Naruto fans logic.

[take it easy]

Sasuke: I lost

 

[Sennin of Logic]

and anybody who denies the condition of both parties and instead solely relies on the words of one of the characters without taking into consideration the full context is the bigger fool.

No, that just makes people like you kicking a brick wall to force the idea that Sasuke tied. True, their conditions were similar, but he lost. If Naruto's condition in the first VOTE counts as a loss, despite the fact that it was completely in his power to make it a tie, then this certainly counts for a loss for Sasuke. What, pray tell, is the "context" that you speak of? He was clearly giving the fight to Naruto. Right before this, he stated that Naruto showed a strength he did not aka willpower. His will to fight was broken, so yeah, it's his loss.

the rest of your post is garbage mixed with speculation, sasuke was also exhausted at the end, all the fighting he did previously which he utilized his own chakra along side the 9 chibaku tensies and 9 genjutsus which he used just before the fight which would taken some more as well.

OT. if you are not a blind and biased tard, you would know this.

"His own chakra" Hardly relevant. I honestly don't know how you can somehow think doing something that showed little to no effort somehow can be equated to all the crap Naruto's had to do. Kurama's statement confirms that Naruto's base chakra was never replenished. Otherwise, he'd would only attribute Naruto's fatigue to his battle with Sasuke, which he didn't.

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This is an obvious cumulative effect. What's under question is Naruto's base charka, which suffered before the fight. So, like it or not, Sasuke had an advantage to his favor. INB4 you continue with "Sasuke did draining things too." I hope you realize what Sasuke had to do hardly compares to what Naruto had to do. Compare Sasuke, who was trapped in a dimension and couldn't do anything, compared to Naruto, who had to do the majority of the work against Kaguya at first, and was expending chakra continuously. Has Sasuke done anything that draining? Obviously not.


Ultimately, both will be forced in both of their base states, and a fresh Naruto would not have as hard a time as Naruto at VOTE 2. No matter how much you dismiss it as "garbage" the fact doesn't change. It's just kicking a wall at the fact Sasuke lost.

 

[shelke]

I suppose the Viz stating Naruto gorging on the Bijuu chakra ... is irrelevant. This exhausted logic is always so preposterous and stupid.

 

[King Of Pop]

=Sennin of Logic;18336755]No, that just makes people like you kicking a brick wall to force the idea that Sasuke tied. True, their conditions were similar, but he lost. If Naruto's condition in the first VOTE counts as a loss, despite the fact that it was completely in his power to make it a tie, then this certainly counts for a loss for Sasuke. What, pray tell, is the "context" that you speak of? He was clearly giving the fight to Naruto. Right before this, he stated that Naruto showed a strength he did not aka willpower. His will to fight was broken, so yeah, it's his loss.

because he tied, simple as that, same condition means it was a tie no matter how much you try and sugar coat it. your vote 1 example is retarded as what naruto could have done is completely irrelevant and speculative, what matters is what happened and what happened is that naruto was unconscious and sasuke walked away unlike here in which both were in the same mess fact. i dont care for your nonsense fanfiction. he couldnt achieve his overall goal which was to kill naruto so he can begin his revolution which naruto was against, he achieved neither hence he lost. the bigger picture more than the physical fight was a clash of ideals and which one would reign supreme. . i dont have to further explain the manga to you, naruto himself said he would have liked to punch sasukes face, smack some sense into him but he didnt because he couldnt move, end of story. whether sasukes willpower was broken is irrelevant as naruto couldnt do jack even if he wanted period.

"His own chakra" Hardly relevant. I honestly don't know how you can somehow think doing something that showed little to no effort somehow can be equated to all the crap Naruto's had to do. Kurama's statement confirms that Naruto's base chakra was never replenished. Otherwise, he'd would only attribute Naruto's fatigue to his battle with Sasuke, which he didn't.

of course its relevant, what do you mean its not relevant, because it doesnt favour your argument?? he used his own chakra in whateva thing he did, the fights he partook, so he wasnt fresh in any way before that fight. Don't care if its comparable with what naruto did, my point was that did take some chakra out of him and him showing no effort in doing it doesn't disprove that. we already know ct takes some chakra as seen with nagato so obv sasuke using 9 wont be a walk in the park chakra wise especially when he doesnt have a bijjus chakra to use so yes its relevant. i never said his base chakra was replenisehd, but he was running on the bijjus chakra all through his fight post hagoromo continuing to the sasuke fightmanga fact so dont give that fatigue excuse here. his chakra running low shouldnt be much of a hindrance when he has external sources to feed on.

