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@bold:are you referring to dimensional travel or storing chakra? I don't remember dimensional travel via Momo's Rinne
Naruto is not IMMUNE to IT
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Did you ever ask yourself how Momoshiki travels across the Universe? How they transported Naruto to another dimension after capturing him? How they can even come to Earth in the first place?
Strangely enough, even Kinshiki has some type of Kamui-like portal. :/
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I did and I concluded it's an unknown phenomenon at the moment. I also think it's likely connected to the Rinnegan since all the dimension hoplers have an MS, Rinnegan and Rinne Sharingan in common. Having said that there's nothing definite yet in one way the Limbo clones are cross dimensional as well and they too originate from the Rinnegan however nothing is definite yet.
As for Kin's power perhaps it's related to the chakra fruit pills and indirectly yo the Rinnegan/chakra fruit.
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Youre denying rsm will get rekt by IT - kishimoto words.As I said learn to read and understand the context instead of looking like a fool....
I will.
Sasuke is not Otsutsuki. Momoshiki has connection to kaguya portal automatically because of his lineage. Without being inherently connected to her dimension you cant open it - Obito words. Which proves sasukes is a copypasted ability. Sasuke has to close ems eye to open portal metaphorically implying he needs adding extra three tomoes to rinnegan 6 tomoes creating rinnesharingan. Zetsu called it HIS RINNEgan. Not Rinnegan generally meaning theres a difference. If zetsu thought mere rinnegan could tank IT he wouldnt be surprised. Hagoromo had a greater rinnegan yet he didnt defeat IT.
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No dude. According to the Anime, Sasuke learned the secret to opening the portals by the information Naruto gave him about the Nue/Danzou almost replicating Kaguya's technique.
[video=youtube;Z_LeUclXwpY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_LeUclXwpY[/video]
It appears to be that Sasuke learned how to do it from extensive research.
There's only one answer: They have a S/T ability.
Unless you can give us a reason how two aliens can travel across space/time without being able to open portals of some kind.
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Ive added more detail in my previous post.
The fact they're aliens automatically removes them from being subject to human parameters. However I accept it's a S/T jutsu it would be pretty foolish to deny such a thing for a number of reasons.
Anyway the edited post makes my beliefs clear on the matter read over it when you get a chance.
I agree with what your saying on both accounts.
They aren't humans, but I never judged them as such to begin with. Kaguya is an Alien, but she needs a S/T to travel between Worlds/dimensions. So anyone who travels between worlds, would obviously need a S/T.
The correlation is either the Rinnegan, or the Otsutsuki themselves. But Kaguya doing it (has the Rinnegan), Momoshiki probably has one (has a Rinnegan as well).... Points to it being Dojutsu related more than anything else.
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Well how can 'extensive research' alone accomplishing it? Sasuke shouldve the means to apply such a jutsu practically right? He got the method how to do it from the source you stated, doesnt mean his tomoe Rinnegan has no role to do with it. Think about it, Madara awakened Rinnegan in two eyes. Why didnt Sasuke awaken like that. Because his eye is erroneously Rinnesharingan. Madara called it 'one-eyed Rinnegan' at one point of time. Its just like Hashirama didnt have RSM and Madara didnt have tomoe eyes. Hagoromo gave Asura and Indra's inheritance to naruto and sasuke in its entirety. Its heavily implicated as such, he closes his EMS to open portal to Kaguya's dimension. Such is not possible with any other eye. Obito claimed Amenominaka is a similar jutsu to his Kamui whichs why he could bypass its spaces by resonating his kamui with her jutsu when her portal opens. Even In Naruto Game, it is called Rinne-sharingan. I think the implication is clear.
Theoretically they could be used on their own, but it wouldn't work. Here's why
1. Using God: Nativity of a World of Trees without using IT first wouldn't work as people could still fight back, unless they were old/kids or something, but then again this jutsu specifically targets all people around the entire world. There's also the fact that it was never confirmed if it can affect people not trapped in genjutsu. The only time we saw it begin used, it only went after victims. Team 7 was not in the genjutsu, thus they weren't targeted, even after Susanoo came down.
2. There's the fact that once trapped in IT and already wrapped by the god tree, by cutting the victims loose neither wakes them up, nor frees them from the tree, as another branch will simply form and imprison them once again. To free them from 2nd jutsu, you actually need to stop the 1st jutsu - IT, only then branches from 2nd jutsu will give up and wither away. As you can see these 2 are connected.
3. Even the god tree itself has a Rinnesharingan, which can be used to cast IT, further more showing these 2 are connected and meant to be used together.
You're ignoring what I said about IT =/= any other genjutsu and repeating yourself.
As I explained about Edo's - this genjutsu was created for a specific reason. It aims only for living, because only living victims can be turned into zetsu's. This jutsu was specifically made in order to allow the god tree to freerly reclaim it's chakra and turn living victims into zetsu's. IT is meant to be used a supplementary jutsu for God: Nativity of a World of Trees, so it naturally follows the rules and mechanisms of Shin: Jukai Kōtan which is used after.
