[Predictions] Naruto Manga 432 Predictions / 431 Discussion

[Japhrimu]

It might be asking too much, but maybe someone could give characters' statuses (not necessarily the adults, except enemies like Madara). For instance, we know Team Hawk, including Sasuke, water boy, kisime, the cursemark guy, and the chick that likes Sasuke, are en route to Konoha. People we know are in Konoha right now: Naruto (obviously), Shikamaru, Sakura, Choji, and Kiba. Have we seen Shino since he was trying to help against "Tobi," right around the Sasuke/Itatchi battle? When was the last time we saw Team Guy? Where were they? Is the team still Guy, Lee, Tenten, and Neji? Where's Hinata? Somebody, help me out.

 

[Devlin]

It might be asking too much, but maybe someone could give characters' statuses (not necessarily the adults, except enemies like Madara). For instance, we know Team Hawk, including Sasuke, water boy, kisime, the cursemark guy, and the chick that likes Sasuke, are en route to Konoha. People we know are in Konoha right now: Naruto (obviously), Shikamaru, Sakura, Choji, and Kiba. Have we seen Shino since he was trying to help against "Tobi," right around the Sasuke/Itatchi battle? When was the last time we saw Team Guy? Where were they? Is the team still Guy, Lee, Tenten, and Neji? Where's Hinata? Somebody, help me out.

if you look through the recent manga u'll see hinata in it....

 

[Japhrimu]

if you look through the recent manga u'll see hinata in it....

Thanks.

 

[Itachi Sama]

I disagree with you. Yes, Naruto has gotten strong so fast, but Naruto is different than everybody else. He could learn a thousand time faster than normal people with his shadow clones. He learned his wind chakra in a week where it will take someone else three years. This is why he strong than Jman

I never said that he was not strong, nor that he could not learn way faster than the average ninja. However, this does not have anything to do with the fact that Naruto is receiving a lot of help, which people who actually fought Pain lacked. I am pretty sure he one day will surpass Sasuke, and that as he is now he could stand his ground against him. If Pain had been at its fullest, and Naruto had not received help-i.e.: Tsunade's slug warning him against "deflector" Pain-, he would not probably be doing so well against Pain...

 

[Japhrimu]

Hey, Itachi, how do you get that animation in your signature. Is it something you made, found, or is it on this website to choose from. If you made it, how?

 

[dredblack7]

I would be very careful with stating Naruto's strength. I don't think Naruto has become stronger than Sasuke. 1) Pain is weakened from having fought Kakashi and the strongest ninja in Konoha, 2) Naruto is receiving a lot of help ( from the giant ninja toads, along with Gamakishi and the two small old ones, male and female, that actually trained Jiraiya) which People who fought Pain, such as Jiraiya, did not have, except for the two small elder frogs in the latter's case.

lol, itachi. i love how wrong you are.

first off:
Kishi stated that Sasuke cannot measure against Naruto's New Powers.

next:

Nagato is controlling the dead bodies like puppets using the chakra receivers, he never got tired from any fighting even with Kakashi or the Ninjas of Konoha...He only overused Deva Path using his Cho-Shinra-Tensei...and now he needs to re-charge Deva Path's power before he lets Yahiko's Body fight Naruto. Look at the 6 Pein Body's formation in 431, Hell Realm is behind Deva Realm, with the other 4 in front. He's going to use the 4 in front to determine Naruto's Skills, and will most likely revive them using Hell Realm's Technique...which is why Hell Realm is behind Deva Realm.


you understand yet? or did i confuse you with the Realms and Paths?...i hope i didn't m8.

 

[leafeater]

It's the bodies,not Nagato (assuming they are at least somewhat distinct), that have been temporarily weakened by not having full chakra. Given that, it doesn't explain why Naruto shouldn't have been able to kill the two bodies.

1.) Deva/puppet body that he killed with Rasengan, caught everyone off guard. His speed and formation of the jutsu. No one, not even God realm, which is the one realm not weakened if I have it right, was able to follow him.

