[Predictions] Naruto Manga 416 Predictions / 415 Discussion

[darker_side]

I am asking you how you came up with another ninja war. I am not "starting stuff" I would like to know your theory on another ninja war, dont get upset about it.
Control your attitude

coz i think i found last senju clan shinobi and in spoilers of manga 416 i read sasuke saying that he wants to destroy konoha and then go after senju clan if he finds any of them...

 

[naturo9]

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Verification Confirmed
Translation: Cry of the Hawk

Here's my translation of everything. I believe it's much clearer:

サスケさんがハジけ過ぎてて噴いた。
Sasuke-san has flipped his lid and gone ape-****. (spoiler writer comments)

「一つ大切な事を聞く　イタチの生き様を知ったお前がイタチの意志を継ぎ木ノ葉を守るという考 えもある・・ ・本当のことを言え・・・お前はどうしたい？」
Madara-"There's something important I wanna hear from you. Seeing as you know of Itachi's life and his intention for you to inherit his will, tell me the truth.... What do you wish to do?"

「・・・イタチは俺に命をかけて里を守る生き様を見せてくれた」
Sasuke-"...Itachi showed me that he dedicated his life to risking himself for the village."

「だが俺にとってはそんな生き様よりもイタチを失った悲しみの方が深い・・・どうしようもなく な」
Sasuke- "But as far as I'm concerned, I can't help but feel that losing Itachi is a far greater sorrow."

「イタチを犠牲にした平和などｵﾚの望むものじゃない　真実を知った今イタチの生き様を継ぎ木 ノ葉を守る事 などｵﾚには到底出来ない」
Sasuke- "I didn't wish for Itachi to be a sacrifice of 'peace'. Knowing the truth now, taking up Itachi's mantle and protecting Konoha is something I cannot do."

「そして上層部の三人は絶対に許せない　イタチの命を代償にしてへらへらと平和を満喫している 木ノ葉の連中 も同罪だ」
Sasuke- "And I can't forgive the three elders. A frivolous peace for Konoha revel in, which Itachi payed for with his life. Konoha's hands are just as bloody."

「殺るのは上層部だけじゃなかったのか？」
Madara- "Weren't you only going to kill the elders?"

「イヤ・・ｵﾚ一人で木ノ葉の全員を殺りたいからな　?鷹?の前ではそう言っただけだ」
Sasuke- "No. I want to slaughter all of Konoha myself. I only said that in front of "Hawk"."

「それは本当か？あれだけの生き様を見せられてイタチの意志・・・守ろうとしたものを無にして いいと本気で そう思えるのか？」
Madara- "Is that right? Even when shown what Itachi's life was about and knowing his will...you would bring what he attempted to protect for naught? Are your words truly what they claim to be?"

「アンタは言ったな　イタチがどうしてｵﾚを殺せなかったのか　イタチにとってオレの命は里よ りも重かった からだと」
Sasuke- "You said it yourself: Why didn't Itachi kill me? Answer: Because to Itachi, my life held more weight than the village itself."

「オレも同じだ・・・オレにとってイタチの命は里よりも重い・・・それだけのことだ」
Sasuke- "It's the same thing as far as I'm concerned. Itachi's life holds more weight for ME. That's all there is to it."

「・・・うちはを差別し！両親を兄弟に殺めさせ！そのイタチを追い込み　殺した上層部も！」
Sasuke- "****ing elders discriminated against the Uchiha, had brothers kill parents and drove Itachi to his death!"

「そして千手を慕う木ノ葉の連中も！　全てがクソの掃き溜めだ！　全てが復讐の対象だ！」
「・・・・」
Sasuke- "And Konoha, the ass-kissers to the Senju. Pieces of **** not fit for trash. All will be targets for my vengeance!