Actually for using IT alone, you're probably right, I don't see any contraindications. Yet there's 1 more thing, we don't know the origins of IT, but we know that there was no edo tensei back then, when IT was first createad. You may say but Sharingan genjutsu works on Edo's and Sharingan also existed before creating Edo Tensei, yet as we already know the fundamentals and mechanisms of IT are already much different from any other genjutsu. Maybe it doesn't make sense why would a superior genjutsu not affect something lesser genjutsu does, but I can't help it, that's how it was made.
Lmfao more escapist rhetoric from the one that truly made himself look like a fool, eh? I love the simultaneous concessions that occurred in both threads, that’s almost unheard of.As I said learn to read and understand the context instead of looking like a fool....
I will.
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Lmao. You say the same thing to everyone out here am I right ? I remember you saying this to another member here, the same exact dialogues. Replenish said dialogues thats all I can say to you for now. Anyways you did dodge the point and you couldnt refute anything Ive claimed which means I'm correct as I expected always.
I hear ya and completely agree. They're clearly mean't to be used together and using them separately on their own is definitely possible, but it wouldn't make sense given the user's goal. We don't know much about IT, just the basics. If only the Author expanded on it, but then again he was pressed for time and had to quickly wrap things up.
It's referred as a Rinnegan and it will remain as such. It's special thanks to Hago.
Only one bringing fanfic here is you.
Which arc?
Hashi was the strongest of his ERA.
In Sasuke's ERA, he said that "he himself" was the strongest, yet got proven wrong.
If you still can't figure it out, I'll gladly provide scans regarding Sasuke.
I can see that.
Where did I claim he did? Provide the quotes in which I said that, otherwise you're making things up again to protect your baseless and flawed statements.
And where did I say he's immune? You keep spouting this nonsense and can't even provide a single quote in which I said that.
Yes, keep repeating the same skewed logic and I'll keep shutting you down.
And?
BZ said that with Totsuka and Yata, Itachi is basically invincible. Learn to read. Anyway Aids solos. :lol
Clearly.
Damn you must be on something to type such foolish sentences. Where am I claiming that anime characters have a life or that they have a mind of their own?
I will, don't you worry about that.
How many times do I have to repeat this to your dull mind?
I don't claim he's immune nor that he can resist IT in some way, because I can't prove it.
In the same way you can't prove that he isn't immune or that he can't resist IT in some way.
I don't claim he's immune nor that he can resist IT in some way, because I can't prove it.
In the same way you can't prove that he isn't immune or that he can't resist IT in some way.
No, just your lack of comprehension skills.
There's IT and there's God: Nativity of a World of Trees.
God: Nativity of a World of Trees is what turns people to Zetsu's.
This just shows how little you know about the subject.
He's telling a story that he created. It's not First Person View as you're claiming it to be.
Link interview saying Naruto won't resist.
Excuse, excuses, all just to put Sakura's PIS feat in a better light. :lol
Yes she broke the not so durable horn and merely pushed her downwards. Bravo.
Where is this stated?
You clearly do. That's all you've been spouting.
She was falling down. The Susanoo was falling apart when Kakashi left it.
At best she jumped out of Susanoo before it disappeared and from there it was gravity.
Only one bringing fanfic here is you.
Still stuck in fanfic land I see. And no, she can't even best an RSM clone. :th:
Naruto>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sakura.
Okay?
It couldn't be done in their time.
Naruto and Sasuke showed powers that Ashura nor Indra displayed.
You know it.
Yet you can't prove it. Just assumptions.
He tried to take Naruto out like he did the Kages and failed to do so.
You made that clear.
Only one bringing fanfic here is you.
That's what I've been doing, but it falls on deaf ears, you're a testament of that.
Yes, you've used fanfics instead of facts.
Didn't claim he didn't. More assumptions on your part.
Only one bringing fanfic here is you.
Where does it state that that was the reason?
^All of this yet nothing to back it up. More excuses.
Where did I make such a claim?
Take a screen shot of my quote and post it. Otherwise this is another one of your foolish made up statements.
Seriously, I'm giving you a chance to prove yourself, yet you're not taking it, thus making yourself out to be a liar.
No, no really.
Prove it, oh wait you can't. XD
That's right, you've got none.
Agreed.
Nope, try again.
Go ahead keep repeating this twisted logic of yours and I'll keep factually shutting it down.
Don't have to, since you can't prove he gets rekt by IT.
Naruto and Sasuke broke IT. So why are you excluding Sasuke from that question? He had help(Naruto).
Still, I don't claim for Naruto to be immune.
You keep doing that to yourself. It's hilarious.
Only one bringing fanfic here is you.
Only one bringing fanfic here is you.
Itachi admits this himself :
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Itachi can't escape ET unless he does what Madara did which he didn't. If Koto didn't free him, what did? Not himself(without Koto) that's for sure, so what did he lie about?
Only one conceding here is you for the lack of proof of all of your claims, despite me asking for them time and time again.
Only one bringing fanfic here without facts is you.
Yet you can't prove that.
They don't have to, they just have to accept reality. Which is this :
No one can prove that IT affects or doesn't affect Naruto or that he isn't/is capable of defending himself from IT.
Given your rep here, your word holds no weight.
Funny considering you do.
It's the truth. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No, not really.
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Hagoromo calls it Sasukes rinnegan specifically not the rinnegan generally.
