Naruto Kyubi Relationship

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I have already posted this in the 538 discussion, but I wanted to re post as a thread to see what you all think of my guess, and to hear other theories along with mine.
It's a Good chapter (the flashback was significant but should have been shorter) like everyones saying Kyubi and Naruto talk was opening of a relationship, now with everyone saying the kyubi is ready to be good I wouldnt go that far it wants to bear Narutos hatred, but think, the kyubi has lots its chakra and is feeding off Narutos chakra which definently has goody too shoes save the world in it, it's purifying the fox the fox wants to bear Naruto's hatred not really for Naruto (though he acts like it sneaky @$$) but because it needs the hatred so it doesnt become good, Narutos chakra will be the finishing blow to the kyubi in my opinion. It will finally open up to good and will cooperate with Narutos if not for just goodness then out of fear because if Naruto gets killed the kyubis done too. Plus Kyubi definently would Naruto > Madara. Though I really do hope they become close like Habichi and Bee where they get total synch. I believe when they to finally get on the same page and cooperative the Nine Tails will share the big secret with Naruto. Madaras weaknesses after all don't forget the fox was there when Madara got beaten my Hashirama. Also I do believe besides any other motives the fox has he does have some new found respect from Naruto, and wouldn't have to much of a problem with becoming friendly and in synch with one of the greatest living Ninjas, it would honestly only build the Kyubis on it's reputation it would gain more respect and awe as Naruto progressed. Let me know what you think people
 

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I have already posted this in the 538 discussion, but I wanted to re post as a thread to see what you all think of my guess, and to hear other theories along with mine.
It's a Good chapter (the flashback was significant but should have been shorter) like everyones saying Kyubi and Naruto talk was opening of a relationship, now with everyone saying the kyubi is ready to be good I wouldnt go that far it wants to bear Narutos hatred, but think, the kyubi has lots its chakra and is feeding off Narutos chakra which definently has goody too shoes save the world in it, it's purifying the fox the fox wants to bear Naruto's hatred not really for Naruto (though he acts like it sneaky @$$) but because it needs the hatred so it doesnt become good, Narutos chakra will be the finishing blow to the kyubi in my opinion. It will finally open up to good and will cooperate with Narutos if not for just goodness then out of fear because if Naruto gets killed the kyubis done too. Plus Kyubi definently would Naruto > Madara. Though I really do hope they become close like Habichi and Bee where they get total synch. I believe when they to finally get on the same page and cooperative the Nine Tails will share the big secret with Naruto. Madaras weaknesses after all don't forget the fox was there when Madara got beaten my Hashirama. Also I do believe besides any other motives the fox has he does have some new found respect from Naruto, and wouldn't have to much of a problem with becoming friendly and in synch with one of the greatest living Ninjas, it would honestly only build the Kyubis on it's reputation it would gain more respect and awe as Naruto progressed. Let me know what you think people
am the fox wasn't there when he fought hashirama it was already in his wife ( his wife was first host) and further more the hashirama cannot control the fox as in tell it wat to do only madara can do that! hashirama only can supress the fox powers ( control and supress is 2 different things) why do people not understand this!
 
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I said nothing in my post what so ever about Hashirama controlling the fox bro, and while I will admit I forgot it was in his wife the fox was still there and did witness it the beast within the jinchuriki sees all its host does, The fox constantly tells Naruto about how he's been watching him the fox is within the host therefore can see all the host can.
 

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I said nothing in my post what so ever about Hashirama controlling the fox bro, and while I will admit I forgot it was in his wife the fox was still there and did witness it the beast within the jinchuriki sees all its host does, The fox constantly tells Naruto about how he's been watching him the fox is within the host therefore can see all the host can.[/QUOTE


and how do you know his wife was there watching the battle? where in the managa does it say they were spectators watching them fight?
 
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I actually did expect you to say that, but It leaves you in the same position as me. She was there at the fight in the first place for sure because Madara had the fox with him when they fought and Hashirama suppressed in and then sealed in his wife, or she sealed in herself whichever. Now whether she left or stayed afterward is not said, but its 50/50 my point is just as valid as yours. But my reasoning behind her still being there is she would be drained from just being having it sealed in, and would probably not be ready for travel, and if she was What makes us think Madara who has his ultimate space time jutsu would allow her to flee with his most powerful asset he would definently have not allowed it, he lost to Hashirama yes but he says he did it for tactical reasons (attaining the Hashirama cells) now letting the nine tails just go doesn't sound tactical at all to me.
 