2.) The second Pein body did deflect Naruto's physical punch, however, Naruto is surrounded in Nature chakra, which is what hit Pein as an extension of Naruto's physical being like the fox cloak.


Saying that Naruto is overusing the toads is kind of ridiculous. What's the point of having a contract with the toads if you aren't using it to its fullest. Further, Naruto is a toad sage so his relationship with the toads is even stronger. Jiraiya used the toads against Pein extensively, and he couldn't have used sage mode without them. Recall also that one of the summons that fought Jiraiya was camaflouged, requiring Jiraiya to have Pa toad find it. Naruto can sense everyone's chakra, and identify them, using sage mode. I have a feeling that Jiraiya lacked this due to his inability to perfect sage mode.

Sasuke would be dead right now if he didn't summon Manda to shield him from Deidara. The use of summonings is not a weakness but an attribute.

 

[KonohasRedFox69]

Japhrimu u need to read the manga dude ur soo lost right now hahha team guy is on there way in konoha shino is in konoha already he was fighting konan before she left and hinati as stated before is in konoha dude lol

 

[Japhrimu]

Yeah, I tend to miss some stuff. Thanks for the update. I don't remember seeing some of this stuff. Oh well. When did we see that Team Guy's on the way back? Do they have a clue as to what's going on? Thanks for the reply.

 

[Talisix]

Kakashi is still alive
remember because no one of charcter died for nothing
3rd died for protecting vilage
4th and jiraya to
and it's same for asuma he gave his life to protect the king and someone who love and know shikamaru
and don't tell me kakashi dead for protecting someone that he doesn't know very well and he's not that important to him if he was sasuke , sakura or naruto it's ok but choji!!

Not to put to fine a point on it, but you're wrong. While I agree that Kakashi isn't dead (Slug wouldn't waste chakra on a dead man, plus the convo we saw with his father had to have some effect on the story or why write it. My theory is that the white blade of Konoha will remind his son that he still has work to do and that he's selfishly pursuing his own desire to die with honor and be reunited with his friends.) The part you are wrong about is kakashi would gladly give his life for Choji, or any other Konoha member for that matter. Choji, Shikamaru, Kiba, and Neji all hated Sasuke but put there lives on the line for him because as Shikamaru so eloquently put it, "We may not like it, but Sasuke is a member of this village just like the rest of us, and I would gladly put my life on the line for any leaf shinobi." That is the entire basis of the leaf village. Even those members of Konoha that still hate Naruto would rather die than give him up to Pein. It is enough that they are leaf. Leaf does not betray leaf.

~~T~~

 

[Japhrimu]

Not to put to fine a point on it, but you're wrong. While I agree that Kakashi isn't dead (Slug wouldn't waste chakra on a dead man, plus the convo we saw with his father had to have some effect on the story or why write it. My theory is that the white blade of Konoha will remind his son that he still has work to do and that he's selfishly pursuing his own desire to die with honor and be reunited with his friends.) The part you are wrong about is kakashi would gladly give his life for Choji, or any other Konoha member for that matter. Choji, Shikamaru, Kiba, and Neji all hated Sasuke but put there lives on the line for him because as Shikamaru so eloquently put it, "We may not like it, but Sasuke is a member of this village just like the rest of us, and I would gladly put my life on the line for any leaf shinobi." That is the entire basis of the leaf village. Even those members of Konoha that still hate Naruto would rather die than give him up to Pein. It is enough that they are leaf. Leaf does not betray leaf.

~~T~~

Yeah, you're right, but I don't think Kishi would eliminate such a big character in such a little way. What I mean is there's so much going on at the time (all of Konoha is being decimated) that even though WE saw a lot of this single battle, it was just a little part of what was going on. At least with the others (The 3rd, Asuma, Jurayia), the battle was kind of FOCUSED on them. You know what I mean? Did I just make sense? I'm not sure.

