[Predictions] Naruto Manga 431 Predictions / 430 Discussion

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First time posting.

There is something i think we are missing or cant seem to answer. Yes Pein took out the villiage, and hes very strong yes. If he was able to do this at anytime, then why not do it before when naruto was a kid?. Its simple Itachi was actually stronger then we know in order to keep pein from going and doing this. It simply couldnt be becuase of what he did to his clan that the akatski would alow him to prtect his village. That being said i dont think we even have the slightest clue as to how strong Madera is. We also have no idea what naruto is capable of since they neglected to show a good majority of his training.

Now on to Sasuke.

He has become a rather gimp charater. there is no way that sasuke could beat naruto at his current level. we know that he doesnt have the curse seal anymore. we know that most of his jutsu's that he learned with Oro were based on gaining extra power from said seal. Also he has not done any training since he killed Oro. During this whole time Naruto has been training and running missions.

Naruto has the best chance of fighting Pein that is around at the moment. We see that he isnt charging in and just shouting he seems very cool and collected, if he mad you better belive it, at the same time he is much more mature.

The up comming manga's are going to shock everyone and i cant seem to find a single theory that suggests that any of us actually know where its going. Im excited to see where we are taking and how the Naruto world forms after all this.

Thanks and sorry for such a retarded post
I think he didn't attack the village when Naruto was a kid becuase
1-they had to find out where all the bijuus are. Finding out a villages best kept secret is hard to do.
2- They have to capture and seal the bijuus in a certain order. If they don't the Statue shatters. Capturing and containing a bijuu is much harder than waiting until they need to seal it.
 

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I think he didn't attack the village when Naruto was a kid becuase
1-they had to find out where all the bijuus are. Finding out a villages best kept secret is hard to do.
2- They have to capture and seal the bijuus in a certain order. If they don't the Statue shatters. Capturing and containing a bijuu is much harder than waiting until they need to seal it.
This is true, but there are some uncertain points.
Itachi and Kisame went after naruto waaay before the two tailed was sealed. I dont understand why is it so, cuz later it is said that kyubi has to be sealed last. So is it a mistake in the plot? Otherwise what would akatsuki do with naruto for 2,5 years? And one more qustion... Why isnt there winter in the manga? It is like eternal summer there...
 

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This is true, but there are some uncertain points.
Itachi and Kisame went after naruto waaay before the two tailed was sealed. I dont understand why is it so, cuz later it is said that kyubi has to be sealed last. So is it a mistake in the plot? Otherwise what would akatsuki do with naruto for 2,5 years? And one more qustion... Why isnt there winter in the manga? It is like eternal summer there...
It was later revealed by Madara that Itachi came back to make sure that no one hurt Sasuke. It was kind of like a warning.
 

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This is a repost of my first post on NB seeing as it got ignored somehow back on page 23. Here is just a theory I have yet to see someone put. May or may not be true that's why its a theory. I can see Danzou and Madara working together this whole time. Danzou convincing Madara to manipulate Itachi and him to manipulate Sasuke so he can get his revenge on the First Hokage, and Konoha. Madara agrees and we get to where the story is now. Danzou kills the frog to prevent Pein from getting all 9 Bijuu, as Pein is being manipulated by Danzou and Madara. As their goal is to control all 9 themselves. Now that Konoha is destroyed Danzou will try to rebuild in his own image after the all out battle between Naruto and Pein. This will in turn lead to the destruction of Pein if not now sometime later after he runs off like a dog with it's tail between it's legs. Only to get new bodies and come back stronger. Danzou will make his move not knowing how powerful Naruto has become and will get owned as a result. Madara will still watch things progress as he would rather have everyone sacrifice themselves for his goal. Like a game of chess. He will pit Naruto and Sasuke against each other in an attempt to gain the Kyuubi, as his goal all along has been to become as powerful as possible. This will backfire as Madara didn't read the name of the Manga is called Naruto and will ultimately get owned by Naruto in the end, but not before alot more story arcs. Oh I left out how Madara was really manipulating Danzou as if he were playing along with what he thought was his plan. To where he really intended on double crossing him or just using him for his own scheme of things.
 

