Dude why are you dragging this out? Your initial statement is wrong, just accept it.. When Sasuke was leaving the village in 699 he agreed to fight naruto so what's your point??
Dude why are you dragging this out? Your initial statement is wrong, just accept it.. When Sasuke was leaving the village in 699 he agreed to fight naruto so what's your point??
You say im wrong yet you have not provided any evidence or facts that i am and continue to drag this on while blaming me for dragging this on when your the one who's wrong here, too much hypocrisy in one post. Also, do you honestly believe Kishi will bring another Naruto vs Sasuke in the mini-series? VoTe 2 was obviously their last fight, Kishi has stretched Naruto enough, he's not going to do that fight whether you like it or not.
You say im wrong yet you have not provided any evidence or facts that i am and continue to drag this on while blaming me for dragging this on when your the one who's wrong here, too much hypocrisy in one post. Also, do you honestly believe Kishi will bring another Naruto vs Sasuke in the mini-series? VoTe 2 was obviously their last fight, Kishi has stretched Naruto enough, he's not going to do that fight whether you like it or not.
I like how you reply to me just to say my post is rubbish, insult me by saying to go back to school when you yourself should take that advice and then leave as if you disproved my argument without even actually disproving it in the first place. Debater of the Year everybody, Lol.
I like how you reply to me just to say my post is rubbish, insult me by saying to go back to school when you yourself should take that advice and then leave as if you disproved my argument without even actually disproving it in the first place. Debater of the Year everybody, Lol.
No seriously, from which facet of English linguistics does that comment translate into what you were boldly spewing on the previous page? I don't have to prove anything, when the dialogue itself is as clear as anything can be. Now I, or anyone else, shouldn't bear the burden of your poor English comprehension if lingo or gibberish is your preferred mode of translating images.
This is not even an insult, as I am baffled by this base's level of illiteracy.
Damn, your trying hard, found that dictionary? Lol, i was simply stating what he seemed to have missed out, if your trying to say i went out of topic, i believe you should speak for yourself considering your talking about a language rather than the actual topic of this thread.
I don't have to prove anything, when the dialogue itself is as clear as anything can be. Now I, or anyone else, shouldn't bear the burden of your poor English comprehension if lingo or gibberish is your preferred mode of translating images.
There you go again, mate. Lol, frantically looking for words in the dictionary to insult my english while going completely out of topic and being irrelevant. Before spewing random crap, actually explain what caused you to be so upset with my post? Actually explain why your so mad before you go insulting me bro. Lol, now lets take this nice and simple, what part of that sentence did i fail to comprehend to in your opinion?
Damn, your trying hard, found that dictionary? Lol, i was simply stating what he seemed to have missed out, if your trying to say i went out of topic, i believe you should speak for yourself considering your talking about a language rather than the actual topic of this thread.
There you go again, mate. Lol, frantically looking for words in the dictionary to insult my english while going completely out of topic and being irrelevant. Before spewing random crap, actually explain what caused you to be so upset with my post? Actually explain why your so mad before you go insulting me bro. Lol, now lets take this nice and simple, what part of that sentence did i fail to comprehend to in your opinion?
Just by reading your posts along with others, i too, am shocked.
Is that all? Glad to see that you swung your arm wide and slapped yourself, yet again. That is not what this dialogue means, as Naruto is talking about fighting to alter the system. It's about time you actually paid attention in class instead of mining your nose or sightseeing.
Why are you bringing in the reasons of why the fight was started? That's irrelevant seeing as every fight has a reason to be started, Jiraiya vs Pain, Itachi vs Sasuke etc etc. Unless your trying to say, " Naruto only won in the psychological battle!!!", then why wasn't it stated in the manga that the fight was a psychological battle which Naruto won and why is it only coming out of people such as you who don't want to admit Sasuke's loss.
Your not considering the fact that the out come is a tie no matter the circumstances.. The guy said "I'm not saying Sasuke equal naruto". But the fight was a draw, no matter what could've/would've/should've happened.