「オレを感情的に動くガキだとバカにするならそれでもいい　イタチの意志を受け入れるなどキレ イ事だ」
Sasuke- "It's fine if you take me as a fool being moved by his emotions. After all, inheriting Itachi's will would be such a beautiful thing."
(trans note: his sarcasm is flowing right off the page, lol)

「憎しみを知らぬ者どもの戯言だ　もしオレの生き様を否定するような奴らがいるならそいつらの 大切な人間を 片っ端から殺してやる！」
Sasuke- "It just amounts to verbal diarrhea, coming from those who know nothing about hatred. If there are any who would deny a life such as mine, let's see them when every last one of their loved ones are killed off!"

「そうすれば少しは理解するだろう・・・このオレの憎しみを」
Sasuke- "Then, maybe, just maybe... they'd begin to comprehend my hate."

「・・・（人は愛情を知ったとき・・・憎しみのリスクを背負う）」
...(The capacity for hate is always present for those who have known love)...

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「約束どおり八尾はつれてきた」
"We brought the 8-tails as you requested."

「よくやったなお前ならやれると信じていた・・どこへ行く?」
Madara-"Well done. I believed the job would get done if it was you. Where are (you) going?"

「まずは傷を癒す　それから・・・　木　ノ　葉　だ　」
Sasuke-"It's time to heal up our wounds. Then...Konoha.

もわもわもわーん
Hmhmhmhmmmmmm

回想スタート
Start: Flashback

 

[konoha s beautiful beast]

what a heck R U talking guys.there will be no war.this is ballshit.raikage is not that stupid.cloud ninjas saw the akatsuki forms on "howk".they know howk is not from konoha.there's no reason for a war against vilages.it will only pain who will envade konoha.heh...open your eyes wide guys

 

[Sasuke Uzumaki]

Sasuke spent the last like 3 years with orochimaro and orochimaro became his closest friend which is why sasuke was going to kill naruto cause naruto was no longer his closest friend. That was also why sasuke just kept sasuke sealed in himself instead of actually killing orochimaro. i am saying i think sasuke got MS From orochimaro. Then after that itachi did the weird transfer thing. If he could transfer Ameratsu just by touching him then i think you can like transfer your eyes in much the same way and gives the same effect as actually transplanting

at least this is what i think

I think Sasuke tried to kill naruto because 1 - He had Oro's seal which made him have an urge to kill, and 2 - he may have felt pissed of about Naruto and Sakura not wanting him to revenge the murder of the clan.

He could not get MS from Oro, Sasuke did not killed Oro, just transferred him into his body.

 

[Koo]

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i think this is a typo but look down a few pannels it says... "the uchiha elders suspected an uchiha" and it shows the two elders and that dude whats his face i forget... leader of root or whatever

 

[ToadSageJiraiya]

how could that be a spoiler if the next chapters title was about the book naruto recieved

 

[Sasuke Uzumaki]

Can't Sasuke take a Sabbatical or retire? If this is the chapter, some boring dialogue with Madara that doesn't advance the story, then I'm far more interested in reading the fakes. I will wonder " What if...?" Nice work on getting them by the way.

you made me laugh with the sabbatical. Well, it seems fake to me because it has a lot of dialogue, and from Sasuke who tends to remain silent. I see no point in his having said that he would only kill the elders in front of Hawk.

.."the uchiha elders suspected an uchiha" and it shows the two elders and that dude whats his face i forget... leader of root or whatever

I remember! But in other translations it just read "the elders suspected an Uchiha". OK, it was since I saw that translation you mention that I suspect Danzou is an Uchiha (though sometimes I doubt about it).

 

[stigie78]

To answer your #1. comment, i think it cant be anything else but rasenshuriken. Let's do the process of elimination.

What can Naruto do now that he has more healing powers?

-Oodama Rasengan? Not really, he can do that any time, cept its tiring and useless.
-Kage Bunshin?? lol
-Some fox powers he has no clue how to use? definitely not because he looks determined about doing something, meaning he aims to accomplish an act he knows how to do, but could not do well before.
-Break more bones and get hurt more without much penalty? definitely! but thats not really applicable to the context of what he was saying.

In my opinion, even if i missed something, i definitely think it has to be Rasenshuriken, because it hurt him so badly that he could not use it ever again, very sad after all he went through to get it and the fact that its a Class S+++(impossible to attain) jutsu that has not been done by anyone else ever. Yeah, i think he wants to do it again lol. And now he might be able to do it!