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It was later revealed by Madara that Itachi came back to make sure that no one hurt Sasuke. It was kind of like a warning.
I didnt get anything... I was asking why Itachi came to catch naruto 2.5 years before the 9-tails had to be sealed? AND WHY ISNT THERE ANY WINTER IN NARUTO!!!???? LoL)))
 

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I didnt get anything... I was asking why Itachi came to catch naruto 2.5 years before the 9-tails had to be sealed? AND WHY ISNT THERE ANY WINTER IN NARUTO!!!???? LoL)))
I know that what I was talking about...
But I don't know why there is no winter in the naruto world. Uh mabye Kishi is a scrooge who dosen't like snow?? santasmile
 

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I know that what I was talking about...
But I don't know why there is no winter in the naruto world. Uh mabye Kishi is a scrooge who dosen't like snow?? santasmile
there actually is a logocal explaination Japan only gets snow at the top of mountains(volcanos) so its not that he doesn't like snow its thatit only snows in mountaines regions. don't for get the Naruto Movie ninja attack in the land of snow. LOL (I Kniw it was written by Kiski)
 

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did u see the dancing or drilling whatever they call it with that horrible toad? that was training??? how f*ckn dumb that can be? i saw many fillers upto now. but to me that was the worst to date. and the end song deserves a grammy!!!

now here is a suggestion. dont take any cue or idea from filler writers. fillers are written by animators(it seems they r not good at it), NOT KISHI. sometimes they try to be too creative and more often than not make a mess of it. i can give many examples of that. now that combination f*ck, he has already done with yamato. he knows how to synchronize already. so no need for this kind of s*hit. man!! those filler writers really made jman, toads and naruto look SILLY. i wish i cud personally kick them.

PS. venting some anger!!! :mad:
I know it's just a filler and that Kishi didn't write it. But still, they wouldn't write anything about naruto without Kishi's permission or knowledge. That would be like copyright infringement. Kishi knows what they write in those fillers and I'm pretty sure that Kishi would object if they write something or anything that would mess his ideas about the story. All I'm saying is that Kishi has some input in those fillers one way or the other... that or Kishi don't own Naruto anymore... Would you allow anyone mess your own original story?
Just saying though... ;)
 

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I know it's just a filler and that Kishi didn't write it. But still, they wouldn't write anything about naruto without Kishi's permission or knowledge. That would be like copyright infringement. Kishi knows what they write in those fillers and I'm pretty sure that Kishi would object if they write something or anything that would mess his ideas about the story. All I'm saying is that Kishi has some input in those fillers one way or the other... that or Kishi don't own Naruto anymore... Would you allow anyone mess your own original story?
Just saying though... ;)
no actually it doesnt work this way. anime is like "adapted screenplay". i hope u know what that is. i am quoting some1 from another forum -

"Kishimoto has his own team of artists who help him with backgrounds, etc. Then he has his editors and agents who tell him if his story at the moment is rubbish or not and what to change about it lol.

What happened was Studio Pierrot bought the license of the Naruto manga for anime conversion. And since then, they've had very little to do with each other. Kishimoto's done the manga and they've done the anime.

The only Mangaka who's been known to work with the anime production team is Tite Kubo with Bleach."

the above quote is not a proof. i just gave u some background. but the following is:

if anime writers took approval from kishi before production, things like this wudnt have happened -

naruto filler episode 194: naruto throws rasengan
 
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no actually it doesnt work this way. anime is like "adapted screenplay". i hope u know what that is. i am quoting some1 from another forum -

"Kishimoto has his own team of artists who help him with backgrounds, etc. Then he has his editors and agents who tell him if his story at the moment is rubbish or not and what to change about it lol.

What happened was Studio Pierrot bought the license of the Naruto manga for anime conversion. And since then, they've had very little to do with each other. Kishimoto's done the manga and they've done the anime.

The only Mangaka who's been known to work with the anime production team is Tite Kubo with Bleach."

the above quote is not a proof. i just gave u some background. but the following is:

if anime writers took approval from kishi before production, things like this wudnt have happened -

naruto filler episode 194: naruto throws rasengan
Naruto THROWS Rasengan?!?! - Duman6[/url]
Yup! I know what adapted screenplay is, I've worked on films. And I watched the episode (194)... yes again, that was stupid... lol... Guess that's really how they run the industry today. But even if the case is that the anime and the manga is run seperately, the anime can't go too far from the premise of the original. First off, the manga is still going. It's not like it's a finished novel where you know how it ends and very easy to change what you like 'cause you know where you're going. If they (anime makers) put anything they want in their episodes without any regard to what's going on in the manga, we'll have naruto going super saiyan... 5!!! lol :eek: But still... great point. Stupid flying rasengan...:eek: lmao!!!:D