But he is using wrong comparison with MMA and boxing, where both opponents start with the same strength. And if we use his logic (which is that endurance means victory), then Naruto won, since he was fighting a lot longer than Sasuke and was more exhausted and still managed to make it tie.
But he is using wrong comparison with MMA and boxing, where both opponents start with the same strength. And if we use his logic (which is that endurance means victory), then Naruto won, since he was fighting a lot longer than Sasuke and was more exhausted and still managed to make it tie.
MMA fighters are fighting with the same rest, but no MMA fighters are equal in strength.. Naruto was fighting longer, but he got assistants from Sakura and Minato.. So no needs for excuses..
I don't care if Naruto enter the fight with 10% chakra and Sasuke had 90%, it still was a draw.. The guy never said that that means they are equal. He's saying it was a draw no matter what, and that's fact.
MMA fighters are fighting with the same rest, but no MMA fighters are equal in strength.. Naruto was fighting longer, but he got assistants from Sakura and Minato.. So no needs for excuses..
I don't care if Naruto enter the fight with 10% chakra and Sasuke had 90%, it still was a draw.. The guy never said that that means they are equal. He's saying it was a draw no matter what, and that's fact.
By strength, of course, I meant same amount of rest (there is no way to compare strength), you're the first person who did not understand that apparently. When he got those assistants?? He had only Sakura, if you forgot Minato and other Kage who were really of help in war came with Sasuke and Oro, do not make false statements here...
I don't care what you think, I just gave possible explanation to the question/discussion of the thread, title - "Naruto fans logic". I just stated possible "logic" for why people think Naruto won.
1. Sasuke surrendered. Regardless of condition, he lost. Anybody that denies this is a fool. Even if 2 armies are equal, the one that surrenders automatically looses. Therefore, Sasuke lost.
2. Although their sheer power is equal, Kurama stated that Naruto's own base chakra was low through his constant fighting in the war. Basically, an exhausted Naruto from fighting much longer over all than Sasuke managed to match him. Although even a fresh Naruto would have this as the result.
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A fresh Naruto would be better off in base than he was in this fight. Basically, Sasuke=Naruto in large scale in the fight. Once they're both wrecked into base though, a fresh Naruto has the upper hand, and would almost certainly win. A fresh Naruto would not have this happen.
Glad to see your describing your own actions and putting me in your place. Lol
Why are you bringing in the reasons of why the fight was started? That's irrelevant seeing as every fight has a reason to be started, Jiraiya vs Pain, Itachi vs Sasuke etc etc. Unless your trying to say, " Naruto only won in the psychological battle!!!", then why wasn't it stated in the manga that the fight was a psychological battle which Naruto won and why is it only coming out of people such as you who don't want to admit Sasuke's loss.
I suggest you do the same, because common sense and education just doesn't seem to be characteristics of which you hold.
Let's not boldly talk about education, when common sense, wait let me rephrase myself, common English comprehension rule # 101 tells me that nothing can be plucked out of context. You, sticking to this one line, and throwing the rest of the dialogue scheme screams ignorance and foolishness.
Now you can be a foolish dilettante, but you cannot fool anyone with a bit of common sense and knowledge on basic English grammar or dialogue scheme working. But hey, it's you. Why did I even bother? Forgive me.
1. Sasuke surrendered. Regardless of condition, he lost. Anybody that denies this is a fool. Even if 2 armies are equal, the one that surrenders automatically looses. Therefore, Sasuke lost.
2. Although their sheer power is equal, Kurama stated that Naruto's own base chakra was low through his constant fighting in the war. Basically, an exhausted Naruto from fighting much longer over all than Sasuke managed to match him. Although even a fresh Naruto would have this as the result.
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A fresh Naruto would be better off in base than he was in this fight. Basically, Sasuke=Naruto in large scale in the fight. Once they're both wrecked into base though, a fresh Naruto has the upper hand, and would almost certainly win. A fresh Naruto would not have this happen.
