Naruto Manga 436:I Have Kind've Been Waiting for this...

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...Naruto's belief's have been challenged by Pein. He didn't even know what to say when Pein asked him for a solution to war. Naruto seemed to be one of the main characters that believed Konoha could do no wrong. Ever since Shippuden he has slowly began to realize that this isn't true, but not fully. This event will hopefully cause Naruto to wake up and become mature. What do you guys think?
 

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...Naruto's belief's have been challenged by Pein. He didn't even know what to say when Pein asked him for a solution to war. Naruto seemed to be one of the main characters that believed Konoha could do no wrong. Ever since Shippuden he has slowly began to realize that this isn't true, but not fully. This event will hopefully cause Naruto to wake up and become mature. What do you guys think?
naruto to me.. is kinda a person who just goes with the flow...
no thought is really taken into consideration...
like if he sees things one way and you tell him another way that works for u...
its kinda like... huh.. or he will say somethin else to counter your thoughts...

in shorts... naruto really didnt have the answer... cuz he never thought about it...
its kinda like its not his problem to think about it....
 
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that isnt something that most people would be thinking about at 16 dude, i mean his main goals right now are bring sasuke back, and become hokage, jman had thought about it because he was older, same with nagato, im sure nagato didnt have it planned out like he does now at 16,
 
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...Naruto's belief's have been challenged by Pein. He didn't even know what to say when Pein asked him for a solution to war. Naruto seemed to be one of the main characters that believed Konoha could do no wrong. Ever since Shippuden he has slowly began to realize that this isn't true, but not fully. This event will hopefully cause Naruto to wake up and become mature. What do you guys think?
Very interesting subject!

Like u said Naruto was very close minded if we could say. He was only seeing things from his own point of view and always influence people into seeing life and realtionship in a one dimensional kind of way. Nagato is way more complex. He is able to perfectly anticipate the humain reaction to all his flaw. In other word, he can understand not only the pain he suffer, but the pain other suffer, and knowing the consequence of is action he still think for the greater good.
 

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that isnt something that most people would be thinking about at 16 dude, i mean his main goals right now are bring sasuke back, and become hokage, jman had thought about it because he was older, same with nagato, im sure nagato didnt have it planned out like he does now at 16,

I get what you are saying, but if you look at other characters his age like Sasuke, Gaara Shikamaru, Temari....I mean living in a land like they have and growing up the way Naruto does which in contrast to the way we live at sixteen is drastically different. They are adolescence who are growing up in the midst of fighting and war which would probably force one to grow up and mature...
 

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Pein's views are those of a radicalist. He's bending the truth and showing things to Naruto from his perspective only.

This is how PEIN sees the world.

Pein is a crazy terrorist who wants to get revenge on the world for making his life miserable.... his views of the world are somewhat twisted.

Pein isn't right.
 

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Pein's views are those of a radicalist. He's bending the truth and showing things to Naruto from his perspective only.

This is how PEIN sees the world.

Pein is a crazy terrorist who wants to get revenge on the world for making his life miserable.... his views of the world are somewhat twisted.

Pein isn't right.
True.....but before this naruto's views were simplistic, this will hopefully force him to come up with a better solution through maturation...
 

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...Naruto's belief's have been challenged by Pein. He didn't even know what to say when Pein asked him for a solution to war. Naruto seemed to be one of the main characters that believed Konoha could do no wrong. Ever since Shippuden he has slowly began to realize that this isn't true, but not fully. This event will hopefully cause Naruto to wake up and become mature. What do you guys think?
You should've posted this in the 436 Discussion thread...again its a waste of thread bytes...the more threads the server creates the more bytes it consumes...next time please read the threads first before you create a new one...
 

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I don't know how Naruto will be swayed.

IMO, Pain is correct when he says that they both have suffered pain, in different ways.

Pain means well, but the way he goes about what he's doing doesn't justify it for me just yet....

They are both trying to obtain peace, but in different ways.
 

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Pein is a crazy terrorist who wants to get revenge on the world for making his life miserable.... his views of the world are somewhat twisted.....i like this line bishama sama you may be right but the only question i have is if pein is killing for revenge doesnt that make saskue the same?...and yes narutos eyes are always closed he was never taken seriously for anything but fighting when he finally wakes up he will good enough for hokage
 
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I get what you are saying, but if you look at other characters his age like Sasuke, Gaara Shikamaru, Temari....I mean living in a land like they have and growing up the way Naruto does which in contrast to the way we live at sixteen is drastically different. They are adolescence who are growing up in the midst of fighting and war which would probably force one to grow up and mature...
alright i will give you shikamaru and temari, they are both very intelligent, sasuke on the other hand was motivated by one thing only, revenge, his only goal was to kill itachi and it didnt matter wat the cost to his life was as long as he did it, and gaara is the way he is now because of naruto's way of thinking, he has basically come to believe what naruto believes
 

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...Naruto's belief's have been challenged by Pein. He didn't even know what to say when Pein asked him for a solution to war. Naruto seemed to be one of the main characters that believed Konoha could do no wrong. Ever since Shippuden he has slowly began to realize that this isn't true, but not fully. This event will hopefully cause Naruto to wake up and become mature. What do you guys think?
ok dude i will assume u are older than naruto right? what will u do to bring peace?
 

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ok dude i will assume u are older than naruto right? what will u do to bring peace?
Don't know why you're asking me this, but I actually believe that there isn't/ or ever will be any such thing as true (global) peace in the the world we live in now....but by doing what one can to achieve personal peace is all one can do....

can't agree.naruto's view is the best one.noone can achieve peace by force.its nonsence!
I never said that Pein's view was right.....but what Pein said kind've made Naruto view the world through someone elses shoes......through the shoes of Pein...lol.
 

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...Naruto's belief's have been challenged by Pein. He didn't even know what to say when Pein asked him for a solution to war. Naruto seemed to be one of the main characters that believed Konoha could do no wrong. Ever since Shippuden he has slowly began to realize that this isn't true, but not fully. This event will hopefully cause Naruto to wake up and become mature. What do you guys think?
I don't see that his belief will change. All he thought on the matter up to now is that he would find a way to make peace, not that he had already found it. He has just been asked the question when he has not yet decided on a solution for violence in the world.
 
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