Pafrog: Sage techniques take the natural energy from the outside, so rather than becoming exausted, you actually recover more quickly.
N: Maybe now i can do it...
Pafrog: Do what?
N: Ugh, um.....nothing

Anywho, im new here and cant rly use this site too effectively, if someone wants to be my friend and show me the ropes, id really appreciate it

Welcome to the forum, i hope we might be of any help.
anyway i congratulate you for using such smart words (regardless some of us.lol).
yea it may be true naruto was referring to the rasenshuriken.
Again welcome

 

[Sasuke Uzumaki]

yea....i still say saskues plannin summin over madaras head.... wat sasuke say may be tru but its summin hes leavin out.... and oh yea.... now we have pein and sasuke headin to konoha... interestin...lol..

It's strange, however. Sasuke first said:
1 - that the object of Hawk is the complete and utter destruction of the leaf
2 - then that he would kill the upper tier
3 - now that he will kill everyone (if the spoiler is true)

But, at the same time, he cried when he had the Team 7 flashback!

So, 1 - has he gone absolutely mad and doesn't know what to do?
2 - is he tricking Madara? Maybe he says this to be able to go to Konoha at the same time as Pein.
3 - Does he want to revenge Konoha except Team 7?


OH, I'm so undecided about what to think!

 

[a thousand years of death]

got some spoilers

they sound ok. would be better if it included some more naruto and that book.

yh that raikage looks bad ass. can put mr. T to shame


rewatching the shippuuden episodes
i love it when hinata sees naruto its soo funny. just goes red and faints and everyone still doesnt know why OMG

i hope naruto and hinata end up getting together they look better together than sakura and naruto.

lol shino starts sulking when naruto doesnt recognise him lololol

 

[stigie78]

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i think this is a typo but look down a few pannels it says... "the uchiha elders suspected an uchiha" and it shows the two elders and that dude whats his face i forget... leader of root or whatever

I would say thats a matter of translation, bc in here:

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. says "The konoha elders suspect an uchiha was behind everyhing...".

So even though i dont think danzou is an uchiha; nobody knows the story behind him.

 

[Hikaru Yukiame]

PEOPLE HAVE YOU GUYS READ THE MANGA SPOILERS?! UGH NOW SASUKE SAYS THAT HE WANTS TO DESTROY EVERYONE IN KONAHA!
i want the old sasuke back. *cries in a corner*

 

[Sasuke Uzumaki]

Something I just read about the spoiler: it is uncertain if this is happening now (Sasu telling Madara that he will kill everyone) or if it is a flashback of his previous conversation with Madara

A flashback would explain that Sasu wanted to kill everyone but has changed his mind after remembering Team 7.

 

[NarutoWind]

coz i think i found last senju clan shinobi and in spoilers of manga 416 i read sasuke saying that he wants to destroy konoha and then go after senju clan if he finds any of them...

Not you man!
I was talkign to SAKumono!
Your good bud!
You posted right before I did so it looked liek I was talkign to you

 

[ssanimo]

right...........?
anyways from the spoiler pic the raikage looks like a beast and looks like the third
i thik a great war is coming and saskue may join pain the fight of konha
if thats true this manga could b over by january or febuary
think the goal is to have 50 volumes
and after this is done iam gunnaget dem all

going by what u said i take it u believe all that b.s sasuke was sayin in spoiler??? none of that sh*t is true! he just sayin that to madara.wow cannot believe you buy that sh*t.......not from u saku.......u should know better.........and end soon???? your nuts they will milk as long as they can.....atleast another year....i mean u think all the unanswer ?'s goona get anserwed that quik in 6 months? thats 24 manga chap assuming no jap holiday's/kishi no worky time.....theres just no way

 

[SAKumono26]

