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[BlacLord™]

It's not just plain ol' KCM.

He has both halves of the Kyuubi now, and he further enhances it with SM and he can still manifest a Kyuubi avatar.

Complete KCSM Naruto >>> BSM Naruto.

 

[ANiMUS]

RSM boosts sensory abilities. As long as he had Hagoromo's chakra he could enter RSM and hence enhance his sensory abilities. It's sort of like how base Naruto had no sensory abilities but as soon as he enters SM he gains sensory abilities. Doesn't prove that his enhanced sensory ability was permanent.

Do you get it?

You still didn't clarify what you meant by "permanent changes to their bodies." 'Cause Hago's chakra isn't permanent.

I also think that Naruto is a psuedo-jinchurki of the other 8 bijuu. Why? Sasuke said that on the 1st page of chapter 693. "You have become the jinchuriki of all 9 beasts."

How would you explain that?

1. Still had RM when he fought Sasuke even though he lost his seal.
2. Madara had SM sensing as well so as far as sensory Madara should be on the same lvl, but isn't :|
3. Jinchuuriki. He has all the bijuu chakra and is linked to all of them. Ergo jinchuuriki of all bijuu.

It's not just plain ol' KCM.

He has both halves of the Kyuubi now, and he further enhances it with SM and he can still manifest a Kyuubi avatar.

Complete KCSM Naruto >>> BSM Naruto.

Agreed :|

 

[Sharingan King]

1. Still had RM when he fought Sasuke even though he lost his seal.
2. Madara had SM sensing as well so as far as sensory Madara should be on the same lvl, but isn't :|
3. Jinchuuriki. He has all the bijuu chakra and is linked to all of them. Ergo jinchuuriki of all bijuu.

1) I never mentioned the sun seal. Hagoromo gave them chakra as well as the seals. When the seals went back to Hagoromo, they still had chakra remaining. Hence, Naruto could use RSM.

2) Naruto acquired chakra directly from Hagoromo while Madz did not. Naruto and Madara had different SM and Naruto is a perfect sage while Madara is not.

3) Having chakra from a tailed beast and being a jinchuriki isn't the same. Sasuke absorbed some of Kurama's chakra from Naruto but he isn't a jinchuriki. You stated that Naruto was not a psuedo-jinchuriki, so I was just seeking some clarification from you. Naruto has a piece of each bijuu, thus making him a psuedo-jinchuriki. There is a difference.

 

[narutoblitz]

Hagoromo's chakra ran out because he died and he took it with him when he left. The remaining was spent in the final fight. Kishi's interview makes it clear. Naruto likely lost RSM, or at very least uses its power as a BM+ mode.

 

[ANiMUS]

Hagoromo's chakra ran out because he died and he took it with him when he left. The remaining was spent in the final fight. Kishi's interview makes it clear. Naruto likely lost RSM, or at very least uses its power as a BM+ mode.

What interview?

 

[Dage The Evil]

I'm pretty sure every main character fights their hardest.

Every shounen character anyways.

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[9tailsJinchuuriki]

It's not just plain ol' KCM.

He has both halves of the Kyuubi now, and he further enhances it with SM and he can still manifest a Kyuubi avatar.

Complete KCSM Naruto >>> BSM Naruto.

Wait, I thought that that was yang kurama that went into chakra mode to fight that giant thing since he was in flesh and fur when he wrote the message on the moon to the shinobi on earth. So how can he be inside Naruto?

 

[Amantius]

What makes this whole theory shaky is that. The 6path himself stated that All the other bijuu would be linked to Naruto forever, and kurama must stay inside naruto to be the center piece. ( no matter where they were they could still meat up at one spot. In theory to do this, their must be chakra involve, so yes he might still have all the chakra.

Another thing to consider is, this is just a damn movie that doesn't mean anything just because they didn't show Naruto BM. Every animation does it, for example...how many times have we watched dragonball z knowing that goku could go higher and yet the animation didn't bother because they wanted to focus on one thing and not go all over the place.

The list can go on and on. If they are indeed link best be sure, they could transfer chakra to him all over again.

All i am saying is, i understand why they didn't do it. Naruto has so much powers that it's really unnecessary to show it all in a move that is suppose to be about him finding love.