Indra and Asura era. BZ thought there is no power which can resist it. Only sasuke has a new set of power which is the one eyed rinnegan. Naruto has same rsm which asura had. If he knew any one of thier powers were resistant to tsukiyomi he wouldnt be surprised.
Keep contradicting yourself and keep claiming hes immune then say 'you cant prove he isnt'. BZ never literally stated yata plys totsuka makes him invincible like sasuke stated. Therefore i can twist it like you do for naruto not being effected by tsukuyomi and i'll keep doing it. Prove he isnt. Also prove kamui will work, until then itachi is immune to kamui. Because obito was scared.
Which is why you seperate character statements and claim theyre assumptions when director wont say anything through a character without meaning. Can your little IQ prove what he said was false?
If you arent claiming such then naruto is rekt by IT dont you think? Lol. What a IQ less BS Nativity of trees are indeed ones converting zetsu when dif I say its not the one doing that? Contradicting your little IQ again I was stating it generally as its what follows through and thats the very purpose the technique's used in the first place. Naruto rekt by IT if you dont think hes immune lol.
Its first person view as Kakashi could know the size of moon without going there ever in his life. Director conveys somethings which seems illogical but somehow the character knows it. Statements stated with surety are first person view in stone. Otherwise theyd say probably possibly.
Bring interview saying hes immune otherwise yourself's IQ wont prove anything lol. Keep denying facts.
Sakura punched her with enough speed that sasuke and naruto were in thier initial position after the kaguya fell back in thier sealing posture.
Gravity works same for everyone so by your low IQ logic a genin falling with gravity is impossible for kaguya to dodge. Proving sakuras speed and power greater than naruto lol.
Kaguya lost chakra shifting dimensions while was full power when sakura hit her.
Dont you remember sasuke deflectingbeesswordby sending lightning chakra through his body. Chakra is used to increase power hardness speed etc cera. Its clear from the fact even a bit better chakra kaguya was completely unbruised by his rsm punch and completely unaffected by shuriken bijuus. Sakura>>>>>naruto
Yet that little weak clone got blitzed the moment juubi arms came out the onlyonetododge it was sakura.
Sakura>>>naruto.
What power does naruto have which asura didnt have? Asura had rsm as seen in flashback. Indra didnt have tomor rinnegan as hagoromo didnt share power with him that time.
That yourself has little brittle IQ I know ofcourse.You know it.
Sasuke statement. Yours is full assumptions lol.
Yourself's little IQ never fails to amaze me. Momoshiki held back against naruto because he wanted him alive to remake his chakra fruit.
Naruto gets rekt by IT. Kishimoto said so. Rsm has zero counters and you yourself saying hes not immune so he gets rekt.That's what I've been doing, but it falls on deaf ears, you're a testament of that.
Yes, you've used fanfics instead of facts.
Didn't claim he didn't. More assumptions on your part.
Only one bringing fanfic here is you.
Where does it state that that was the reason?
^All of this yet nothing to back it up. More excuses.
Where did I make such a claim?
Take a screen shot of my quote and post it. Otherwise this is another one of your foolish made up statements.
Seriously, I'm giving you a chance to prove yourself, yet you're not taking it, thus making yourself out to be a liar.
No, no really.
Prove it, oh wait you can't. XD
That's right, you've got none.
Agreed.
Nope, try again.
Go ahead keep repeating this twisted logic of yours and I'll keep factually shutting it down.
Don't have to, since you can't prove he gets rekt by IT.
Naruto and Sasuke broke IT. So why are you excluding Sasuke from that question? He had help(Naruto).
Still, I don't claim for Naruto to be immune.
Itachi also said jiraiya can beat akatsuki and madara killed izuna for MS. All untrue. Give me other characters statement or your fanfic will not be accepted by anyone. No ones gonna take your word over it. The mangas word is absolute.
Theres no way something of kotos caliber which is weak must be used by itachi when he has higher and much more lethal genjutsu in his arsenal.
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Concession accepted from yourself. Your conceding over lack of facts over and over again lol. Yourr claiming narutoll get rekt by IT completely unegotiatably lol. Go prove something/stop stating things right out of your little BS IQ lol Sasuke told naruto has no defense with exclamation mark which means no defense for naruto in terms of IT powered genjutsu lol. Completely unresistable genjutsu for narutos caliber this is. Only unique RINNESHARINGAN dojutsu can even resist it. That with SusanoO and wings implemented.
Everyone has referred Sasuke's Rinnegan as a "Rinnegan".
You have no proof that Naruto has the same RSM which Ashura had. Also discussing Ashura and Indra's era is pointless, because IT could not be implemented at that time.
Only one contradicting themselves is you.
Do you have amnesia? I didn't claim for him to be immune.
That's right and you can't prove he is nor that he can't resist IT in some way.
Oh really?
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I'm not twisting anything. That's all you. Keep doing it though, I'll keep shutting you down.
Prove he is, oh wait, you can't.
Prove Kamui won't work, until then Itachi isn't immune to Kamui.
No, no he wasn't.
Are you saying that assumptions don't exist in NV? :lol
There have been plenty of times where a character makes a statement, but was proven wrong.
Can your little to no IQ prove what he said wasn't false? Nope you can't? Why? Because the statement wasn't applied, it was merely an assumption.