Thanks for the posts dude! Cheers!!!:)
 
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Well Madara is no pushover. I think he knows who the real Pain is. Zetsu is on Madara`s side and he could have easily found out the truth about Pain.
And I think Uchiha˙s are geniuses. The sharingan enables them to copy jutsu, taijutsu and stuff but nevertheless you have to be smart to use it in a fight. They have the upper hand due to the Sharingan, don`t blame them for that. It`s the same with Neji. He is a genius because of his byakugan. A nobody blames him for that :) You are all stuck on Uchiha`s :)
just kidding :)

And Itachi is way stronger than that. Give him some credit man. Kakashi is a ***** compared to Itachi. Itachi himself said that he is on the same level as Jiraiya when he and Kisame were retreating from Konoha. He said that it would be an even fight between them.

Don`t compare Kakashi to Itachi :D Kakashi and Kabuto can be compared :D

regards :D
This is very true. Itachi did say the he and J-man were on the same level. And if you think about what Pein said after the J-man fight. He stated that if he would have known his secret earlier in the fight there is no way he would have been able to beat J-man. I too think that people aren't giving Itachi enough credit for his strength. No one had ever seen Itachi use Sansano in battle before. This is evidenced by the fact that during the fight with Sasuke Zetsu, who sees everything, did not know what Sansano was. That ability was said to be the perfect offence and defence with the spiritual items he possessed. So I think Itachi was on the same level as Madara and Pein with his ability of Sansano alone. Also if you think about Itachi's ability to use genjutsu he's probably one of the best at using it if not the best. I don't have any evidence that suggests that the Renningan is not suseptable to genjutsu so I chalk that up as another victory for Itachi. The fact of the matter is that Itachi was strong, very strong. Why else would Pein and Madara wait until Itachi was dead before they tried to take out Konoha.
 

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Yup! I know what adapted screenplay is, I've worked on films. And I watched the episode (194)... yes again, that was stupid... lol... Guess that's really how they run the industry today. But even if the case is that the anime and the manga is run seperately, the anime can't go too far from the premise of the original. First off, the manga is still going. It's not like it's a finished novel where you know how it ends and very easy to change what you like 'cause you know where you're going. If they (anime makers) put anything they want in their episodes without any regard to what's going on in the manga, we'll have naruto going super saiyan... 5!!! lol :eek: But still... great point. Stupid flying rasengan...:eek: lmao!!!:D

Thanks for the posts dude! Cheers!!!:)
no problem, dude. yes u r right. since the story is ongoing, i am sure both the anime production and kishi team/manga team must have signed a contract where anime guys cant deviate too much that will hamper the story later big time. but the problem is did they know how much is too much?? if they knew they wudnt have produced 'flying rasengan'..lmao...
 

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Naruto is using Shadow clones to draw in nature chakra. The last thing that was said to him before this episode was that he couldn't look left and right at the same time. Now that comment alone was what sparked Naruto's idea of using shadow clones to not only draw energy from nature while remaining still, but let other shadow clones fight and run around at the same time. Since when he disperses a shadow clone all chakra, memories, and everything else is passed to all the others, he can used the shadow clones to create more shadow clones and draw in more energy. he can draw energy from 5 of them at the same time in a remote area and then disperse them at intervals so that he never runs out of chakra. The real question is if the punch came from a shadow clone or the real Naruto. Naruto has not gotten cocky, he has gotten confidence and grown up some. He is embracing his destiny as protector of the Leaf Village and protecting all that he loves. He never cared who was better but strived to be the best to become Hokage. His knows if he can't beat Sasuke that he doesn't deserve to be Hokage so that goal he put to the side for now as his concentration is to get stronger to fight Sasuke. Pain is just a stepping stone for him as he knows Pain is just a shadow of what Sasuke's strength is like.
"The real question is if the punch came from a shadow clone or the real Naruto."
just to clear things up i went back and looked at manga 430 and i saw that he didnt punch him wich at first i thought he did.... he shoved a resengan in his back....

i was searching around looking for the 2009 kishi interview i basically what he told us and what i inferred was that j-man will eventually become one of pein's bodies. saying this makes it obvous that the naruto v pein battle wont finish because pein will most defenitely retreat.
 
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