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This is an obvious cumulative effect. What's under question is Naruto's base charka, which suffered before the fight. So, like it or not, Sasuke had an advantage to his favor. INB4 you continue with "Sasuke did draining things too." I hope you realize what Sasuke had to do hardly compares to what Naruto had to do. Compare Sasuke, who was trapped in a dimension and couldn't do anything, compared to Naruto, who had to do the majority of the work against Kaguya at first, and was expending chakra continuously. Has Sasuke done anything that draining? Obviously not.

and like i said its irrelevant because he can tap and utilize kuramas chakra or the bijjus chakra in him which he did. his own chakra being low only becomes a factor when he is out of kuramas chakra or the bijjus completely and has to rely on his own in base but at that point in their fight sasuke himself was running low as he put all his all his max effort into that indra arrow, after that he could only use 1 chidori then couldnt manifest another one due to insufficient chakra

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. So that naruto who was low faced a sasuke who was low as well. and yes sasuke did fight as well, against madara and kaguya. he used ps severally, had to keep it up for the duration of IT in which team 7 were camped under. that is a battle construct which would take as much if not more chakra than what naruto did at least for someone like sasuke. and not to mention about 14 amenotejikara and chidori. and btw it doesnt matter if naruto did more because he has more chakra than sasuke, far more due to the bijjus and yin kurama so if he uses some of that against kaguya that doesnt necessarily mean sasuke would have an advantage, it could just be slightly levelling the playing field chakra wise, simple logic. not to mention he still had some of that piece of the bijjus chakra in him against sasuke.

Ultimately, both will be forced in both of their base states, and a fresh Naruto would not have as hard a time as Naruto at VOTE 2. No matter how much you dismiss it as "garbage" the fact doesn't change. It's just kicking a wall at the fact Sasuke lost.

what you fail to acknowledge is that during that taijutsu spar sasuke himself was also low so it evens out, you act like base naruto faced a fresh sasuke which is retarded. i have given scan of how sasuke coudnt manifest another chidori until he abosrbed some of kuramas chakra, same chakra naruto was given as well. no matter how you look at it, it all plays out and your exausted talk is nothing but excuses, petty ones at that. If you want to imagine a fresh base naruto then you imagine sasuke fresh as well. Anyways keep telling your self that, mayb it might become true.

 

[Kamui Sama]

yes it was a tie.

Naruto did not have killing intent though :snick:

 

[shelke]

because he tied, simple as that, same condition means it was a tie no matter how much you try and sugar coat it. your vote 1 example is retarded as what naruto could have done is completely irrelevant and speculative, what matters is what happened and what happened is that naruto was unconscious and sasuke walked away unlike here in which both were in the same mess fact. i dont care for your nonsense fanfiction. he couldnt achieve his overall goal which was to kill naruto so he can begin his revolution which naruto was against, he achieved neither hence he lost. the bigger picture more than the physical fight was a clash of ideals and which one would reign supreme. . i dont have to further explain the manga to you, naruto himself said he would have liked to punch sasukes face, smack some sense into him but he didnt because he couldnt move, end of story. whether sasukes willpower was broken is irrelevant as naruto couldnt do jack even if he wanted period.



of course its relevant, what do you mean its not relevant, because it doesnt favour your argument?? he used his own chakra in whateva thing he did, the fights he partook, so he wasnt fresh in any way before that fight. Don't care if its comparable with what naruto did, my point was that did take some chakra out of him and him showing no effort in doing it doesn't disprove that. we already know ct takes some chakra as seen with nagato so obv sasuke using 9 wont be a walk in the park chakra wise especially when he doesnt have a bijjus chakra to use so yes its relevant. i never said his base chakra was replenisehd, but he was running on the bijjus chakra all through his fight post hagoromo continuing to the sasuke fightmanga fact so dont give that fatigue excuse here. his chakra running low shouldnt be much of a hindrance when he has external sources to feed on.

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and like i said its irrelevant because he can tap and utilize kuramas chakra or the bijjus chakra in him which he did. his own chakra being low only becomes a factor when he is out of kuramas chakra or the bijjus completely and has to rely on his own in base but at that point in their fight sasuke himself was running low as he put all his all his max effort into that indra arrow, after that he could only use 1 chidori then couldnt manifest another one due to insufficient chakra

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. So that naruto who was low faced a sasuke who was low as well. and yes sasuke did fight as well, against madara and kaguya. he used ps severally, had to keep it up for the duration of IT in which team 7 were camped under. that is a battle construct which would take as much if not more chakra than what naruto did at least for someone like sasuke. and not to mention about 14 amenotejikara and chidori. and btw it doesnt matter if naruto did more because he has more chakra than sasuke, far more due to the bijjus and yin kurama so if he uses some of that against kaguya that doesnt necessarily mean sasuke would have an advantage, it could just be slightly levelling the playing field chakra wise, simple logic. not to mention he still had some of that piece of the bijjus chakra in him against sasuke.


what you fail to acknowledge is that during that taijutsu spar sasuke himself was also low so it evens out, you act like base naruto faced a fresh sasuke which is retarded. i have given scan of how sasuke coudnt manifest another chidori until he abosrbed some of kuramas chakra, same chakra naruto was given as well. no matter how you look at it, it all plays out and your exausted talk is nothing but excuses, petty ones at that. If you want to imagine a fresh base naruto then you imagine sasuke fresh as well. Anyways keep telling your self that, mayb it might become true.

Post slaughtered. Wish I could rep you, to be honest. Excuses excuses ... looks like Naruto fans lobby just cannot wrap their tiny tiny heads around the fact that Naruto just couldn't beat a severely held back Sasuke, despite their stupid claims that Naruto would blow him out of the water, turn him into dust because he was so much more powerful. And yet, the manga had to purposely utilize Deus Ex Machina to save Naruto's ***** ass on several occasions.

Now isn't that shameful? Nothing but petty denials.