Where is the proof though? There is none. So you can't say that he gets rekt by IT.
You said and I quote
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Basically claiming IT is what would turn them to Zetsu.
Fact check yourself next time or you'll continue getting owned like this.
Only one contradicting themselves is you.
Both techs can be used on their own if the user wants to.
Prove it. Wait, you can't. :lol
If it was First Person View, then Kishi himself would literally be in it. So logically that can't be applied here.
Bring interview saying he's not immune otherwise yourself's IQ won't prove anything.
I will, don't you worry.
Sakura was falling down. Naruto and Sasuke didn't have gravity to help them. Not to mention, Kaguya was going upwards away from them. Damn Sakura had all kinds of help just to land that PIS punch.
Yeah, if they're falling.
Obviously, your IQ is nothing compared to mines.
If it was just a genin and Kaguya, then Kaguya would easily dodge.
In Sakura's case, Kaguya was going upwards, all of her attention was on Naruto and Sasuke. All of the with the aid of gravity, Sakura got a hit in.
As I proved above, that isn't a testament of speed nor power in the slightest and no Sakura's speed nor power compare to Naruto's.
Stop talking as if it was Sakura vs Kaguya one on one. All Sakura did was break a horn that isn't any more durable than the horn Itachi cut from Kabuto.
Channeling chakra, yes?
The user has to initiate it first, beforehand. As seen with Sasuke, AY, Naruto, Bee etc etc
He did the most overall against Kaguya in the entire fight. Sakura did what? Oh yeah, break a horn. xd
Only in your fanfic dreams.
Canon :
Naruto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sakura.
Blitzed? The clone pushed Naruto and Sasuke out of the way.
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Sakura dodged nothing.
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^As you can see the Juubi arm was about to one shot her, but Kakashi saved her.
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Juubi hand never touched the ground until that moment.
Sakura dodged absolutely nothing. Nothing at all. She was saved.
Only in your fanfic dreams.
Canon :
Naruto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sakura.
All we saw from Ashura was his Ava. He didn't possess a cloak like Naruto nor did he showcase Bijuu KKG.
I agree.
Nope, only one full of assumptions is you. Sasuke statement ≠ Fact.
I have that effect on people.
He tried to take Naruto out like he did the Kages and failed to do so.
Prove it, oh wait you can't.
No he didn't. Just you making things up.
Yet no proof. Pity.
Fail logic.
No proof that he isn't immune or that he can't resist IT in some way.
Okay? This isn't the same as things happening in the manga. We "saw" for ourselves that Koto freed Itachi.
What fanfic? Manga is fanfic now? That MANGA page I provided is FANFIC?
Here's another MANGA page for ya.
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Only those who wish to deny the manga won't take my word for it
Yet here you are denying it. lmao.
Roflmao!!!!!!
Did you just call Koto weak? XD
Itachi certainly didn't think so.
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Only one conceding here is you.
Again all you buddy and it shows.
When did I claim that?
No one can prove that IT affects or doesn't affect Naruto or that he isn't/is capable of defending himself from IT.
That is what you should be telling yourself.
He doesn't know that, you don't know that, it can't be proved. Sorry to say. lol
Yet nothing to back it up. Shame.
Oh, but Sasuke's Rinnegan is not a RinneSharingan. :wut:
Now then if you don't want to be made out to be a butthurt, damage control childish liar with no purpose in life other than to troll and pass off delusional fanfics as facts, then prove these statements of yours, that you said I claimed :
Accused me of -
- Claiming Naruto is immune to IT. (Multiple Times)
- Claiming that anime characters have a life or that they have a mind of their own.
- Claiming Naruto being immune to IT, then saying no.
- Claiming Naruto'll get rekt by IT.
I'll wait.
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Every Rinnegan awakens in two eyes and has no tomoes. Its similar to how Kaguya rinnesharingan was addressed as Sharingan alone by Hagoromo we all know that is not true. Your IQ brittlety is laughable to say the least.
Its the same, Asura had the same cloak as he appeared behind naruto and in the flash back he had the same Kyuubi heads. What a IQ brittlelation this is. Sad asf.
Your IQ is sentient and brittlifying itself. Contradicting itself again and again, lol. Naruto is not immune to Infinite Tsukiyomi Sasuke States confidently with no assumption marks. I'll make sure to have IQ crushed lol
If hes not immune then he'll be caught against IT. Since we have three statements supporting it. So fanfic's trashIQ are not needed in the place of mangafacts.
naruto rekt by IT = Fact. He rekt by IT.
What does that prove? Literally nothing right IQbrittle? Show me a straight scan zetsu saying 'Itachi is invincible because of Yata and Totsuka's Sword. or concede on that RSM brittle clone getting trashstomped by Infinite Tsukuyomi, lol
Your twisting manga interpretations and twistin'g it's narratives and passing it off as fact's. No one cares for little alterified twisted fanfic's narratives which yourself writes in NB, lol
Why should I prove huh? Huh? Lol, it's your job to prove it, since your the one holding onto twisted context twirled fanfic's meaning here lol. You say if someone do not use certain technique in battle then the enemy is immune, Itachi is immune since Tobi did not use Kamui to rid off him. This is the thin brittle argument yourself has been using all along lolProve he is, oh wait, you can't.