 

[Talisix]

Yeah, you're right, but I don't think Kishi would eliminate such a big character in such a little way. What I mean is there's so much going on at the time (all of Konoha is being decimated) that even though WE saw a lot of this single battle, it was just a little part of what was going on. At least with Asuma, the battle was kind of FOCUSED on him. You know what I mean? Did I just make sense? I'm not sure.

No, you made sense. I just don't think it's the context of the battle that matters. Like I said, the reason he's dying is because he wants too. Everyone he cared about died in battle protecting Konoha. He didn't want to commit suicide like the white fang, and he couldn't betray his friends sacrifices so he became ruthlessly strong in their place to protect what they couldn't. That was his way of honoring them. Right now he is in essence giving up. He wants to uphold his obligations and die to be with those he cares for. Now that Naruto and Sakura have come into their own he believes his role is complete. Not to mention that, like me, he believes Sasuke is still good at heart and will come back when he's done his thing. So now he dies knowing that all is well. That's the meaning behind daddy's visit. It's a literary tool used to show us the internal struggle between what the character wants and what he has to do. His father isn't really there, it's the part of himself that knows he can't die yet. I think he still has things to teach Naruto personally, but the point is, the internal dialogue will turn to his father hearing all of his life and reminding him that he has more to do before he dies. My theory is, this is the tool Kishi will use to tell Naruto of his parentage and responsibilites and possibly pass some part of the Yondaime's legacy to his son.

~~T~~

 

[Japhrimu]

Cool take on it. Not arguing, but what if he's gonna pull a Jurayia... J-man wanted to go out like a true hero, or something. Something like what you just said, how his 'dad's gonna tell him there's more to be done, but that turns out to be just saving Naruto one last time. (Pain might do something huge, that Naruto's not ready for, or he's not in sage mode anymore) Just throwing ideas out there. I'd actually like to see something along the lines of Platinum69's idea of White Fang Reborn, just not as big as he imagined.

 

[Talisix]

Cool take on it. Not arguing, but what if he's gonna pull a Jurayia... J-man wanted to go out like a true hero, or something. Something like what you just said, how his 'dad's gonna tell him there's more to be done, but that turns out to be just saving Naruto one last time. (Pain might do something huge, that Naruto's not ready for, or he's not in sage mode anymore) Just throwing ideas out there. I'd actually like to see something along the lines of Platinum69's idea of White Fang Reborn, just not as big as he imagined.

No, what happened with Jiraya-sama was that he had already died, but remembering Naruto's strength shamed him into coming back. "The way of the pupil should be the way of the master right?" Kakashi is far too wounded to save anyone. He's gonna be in the hospital... again. Plus his students have already, arguably, surpassed him. That's been the theme, when the student surpasses the master the master dies. I don't believe he'll die, I think he's gonna take on an advisory role and become there Yoda. I wouldn't be surprised if Sasuke kills him because Kakashi stands between him and Konoha and that is the catalyst that draws Sasuke back to Konoha's side.... Unlikely, but possible. I do believe there will be more between him and Sasuke though.

 

[kagaekrish]

Nah... She didn't surpass Tsunade yet. Otherwise it wouldn't seem so hard for Sakura right now (she's really flustered with the amount of casualties). Sakura, also, would've been able to control, give orders, or give her chakra to the Slug thingy. Tsunade was the one doing all of this. I looked at what you're talking about, and it's not Sakura who says that. There's a weird outline around the conversation bubble, and a "..." before saying 'Tsunade.' I'm almost sure it's Danzou... it's gotta be, and he's making his move.

no man its not the danzou its the frog remember its the frog which took tsunade away from the battle arena and the frog did compliment her "NO DANZOU"

 

[Uchiha Itachi 09]

Natural Energy:

Someone mentioned that Naruto was probably gathering natural energy whilst in the fight, simply by rotating between standing still and atacking.
It makes some sense, since in the pic with Fukasaku saying something about Naruto being more dangerous, etc; Naruto is gathering natural energy.
I think he is gathering natural energy while fighting.