Not you man!
I was talkign to SAKumono!
Your good bud!
You posted right before I did so it looked liek I was talkign to you

omg that whole thing was big whatever
so whatever again and don't tell me 2 control my attitude if idnot even give u attitude (done wit that shit )
anyways wat i was saying is the raikage may join an alliance with konoha
and well the earth village seem s really pissed off @ konoha styll who knows since tobi was mizukage or styll could be he could have other connections
its just a theory its not the truh so calm urselves Damn
so my theory is it would
be konha with sand village and lighting village v.s rain village , hidden mist
possibly hiidden earth and whatever villages tobi has connections with
and well the sound village is under kabutos control he may form and alliance with 1 of the groups and the backstab them later on
THAT IS MY THEORY AND PREDICTION I DON'T KNOW IF ITS TRU OR NOT ALL IAM ASKING IS 2 CONSIDER THE POSSIBLITY THATS IT

going by what u said i take it u believe all that b.s sasuke was sayin in spoiler??? none of that sh*t is true! he just sayin that to madara.wow cannot believe you buy that sh*t.......not from u saku.......u should know better.........and end soon???? your nuts they will milk as long as they can.....atleast another year....i mean u think all the unanswer ?'s goona get anserwed that quik in 6 months? thats 24 manga chap assuming no jap holiday's/kishi no worky time.....theres just no way

UHHH NO because i am talking about volumes u know how volume 27 kakshi gaiden
and well i was just talking i read saskues spoilers and i don't know when this manga is gunna end all i am sayin is once this is over i am buying the volumes thats wat i meant
and the spoilers r true
lastly kishi is unpredictable ..................

 

[platinum69]

Something I just read about the spoiler: it is uncertain if this is happening now (Sasu telling Madara that he will kill everyone) or if it is a flashback of his previous conversation with Madara

A flashback would explain that Sasu wanted to kill everyone but has changed his mind after remembering Team 7.

WOW it seems like this weeks manga is going to be really Awesome.

 

[SAKumono26]

WOW it seems like this weeks manga is going to be really Awesome.

i know eh gunna see saskues tru nature
but it was before he attecked the tails beast
right there and then he though of team 7 again

Something I just read about the spoiler: it is uncertain if this is happening now (Sasu telling Madara that he will kill everyone) or if it is a flashback of his previous conversation with Madara

A flashback would explain that Sasu wanted to kill everyone but has changed his mind after remembering Team 7.

it was exactly wat i had in mind great job homey

 

[ssanimo]

omg that whole thing was big whatever
so whatever again and don't tell me 2 control my attitude if idnot even give u attitude (done wit that shit )
anyways wat i was saying is the raikage may join an alliance with konoha
and well the earth village seem s really pissed off @ konoha styll who knows since tobi was mizukage or styll could be he could have other connections
its just a theory its not the truh so calm urselves Damn
so my theory is it would
be konha with sand village and lighting village v.s rain village , hidden mist
possibly hiidden earth and whatever villages tobi has connections with
and well the sound village is under kabutos control he may form and alliance with 1 of the groups and the backstab them later on
THAT IS MY THEORY AND PREDICTION I DON'T KNOW IF ITS TRU OR NOT ALL IAM ASKING IS 2 CONSIDER THE POSSIBLITY THATS IT



UHHH NO because i am talking about volumes u know how volume 27 kakshi gaiden
and well i was just talking i read saskues spoilers and i don't know when this manga is gunna end all i am sayin is once this is over i am buying the volumes thats wat i meant
and the spoilers r true
lastly kishi is unpredictable ..................

yea im pretty sure spoiler is "real" what sasuke says in spoiler is "bullsh*t" LoL he s just playin madara usin the game itachi used on him....... illusions w/o genjutsu LoL

u know make him believe what he wants him too..sasuke still has 2 goals remember? #1 on the list is killing madara....although it seems he might not be buyin it as well..
sasuke was pourin it on pretty dam thick there at end

and yea a few spoilers i read said "flashback ends" at bottom would also explain why all that is stuffed onto 2 pages

 

[platinum69]

i know eh gunna see saskues tru nature
but it was before he attecked the tails beast
right there and then he though of team 7 again

To right bro!!

I think deep inside Susake is a big softy... He will protect Kohona and defend Itachis Honor at the sametime.