Prove Kamui won't work, until then Itachi isn't immune to Kamui.
now youcan't prove it Huuuh?Which statement exactly huuuh? No statement in manga is false, deal with it, that brittle clonified RSM Avatar's gets utterly rekt by Infinite Tsukiyomi's Heavenly Light, lol
Zetsu implied Naruto is not immune. Naruto did not think he is immune despite possessing Knowledge of All Things - Proof #5 which gives yourself another L which yourself BrittleIQ has been recieving for a while. Naruto followed Sasuke's word's like a poor BS, sad He is not Immune he himself know's it, lol.Bold@: lol, yourself is masking off in a tangent yet again I see, sad. Overwhelming brittleness of self's IQ revealed
Sasuke's word is absolute and law. Naruto cannot prevent IT he was afraid. Take yourself's little desperate elsewhere. Sasuke states: 'You'll get caught Naruto'. Nuff said duh buh lol
Keep nitpicking each statement of mine which is directly stated in a context, which yourself's brittle poorIQ, has no
choice, but to strawman and grasp fanfic's from
IT rekts RSM Avatar's IQ get over it. Naruto = Vulnerable Me dealing with yourself's IQbrittled fanfic's and twisted narrative's. Naruto is not immune to IT I repeat and I'll keep repeating this until your fanfic's scullified logic shutted down
Eh what?
Kishimoto writes it that is proof enough. Its his will that no one create unnecessary fanfic's explanations on how Naruto survives this nuke of light trapping him in infinite dreamscapes. Prove it.....oh wait you can'tProve it. Wait, you can't. :lol
If it was First Person View, then Kishi himself would literally be in it. So logically that can't be applied here.
Bring interview saying he's not immune otherwise yourself's IQ won't prove anything.
I will, don't you worry.
Gravity never played a role in any speed feat. In this manga. As we all know. There is no need of me taking fanfic's nitpicked misconcieved brittlenarrative's over established facts. She used foothold she dodged and striked, Kaguya could not dodge at fullest power
Gravity played zero role. It would be stated otherwise. Oh I don't care one bit about your fanfic's brittle fact narrative's of how it went. Naruto plus Sasuke were in same position when Sakura punched Kaguya down meaning Sakura was so fast it made them look like the froze in space.
Her power demolishes RSM Avatar's futile weak rekt powersAs I proved above, that isn't a testament of speed nor power in the slightest and no Sakura's speed nor power compare to Naruto's.
as proven in manga lolKinshiki was angry on his horn. Horn is the most durable part of a Otsutsuki body. Itachi's power is too much which is why he is hyped as the most strongest ninja even in his deathbed which why creeped the horn of Kabuto head. Stop underrating my facts
She initiated it after she stabilized with Juubi, Zetsu claimed her power grew exponentially higher so much that she could manifest an enormously big Truth Seeker BallSpheres which demolishes the entire Narutoverse. Excuse's fanfics are not needed here
She slapped his numerous clones around like glass and broke many of them, without little effort
and somehow he broke her arm when she was in her exhausted state with Amenojitikara. Naruto did most? Lmao logic at it's brittlelest state lolSakura slaps RSM clone effortlessly with zero multi negative digits of effort
because of her speed and horn breaking physicalitical strength. Something Mother of Shinobi could not counter.Cannot you see Naruto and Sasuke being unable to dodge which is why the clone pushed them? Clone got blitzed which has same speed as original
Kishimoto would not draw movement marks and exclamation marks if it was not dodge feat. She outran it.You must be registered for see images
^As you can see the Juubi arm was about to one shot her, but Kakashi saved her.
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Juubi hand never touched the ground until that moment.
Sakura dodged absolutely nothing. Nothing at all. She was saved.
Wow. Flashback proves Asura had Kyuubi's Cloak and RSM Bijuu Mode Sad
Full of assumptional BS is yourself. Sasuke speech = fact
Momoshiki wanted Chakra fruit remakingI have that effect on people.
He tried to take Naruto out like he did the Kages and failed to do so.
Prove it, oh wait you can't.
No he didn't. Just you making things up.
naruto blitzed by held back Momoshiki.Proof = Naruto you will get caught in IT if you go out. He essentially said RSM Avatar'sll get thrashed in Infinite Tsukiyomi Lightified Illumination if he venture's out
That could be a lie, Kabuto never praised Shisui for breaking it for Itachi. Itachi is called Greatest Genjutsu user by Elite Intellectuals like Shikaku, leader strategist of Shinobi Alliance.
That page is controversial as there is so much proof Itachi broke it on his own like Kabuto praised him.What fanfic? Manga is fanfic now? That MANGA page I provided is FANFIC?
Here's another MANGA page for ya.
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Only those who wish to deny the manga won't take my word for it
Yet here you are denying it. lmao.
Itachi is lying as usual, intellects like Shikaku call him the best Genjutsu user capable of subtly grasping mental thoughts of multiplied individuals from long range at the same time without being detectualized. That caliber cannot be suppressed by ET.