 

[ANiMUS]

What makes this whole theory shaky is that. The 6path himself stated that All the other bijuu would be linked to Naruto forever, and kurama must stay inside naruto to be the center piece. ( no matter where they were they could still meat up at one spot. In theory to do this, their must be chakra involve, so yes he might still have all the chakra.

Another thing to consider is, this is just a damn movie that doesn't mean anything just because they didn't show Naruto BM. Every animation does it, for example...how many times have we watched dragonball z knowing that goku could go higher and yet the animation didn't bother because they wanted to focus on one thing and not go all over the place.

The list can go on and on. If they are indeed link best be sure, they could transfer chakra to him all over again.

All i am saying is, i understand why they didn't do it. Naruto has so much powers that it's really unnecessary to show it all in a move that is suppose to be about him finding love.

I already stated the bijuu chakra thing in the OP :|

 

[ministerC4]

No.
He has the beast.
This is why, firstly Naruto GOT THE BEASTS, not just their goddamn chakra.
It's like him and Kurama.
Kurama was gone because the last of the chakra he was(The tailed beasts are creatures of chakra) was used up.
Kurama is only HALF of HIS ORIGINAL.

Now taking that into consideration the beasts Naruto got were also portions of their originals, and had minds of their own, implying THAT THEY WERE NOT JUST CHAKRA.

I believe Naruto used up their chakra and they left, but they can or have returned already.
Because tailed beast don't die, when their chakra is all used up they just go away for around 10-15 years till it all returns, but they'd still land flat inside their host(This part is pure speculation).

Now considering Naruto has Kurama, he either got the other half, or the one he had returned from having all it's chakra consumed, meaning so did the other beasts. TY.

BTW WHY YOU COPYING OTHER THREADS THO?

 

[WalksInShadows]

2) Naruto acquired chakra directly from Hagoromo while Madz did not. Naruto and Madara had different SM and Naruto is a perfect sage while Madara is not.

it doesn't matter a bit of difference that Madara got the chakra by taking it, he acquired Hagoromo's chakra by having met every last prerequisite a transmigrate had to meet. You actually got your facts wrong because Naruto only a fraction of Hagoromo's chakra in him while Madara had all of it and then some.

 

[AaaaNinja]

Yeah, Sad truth is that Naruto used up all his bijuu chakra. KCM is Naruto's full power now and he has 100% control of the Kyuubi chakra 100% of the time, just like Bee has with the Hachibi. He isn't a psuedo jinchuuriki of all the other bijuu. Naruto just got chakra from the other bijuu. Without a bijuu that chakra doesn't replenish itself. Naruto getting the bijuu chakra is the equivalent of this.

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This runs out.

Saying Naruto can keep using the chakra indefinitely is like saying everyone in konoha can use kyuubi chakra. Yep, dude. Was bone dry at the end of his battle with Sasuke. Not even Kurama had chakra left.

Good news though

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The dude can just ask and get more. Lol

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Even when it runs dry and isn't of use that chakra still exists.

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That chakra though depleted still connects him to the bijuu.

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Using that connection he could just ask for more chakra from the bijuu.

There u go, instant revival of RM Naruto Lol


You gotta respect Naruto for fighting for his lady with his own power and not asking for help though.

Then how do you explain him making chakra requests of the "pieces" of bijuu that he had in him while fighting Kaguya and Madara? Just like he can send people more chakra using his will (using a piece of his own as the "seed" that he planted in each person), bijuu can send him their chakra.

 

[ANiMUS]

Then how do you explain him making chakra requests of the "pieces" of bijuu that he had in him while fighting Kaguya and Madara? Just like he can send people more chakra using his will (using a piece of his own as the "seed" that he planted in each person), bijuu can send him their chakra.

Naruto is linked with the bijuu and can draw upon their chakra through telepathy :| that point is actually supported by the manga where it said seeping (continuous process) rather than Naruto just gained their chakra. If I were to guess Naruto was still linked with the Bijuu even when they were inside the Juubi, but my point was that Sasuke binded the bijuu severing that link from the bijuu'a side and forcing Naruto to only use the bijuu chakra he had available. I also said that Naruto still has that link and should just be able to ask for more :|