Naruto Kyubi Relationship

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Manga 440 this is what your talking about and he doesn't say or ask if it was Madara he just says he's unfathomably strong, and it would take special abilities to beat him and that he's almost positive he's giving orders even to pain.
 

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Nope! lol im talking about manga 502! the 4th explicitly asked him if he was madara! go look! i link you

 
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Alright haha I'm getting served back and forth, but prove me wrong again if I am but I don't remember the Manga stating he attacked the leaf, he challenged the first hokage and had the fox with him and Hashirama suppresed it during the fight then his wife got it and then Madara was beaten correct me if I'm wrong and mixing up the Manga please if I am.
 

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Alright haha I'm getting served back and forth, but prove me wrong again if I am but I don't remember the Manga stating he attacked the leaf, he challenged the first hokage and had the fox with him and Hashirama suppresed it during the fight then his wife got it and then Madara was beaten correct me if I'm wrong and mixing up the Manga please if I am.
i don't remember if he stated it in the manga but he stated it in the anime! and i'm not sure if when he attacked the first time that they fought immediately after, who knows. but it doesn't matter if people witnessed the fight or not! like i said i wasn't disagreeing with ur theory i was just commenting on hashirama part of it!
 
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I got that but if the Hashirama part changes then who can tell Naruto of Madaras weaknesses puts a hole in it, and I mean Madara maybe flash us back some of his private battle memories but he won't expose any weaknesses to anyone I just think the Hashirama part has to be right to some degree because Nine tails seems likely canidate to tell naruto about the battle, and Madara weaknesses.
 

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am konan already figured out how madara's technique works! and if she can figure it out i'm sure sasuke will figure it out ( we all know in the end sasuke and naruto gonna team up to beat him) lol! plus everyone in the konoha village knows how pain's eye powers work since they fought him so that is not an issue only issue is his other sharingan which like i said if konan figure it out sasuke will too!

also kabuto is there lurking around and leading hidden leaf people to where madara hide out is! if he see that madara gonna kill him no doubt he will spill the beans!!

kabuto trying to get madara out of the way too! and this is also my theory but its common sense to anyone who watches naruto! sasuke is jus hanging around with madara to gain power and figure out how to kill him since he can't do so now!
 
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Well yea for power, but also because he wants to destroy the leaf and Madara can help him do that, and The space time jutsu has never been shown to be linked to his sharingan, Madara is very old space time jutsu may have been an old forgotten technique with them back then, and his sharingan izangi Sasuke already knows that but EMS holds more secrets we don't know we've never seen anyone show the new power you gain with EMS or use it to full power yet.
 

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Well yea for power, but also because he wants to destroy the leaf and Madara can help him do that, and The space time jutsu has never been shown to be linked to his sharingan, Madara is very old space time jutsu may have been an old forgotten technique with them back then, and his sharingan izangi Sasuke already knows that but EMS holds more secrets we don't know we've never seen anyone show the new power you gain with EMS or use it to full power yet.
of course his space time ninjutsu is linked to his sharingan why do u think he still has his sharingan? would you discard a power like that? you can see in the anime clearly that he uses his sharingan for it! and plus any other space time ninjutsu would require hand signs or seals and i don't see him using any, why do you think there was only one eye hole in his mask?
cause that eye is all he ever uses!

i dont know about his ems thought mabe this space time ninjutsu is from his ems who knows we need more info from manga to talk about that!!
 

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I have already posted this in the 538 discussion, but I wanted to re post as a thread to see what you all think of my guess, and to hear other theories along with mine.
It's a Good chapter (the flashback was significant but should have been shorter) like everyones saying Kyubi and Naruto talk was opening of a relationship, now with everyone saying the kyubi is ready to be good I wouldnt go that far it wants to bear Narutos hatred, but think, the kyubi has lots its chakra and is feeding off Narutos chakra which definently has goody too shoes save the world in it, it's purifying the fox the fox wants to bear Naruto's hatred not really for Naruto (though he acts like it sneaky @$$) but because it needs the hatred so it doesnt become good, Narutos chakra will be the finishing blow to the kyubi in my opinion. It will finally open up to good and will cooperate with Narutos if not for just goodness then out of fear because if Naruto gets killed the kyubis done too. Plus Kyubi definently would Naruto > Madara. Though I really do hope they become close like Habichi and Bee where they get total synch. I believe when they to finally get on the same page and cooperative the Nine Tails will share the big secret with Naruto. Madaras weaknesses after all don't forget the fox was there when Madara got beaten my Hashirama. Also I do believe besides any other motives the fox has he does have some new found respect from Naruto, and wouldn't have to much of a problem with becoming friendly and in synch with one of the greatest living Ninjas, it would honestly only build the Kyubis on it's reputation it would gain more respect and awe as Naruto progressed. Let me know what you think people
killing naruto will only mean the kyuubi will be revived shortly after.
Also with the way naruto is acting now he dosen't deserve the kyuubi's power. Why the hell would he use the kyuubi's chakra just to run fast and as a candle light? Naruto needs to calm the hell down. Oh an yeh i to think naruto's bitcho-goodness chakra is affecting the kyuubi to
 

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For me I have always believed that the Kyuubi is not evil & my theory has always been that he is balance. Because it is said that when the Kyuubi appears is in times of hatred. Now you can view that because the Kyuubi is evil he comes out when there's hatred. Or & my theory is he comes to restore balance. & this chapter & Kyuubi's talk with Naruto makes me think I am right. Because I think when Kyuubi is talking to Naruto about carrying the burden of trying to bring peace he's talking from experience. & I think that's his whole reason for existing. & the reason why he's pissed off is because he's never found the answer to stop the hatred. But I think the Kyuubi will realize his answer lies with Naruto.
 
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