Naruto afraid of IT after knowing Universal Knowledge
= Proof.Oh Sasuke Rinnegan has Tomoes and travelifies through Strongest Otsutsuki Dimension's. One Eyed Rinnegan = RinneSharingan, rephrase this fanfic's
Context grasping IQ is needed to understand flawed statement's yourself written long agoNow then if you don't want to be made out to be a butthurt, damage control childish liar with no purpose in life other than to troll and pass off delusional fanfics as facts, then prove these statements of yours, that you said I claimed :
Accused me of -
- Claiming Naruto is immune to IT. (Multiple Times)
- Claiming that anime characters have a life or that they have a mind of their own.
- Claiming Naruto being immune to IT, then saying no.
Go on, address the above and get them screen shots or quotes of me claiming such things.
- Claiming Naruto'll get rekt by IT.
I'll wait.
Sad brittle littleIQ's fanfic's cannot grasp logic + facts Your fanfic's contextually misinterpret substantially corrected facts then go on to nitpick little context-understandable points like 'IT traps living slaves' and twist it's meaning into 'IT light traps living slaves' lol that is some IQless interpretation sad Naruto get's rekt by Infinite Tsukuyomi and that is a empirical fact yourself fanfic's IQless BSll never change lol
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Yes it is normal battle logic. But this is Naruto not warfare or battle. If Madara did use his strongest techniques he'd have won the fight, killed Hashirama, done with the world as he pleased, then died and war would continue soon afterwards.
That creates 2 problems, the first being that this goes against what he planned, and the second being it leads to us not having a story. Do you understand now?
People keep saying bz know what was immune to IT, when he only seen two chakra uses fight against it. He didn’t even know sasuke was immune to it because he never seen anyone that wasn’t a sage battle against Kaguya but her son and he had a bakugan.
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Lmao. You've literally been reduced to spouting nothing but gibberish.
Guess I'll further entertain such idiocy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :
kun:
Keep getting owned. :bdpf:
Agreed, which is why you should refrain from doing so. It's for the best and you'll spread less cancer than you already do.
I'll go ahead and add it to the list below.kun:
When Sasuke said he was the strongest.
When Sasuke said Kakashi was like Sakura (useless)
When Madara claimed himself to be the Savior. Etc etc.
Read the Manga.
Spoken like a true Uchiha fap, even though you're a Sakura faps first and foremost.
And no, he's been proven wrong time and time again. So his word is definitely not absolute nor is it law.
Hell Sasuke could've gone after Madara himself. Naruto was already taking care of the Limbo clones and Meteors like a boss. Guess not only do we have Sakura to blame for IT, but Sasuke too. :snick:
Sasuke was being cautious after all.
Only one that has to deal with IQ brittled fanfic's and twisted narrative's is me.
How I stated it went is facts why? Because that's how it happened in the manga in which you keep denying. What you believe is nothing but forced fanfic.
Sakura ≠ Fast. :lol
A single clone would suffice and could/would instantly one-shot. Sakura is not even remotely close power wise. At all.
She absorbed enough chakra to produce an enormous TSO, which would create a new dimension.
Insta-kill. GG Sakura. XD
He had an Ava, but no cloak nor Bijuu KKG.
Merely an assumption.
So nope RSM Avater'sll won't get thrashed in Infinite Tsukiyomi Lightified Illumination if he venture's out, since it can't be proved.
Itachi broke out thanks to Koto. Without it, he'd still be under Kabuto's control.
1. Do what Itachi did, by utilizing Koto.
2. Do what Madara did by doing ET release.
3. Possess such power that you can't be suppressed by ET, like Hashi.
Sorry but try again, that is no proof.
XD
Anyway it's you who's fanfic's contextually deny substantially established facts and then go on to create more fanfics to suit your flawed narrative. Where did I do the Bold? More accusations that you cannot hope to prove?kun:
Now then again, if you don't want to be made out to be a butthurt, damage control childish liar with no purpose in life other than to troll and pass off delusional fanfics as facts(which at this point you already are lol), then prove these statements of yours, that you said I claimed :
Accused me of -
Also don't pathetically and conveniently ignore the above this time.
I'll wait.
Guess I'll further entertain such idiocy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :
Sasuke's Rinnegan is special thx to Hago. It's basically the equivalent of two Rinnegans.
Do you have any legit source calling Sasuke's Rinnegan anything other than a Rinnegan? There are ton's calling Kaguya's Sharingan a "RinneSharingan". If not, sorry to say but Sasuke's is only just that, a Rinnegan. Nothing more, nothing less.
It is. :lolMy IQ brittlety is laughable to say the least.
Does Ashura possess a chakra cloak? Because I've never seen him with one nor have I seen him use Bijuu KKG's.
Completely agree. You should get something to fix that IQ of yours.What a IQ brittlelation this is. Sad asf.
kun:I see.
Only one contradicting themselves again and again and again is you.
You can't prove he isn't nor is Sasuke's word law as he's been proven wrong numerous times.
Yours? Go ahead, you're doing a splendid job.I'll make sure to have IQ crushed lol
No, there's no proof that he is/isn't immune or that he can/can't resist IT in some way. So saying he'll be caught against IT is fanfic.
Pretty sure I've debunked those statements already and the manga is against what you've been spewing.