Shadow Clones:

A couple of people said something about Naruto being far away gathering the natural energy while his clones are fighting and during the fight he made 2 of them.
Unless I am mistaken, I have never seen his shadow clones perform a kagebunshin.
I agree that this new Naruto is still a mistery, so we never know.

Toad Mountain:

Seing how Naruto became so strong and apparently we haven?t even seen the tip of it, how much time should we assume wen t by since he went to toad mountain? I have stated before that I believe time passes by differently there.

Tsunade & Minato:

It may seem crazy...but I was wondering...what if the 4th was Tsunade?s brother or even relative?

End:

This fight is not gonna end in Konoha. Some more fighting will go on, Pein will most likely kill someone or some people dear to Naruto, piss him off.
Since I stated that he is gathering natural energy while fighting, "waves of rage" makes sense to be the release of 4 tails.
Kishi stated that it would happen end of 2008 beginning of 2009.
Naruto is probably gonna get drained out of natural energy. Won?t have time to recharge and Pein will atack him.
Pein is gonna kill someone, which will make Naruto go wild and release the 4 tails.
Finally I am guessing Pein will flee.
We still don?t know how far team Guy, Cloud team and team Hawk are from konoha...so more fighting might be envolved.

Peace.

 

[deepdiveroo7]

It's the bodies,not Nagato (assuming they are at least somewhat distinct), that have been temporarily weakened by not having full chakra. Given that, it doesn't explain why Naruto shouldn't have been able to kill the two bodies.

1.) Deva/puppet body that he killed with Rasengan, caught everyone off guard. His speed and formation of the jutsu. No one, not even God realm, which is the one realm not weakened if I have it right, was able to follow him.

2.) The second Pein body did deflect Naruto's physical punch, however, Naruto is surrounded in Nature chakra, which is what hit Pein as an extension of Naruto's physical being like the fox cloak.


Saying that Naruto is overusing the toads is kind of ridiculous. What's the point of having a contract with the toads if you aren't using it to its fullest. Further, Naruto is a toad sage so his relationship with the toads is even stronger. Jiraiya used the toads against Pein extensively, and he couldn't have used sage mode without them. Recall also that one of the summons that fought Jiraiya was camaflouged, requiring Jiraiya to have Pa toad find it. Naruto can sense everyone's chakra, and identify them, using sage mode. I have a feeling that Jiraiya lacked this due to his inability to perfect sage mode.

Sasuke would be dead right now if he didn't summon Manda to shield him from Deidara. The use of summonings is not a weakness but an attribute.

I agree with you.... and will say that naruto has surpassed Jman in strength....as he was abble to complete sage mode without changing appearance as for Jman...... he was very ugly and diformed .... hahaha...!
Naruto is strong.... and wait for when he can control the fox.... can't wait for it....!

 

[Devlin]

There are so many things that we are yet to see...i mean you've got the remaining akatsuki members....(flytrap guy,fish guy) there is the fight that was mentioned by the guy from team hawk who is after his sword because he has zabuza's at the minute,theres gunna be a kick ass fight with the cloud ninja and team hawk sometime soon its inevitibal that pein is going to retreat after he get information on naruto and has killed at least one person who is close to naruto (whether it is kakashi or not) i get this feeling that kakashi is going to jump in the way of an attack and protect naruto...something along the lines of taking a bullet kinda thing....bit like iruka sensei did when naruto stole the hidden scroll,i mean kakashi has been referring to how naruto has grown for how long now....you think kishi would let him die before him seeing naruto in full sage mode.....hmmmm me thinks not....

 

[naruto the great sage]

who wud win in a fight goku or superman

 

[shensi]

don't forget Donzou has some anbu on his side and everyone is weak from that bast. He will try and Sakura will step in and stop donzou from killing Tsunade.:sakura:

i don't think so bro. it is sakura, i guess. the chances for danzou to be there is very less. well it just my wild prediction...