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I actually did expect you to say that, but It leaves you in the same position as me. She was there at the fight in the first place for sure because Madara had the fox with him when they fought and Hashirama suppressed in and then sealed in his wife, or she sealed in herself whichever. Now whether she left or stayed afterward is not said, but its 50/50 my point is just as valid as yours. But my reasoning behind her still being there is she would be drained from just being having it sealed in, and would probably not be ready for travel, and if she was What makes us think Madara who has his ultimate space time jutsu would allow her to flee with his most powerful asset he would definently have not allowed it, he lost to Hashirama yes but he says he did it for tactical reasons (attaining the Hashirama cells) now letting the nine tails just go doesn't sound tactical at all to me.
Nah man ur wrong again! madara attacked konoha twice with the fox! the first time he attacked that's when hashirama took the fox from his control and that's how it got seal in his wife! then they fought and after that madara attack with the fox again and the 4th stopped him! go read the managa some more, madara himself also said this in the anime!!
 

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Also hashirama don't need to seal tailed beasts to suppress their power it was said he had all of them and then started distributing them to other villages! wat u think he has all 9 jinjuriki ? no he use his wood shit to suppress their powers and them give them away and then people in the villages start seal them inside people so they could use their powers!!
 

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also i didn't say your theory was wrong i was just commenting on the hashirama part! its obvious the fox knows a lot of stuff about madara and the sage of six paths since he immediately recognize it when naruto went into fox mode for the first time!
and it was repeated in the manga tons that the fox is just a big mass of hatred!! so obviously this poses a threat to him if naruto is trying to get rid of all the hatred in the ninja world!!
 

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i think rikoudo sage left more of his power in the fox becoze its full of hatred so the one who will overcome that hatred would be the successor of the rikoudo sage becoze u gonna have a pure heart in order to overcome the kyubii hatred and i also think naruto is not gonna syncronize with the fox becoze madara needs the fox and even if we took the fox from naruto he aint gonna die 1 becoze he is an uzumaki,2 the fox chakra is in a different place unlike killerbee, 3 the fox chakra is full of life energy so it means if the fox is taken he could still have the fox chakra inside him and no risk for using it. what u guys think and dude your theory is awsome and the fox was there when madara fought hashirama it was madara who used the fox.
 

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i think rikoudo sage left more of his power in the fox becoze its full of hatred so the one who will overcome that hatred would be the successor of the rikoudo sage becoze u gonna have a pure heart in order to overcome the kyubii hatred and i also think naruto is not gonna syncronize with the fox becoze madara needs the fox and even if we took the fox from naruto he aint gonna die 1 becoze he is an uzumaki,2 the fox chakra is in a different place unlike killerbee, 3 the fox chakra is full of life energy so it means if the fox is taken he could still have the fox chakra inside him and no risk for using it. what u guys think and dude your theory is awsome and the fox was there when madara fought hashirama it was madara who used the fox.
lol u guys have interesting theories but do u read the manga before making these theories?

first of all madara already has the fox chakra in his possession he got it from gin and kin and he also has one of the 8 tails chakra! this was said in a recent manga! so even if madara doesn't get naruto he still has what he needs! he doesnt need the fox it self just the chakra! why do u think they waste so much time to extract chakra from jinjurikis?

so the only thing madara needs now is 7 more tails of chakra from killer bee!
also if the fox is ripped from naruto like it was ripped from kushina he will die, this was also said in the manga, only thing is he wont die right away! remeber madara said this to kushina! because she was uzumaki she didn't die right away but she would die eventually which is why she wanted to absorb back the fox and die with it inside her but minato stopped her!!
 
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I have read the manga yea, and actually tou may have a point on me I have been digging back but can really find could you tell me around the chapters where madara talks about him controlling the fox? And yea he is right there bro, Naruto if he lost the fox may live because of other shit but if no one helped him or nothing hidden came out he would die just a prologned death. Also yes I have said that he doesnt need Narutos fox chakra for the longest check out my thread Jubi revived and Naruto still keep his beast, also check out the Other Rinnegan it is a good guess for how Madara will pull of lacking all that Nine Tails Chakra.
 

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I have read the manga yea, and actually tou may have a point on me I have been digging back but can really find could you tell me around the chapters where madara talks about him controlling the fox? And yea he is right there bro, Naruto if he lost the fox may live because of other shit but if no one helped him or nothing hidden came out he would die just a prologned death. Also yes I have said that he doesnt need Narutos fox chakra for the longest check out my thread Jubi revived and Naruto still keep his beast, also check out the Other Rinnegan it is a good guess for how Madara will pull of lacking all that Nine Tails Chakra.
madara was telling sasuke about the history of the uchiha and in that u could see flashbacks when madara first attacked with the fox! how do u think the 4th knew it was madara when he attack the second time cause it was common knowledge that only madara can control it!
 

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He didn't know man he told Naruto said it straight up there was a mysterious guy wearing a mask he said was manipulating the fox, and he didn't know anymore about it.
lol! the 4th asked him ( that guy in the mask if he was madara) the 4th knew but he wasn't sure the 4th is not one to jump to conclusions especially about a guy who is supposed to be dead!

and then the 4th said it doesnt matter if he was madara or not but that he must be stopped! so i guess it would be best to say the 4th suspected that it was madara! but he had no proof!
 
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