Then why bring them yourself? That's all you've done. Bringing fanfic's trash IQ, when we need mangafacts, as I've been so generous in providing.So fanfic's trashIQ are not needed in the place of mangafacts.
More fanfic eh? No proof = Fanfic. Too bad.
Unfortunately that can't be proved. Thus it falls under the fanfic category.He rekt by IT.
It proves what you've been denying. It's literally BZ saying that with Yata and Totsuka Itachi basically invincible.
See what I mean? You outright deny Mangafacts even when I slap you with them. Pathetic. Your IQ is without a doubt non-existent.
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Keep getting owned. :bdpf:
How can I concede when you got no proof/evidence supporting your false statements? Only one to concede here is you.concede on that RSM brittle clone getting trashstomped by Infinite Tsukuyomi, lol
That's what I've been telling ya, but you don't listen.
No one cares for little alterified twisted fanfic's narratives which myself writes in NB, lol
Agreed, which is why you should refrain from doing so. It's for the best and you'll spread less cancer than you already do.
Because you're the one making such statements. Those who make statements should have proof/evidences to back them up and you've provided none.
No it's you're job. You're the one making such statements. Those who make statements should have proof/evidences to back them up and you've provided none.
All you buddy. All you. lol
When did I say that? Is that another one of your accusation, which you cannot prove.
I'll go ahead and add it to the list below.
kun:Yeah, don't really care about this. lol
No, not really. But I'm not surprised you think so. Your comprehension skills are garbage at best.This is the thin brittle argument yourself has been using all along lol
Prove what? Only one without proof here is you, despite me asking several times.
Just to name a few,
When Sasuke said he was the strongest.
When Sasuke said Kakashi was like Sakura (useless)
When Madara claimed himself to be the Savior. Etc etc.
Read the Manga.
If the person making such a statement has limited knowledge on the topic, the chances of that statement being false is higher than not.
Sure I'll deal with the facts I've provided. You need to get over the fanfics that you've provided.
Yet you can't prove it now can you? Pity. XDthat brittle clonified RSM Avatar's gets utterly rekt by Infinite Tsukiyomi's Heavenly Light, lol
When? When did he single out Naruto? He wasn't aware that Sasuke could've countered IT.
Yet he tried going outside anyway. :sdo:
That you have. You've received tons actually in this one thread alone from yours truly.Proof #5 which gives myself another L which myself BrittleIQ has been recieving for a while.
Or Naruto knew that it's better not to risk it. Sasuke was being cautious after all and he himself didn't know for sure if Naruto could or couldn't resist IT in some way. Oh well that goes your poor BS excuse, sad truly sad.Naruto followed Sasuke's word's like a poor BS, sad
Yet no proof of that. lol
Only one doing so is you. Excuses upon excuses. Not surprised though.
Well you did that to yourself.
Roflmao!!!
Spoken like a true Uchiha fap, even though you're a Sakura faps first and foremost.
And no, he's been proven wrong time and time again. So his word is definitely not absolute nor is it law.
Nor could Sasuke. Only one to demonstrate fear was Sasuke when he realized IT was cast.
Hell Sasuke could've gone after Madara himself. Naruto was already taking care of the Limbo clones and Meteors like a boss. Guess not only do we have Sakura to blame for IT, but Sasuke too. :snick:
You wreak of desperation and it shows given the amount of nonsense you've spewed. So you should take yourself elsewhere.
Sasuke assumes : 'You'll get caught Naruto'. Nuff said duh buhSasuke states: 'You'll get caught Naruto'. Nuff said duh buh lol
Sasuke was being cautious after all.
You mean the drivel you've been posted? Which shouldn't be taken seriously in the slightest. After all you deny Manga panels, even if they're shoved in your face.
Yep, you have no choice but to keep getting owned by me.
Again all you. Hell you've turned this whole thing into a circle jerk, repeating the same drivel over and over hoping to achieve something. While I've addressed everyone of your points and solo'd accordingly.but to strawman and grasp fanfic's from
Not if you can't prove it, which you can't. So you get over it.
Terrible fanfic.
Can you at least try to sound coherent?
Only one that has to deal with IQ brittled fanfic's and twisted narrative's is me.
Yet you can't prove it. Pitiful.
And I'll keep owning and shutting you down over and over until you're done spouting such ridiculous fanfics. It's too easy anyway. All you've done is deny facts and push your own fabricated fanfics as facts.I repeat and I'll keep repeating this until your fanfic's scullified logic shutted down
IT can be used without God : Nativity of a World of Trees and vice versa.
He does, but he's not saying Naruto is/isn't immune to that he can/can't resist IT in some way. Funny though, you try using Kishi, but deny his work when used against you. What a hypocrite you are. XD
Yet you keep denying that supposed will and repeatedly create unnecessary fanfic's.
Obviously. You've failed to prove it time and time again.
It has. Several times actually. Especially if you're falling.
You must be reading a different manga. You've certainly denied facts that have to do with Naruto "The Manga".
@Bold Then follow your own advice, you keep bringing nothing but fanfic and completely ignore what I have brought which are established facts.
What foothold? When did she dodge and strike?
That has nothing to do with it. Kaguay was preoccupied with two superior threats.Kaguya could not dodge at fullest power
It did. 100%. Remain in delusion though.
