does this mean that if Naruto learns Mokton, he can avoid getting traped in Sasuke`s Tsjukinomi?

One last thing. Someone or actually a lot of people complaines about Sasukes learning all of this techs. Well Kishi is probobly letting Sasuke get all the good stuff first, and later now. Naruto will learn a lot of could techs after eachother and peoples will start complaining that he has becomed too powerfull

Yea it'll be like a rocky movie Sas will be OP'd maybe even beat naruto in a little fight Naruto goes and trains his ass off and makes 206 clones (200 for training and 6 to play eye of the tiger LOL)
But you are 100% correct man and i know this i'm just saying it would be nice to see some new moves haha keep the rasengan as a finisher but give him some new attacks like Sora's wind shit ... or asuma's thing but over his body like sas lol haha i dunno i'm just saying it'd be nice to see him bust out new things instead of cry and mourn