Not everything has to be stated. Now you're nitpicking to better serve your false narrative.
And you think I care about your one-sided false inputs? Rofl.
How I stated it went is facts why? Because that's how it happened in the manga in which you keep denying. What you believe is nothing but forced fanfic.
No. Naruto and Sasuke didn't have gravity to help them. Sakura did, when she landed that PIS punch.
Sakura ≠ Fast. :lol
Terrible fanfic.
A single clone would suffice and could/would instantly one-shot. Sakura is not even remotely close power wise. At all.
Yeah, must be some fanfic.
Okay?
Where is this stated? Fanfic land? Where you've been getting most of your info from.
No.
What facts? You have none.Stop underrating my facts
No it wasn't initiated in the way that we spoke of.
She absorbed enough chakra to produce an enormous TSO, which would create a new dimension.
Then why do you keep bringing them? That's all you've brought.Excuse's fanfics are not needed here
Makes me wonder what would happen if instead of the clones, it was Sakura.She slapped his numerous clones around like glass and broke many of them, without little effort
Insta-kill. GG Sakura. XD
Naruto speed blitzed Kaguya and slashed her arm right off. That's what happened.
Obviously. Clearly you need to read the manga.
This coming from the troll who outright denies Manga scans. Roflmao!!!
100% agree.Sakura gets slapped by RSM clone effortlessly with zero multi negative digits of effort
Her speed and strength pale considerably in comparison to that of RSM Naruto
1 on 1, she wouldn't need to. Sakura would just forget to breathe again.
Actually Naruto and Sasuke were close to the Rabbit and it makes sense that the arms got the jump on them, however thanks to Naruto's reaction time they got pushed out of the way. Had Sakura been there instead of them, she'd get one-shot easily.
There was no blitzing since there was a reaction. That reaction of them pushed.Clone got blitzed which has same speed as original
Sakura was trying to run away, but the hand was too fast. She dodged nothing.
She didn't. She was about to get killed, which is why Kakashi saved her.
My thoughts when reading such drivel that you've produced.
Nope. Scan proving your statement?
He had an Ava, but no cloak nor Bijuu KKG.
That you are.
Agreed.
Agreed.
He tried to take Naruto out like he did the Kages and failed to do so.Momoshiki wanted Chakra fruit remaking
He tried to take Naruto out like he did the Kages and failed to do so.
Not at all.
Merely an assumption.
Yeah, he assumes a lot of things. Too bad he gets proven wrong quite a few times. Which means his word is the farthest thing from law.He essentially said RSM Avatar'sll get thrashed in Infinite Tsukiyomi Lightified Illumination if he venture's out
So nope RSM Avater'sll won't get thrashed in Infinite Tsukiyomi Lightified Illumination if he venture's out, since it can't be proved.
No, that's just you denying Manga scans as usual.
Because it wasn't Shisui who planted it. It was Itachi. Though Koto is Shisui's eye tech.
And?
Here you go again, conveniently denying manga scans to better suit your narrative.
Itachi broke out thanks to Koto. Without it, he'd still be under Kabuto's control.
Believe that if it helps you sleep at night.
Doesn't matter.
There are only three known ways to break out of ET.
1. Do what Itachi did, by utilizing Koto.
2. Do what Madara did by doing ET release.
3. Possess such power that you can't be suppressed by ET, like Hashi.
When was Naruto afraid? Is that why he tried going out?Naruto afraid of IT after knowing Universal Knowledge
Sorry but try again, that is no proof.
Still a Rinnegan.
So you admit that the bold is fanfic? Good for you, about time you start seeing the light. :lolOne Eyed Rinnegan = RinneSharingan, rephrase this fanfic's
I see. Makes sense. :snick:Context grasping IQ is needed to understand flawed statement's myself written long ago
That's right you're sad brittle littleIQ's fanfic's cannot grasp logic + facts. Too bad.Sad brittle littleIQ's fanfic's cannot grasp logic + facts
XDAnyway it's you who's fanfic's contextually deny substantially established facts and then go on to create more fanfics to suit your flawed narrative. Where did I do the Bold? More accusations that you cannot hope to prove?
kun:From you? It sure is. :lolthat is some IQless interpretation sad
No proof, which means Naruto doesn't get rekt by Infinite Tsukuyomi.
It is.
I can see that now. That's too bad for you. Btw try getting into some proper english classes, I can tell you desperately need them. You sound like a child that doesn't know how to structure their sentences properly. Just look at the messy drivel you've posted above. It's outright pathetic and cancerous to say the least. What's worse is the fact that you legit deny manga scans in favor of the ridiculous fanfics you conjure up. It's honestly disgusting.
Now then again, if you don't want to be made out to be a butthurt, damage control childish liar with no purpose in life other than to troll and pass off delusional fanfics as facts(which at this point you already are lol), then prove these statements of yours, that you said I claimed :
Accused me of -
- Claiming Naruto is immune to IT. (Multiple Times)
- Claiming that anime characters have a life or that they have a mind of their own.
- Claiming Naruto being immune to IT, then saying no.
- Claiming Naruto'll get rekt by IT.
- Claiming if someone do not use certain technique in battle then the enemy is immune.
Also don't pathetically and conveniently ignore the above this time.
I'll wait.