By strength, of course, I meant same amount of rest (there is no way to compare strength), you're the first person who did not understand that apparently. When he got those assistants?? He had only Sakura, if you forgot Minato and other Kage who were really of help in war came with Sasuke and Oro, do not make false statements here...
I don't care what you think, I just gave possible explanation to the question/discussion of the thread, title - "Naruto fans logic". I just stated possible "logic" for why people think Naruto won.
When I said assistants, I meant being healed and given chakra.. Why else would I not include the others? You are the only one who did understand that lol..
'Possible logic' can still be wrong and this case proves it.. It would be different if this thread was referring to 'why people think sasuke>=naruto', then your logic would apply.
I did not say that Sasuke was at full strength, I said Naruto was more exhausted than Sasuke!
If you can't admit that Naruto was a lot more exhausted than Sasuke, then you're just a hater. Sasuke himself admitted that he was holding back to take care of Naruto later. Naruto gave his all to fight Kaguya and was in almost total exhaustion.
On top of that, how many edos (I mean not only fodders, but former kage as well) his clones helped to seal? If you remember Naruto training with shadow clones, they exhaust him really badly. Naruto did most of the job in the war before he obtained RSM and Sasuke obtained rinnegan. After that, Sasuke himself admitted what I said above, so save you breath proving me wrong. (I'm not even talking about bijuu power Sasuke used to match exhausted Naruto who had less than half of kurama)
bold lets not dive into fanfic territory, sasuke never said anything like that.
as soon they neary died and were given hagoromos power, they started fresh with naruto having the bijjus chakra in addition to what he got from the sage so all lets not give petty exaustion excuses, sasuke also fought as well and he didntt have any bijju chakra which he could use back then
except the last two attacks he used>>>whateva he used previously based on scale and he also used his bijju avatar something he didnt use previously, he didnt hold shit back.
1. Sasuke surrendered. Regardless of condition, he lost. Anybody that denies this is a fool. Even if 2 armies are equal, the one that surrenders automatically looses. Therefore, Sasuke lost.
2. Although their sheer power is equal, Kurama stated that Naruto's own base chakra was low through his constant fighting in the war. Basically, an exhausted Naruto from fighting much longer over all than Sasuke managed to match him. Although even a fresh Naruto would have this as the result.
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A fresh Naruto would be better off in base than he was in this fight. Basically, Sasuke=Naruto in large scale in the fight. Once they're both wrecked into base though, a fresh Naruto has the upper hand, and would almost certainly win. A fresh Naruto would not have this happen.
and anybody who denies the condition of both parties and instead solely relies on the words of one of the characters without taking into consideration the full context is the bigger fool.
the rest of your post is garbage mixed with speculation, sasuke was also exhausted at the end, all the fighting he did previously which he utilized his own chakra along side the 9 chibaku tensies and 9 genjutsus which he used just before the fight which would taken some more as well.
OT. if you are not a blind and biased tard, you would know this.
bold lets not dive into fanfic territory, sasuke never said anything like that.
as soon they neary died and were given hagoromos power, they started fresh with naruto having the bijjus chakra in addition to what he got from the sage so all lets not give petty exaustion excuses, sasuke also fought as well and he didntt have any bijju chakra which he could use back then
except the last two attacks he used>>>whateva he used previously based on scale and he also used his bijju avatar something he didnt use previously, he didnt hold shit back.
and anybody who denies the condition of both parties and instead solely relies on the words of one of the characters without taking into consideration the full context is the bigger fool.
the rest of your post is garbage mixed with speculation, sasuke was also exhausted at the end, all the fighting he did previously which he utilized his own chakra along side the 9 chibaku tensies and 9 genjutsus which he used just before the fight which would taken some more as well.
OT. if you are not a blind and biased tard, you would know this.
except the last two attacks he used>>>whateva he used previously based on scale and he also used his bijju avatar something he didnt use previously, he didnt hold shit
Actually my statement is directly toward other Naruto's arsenal, like clones, Bijuu base power that is not FRS like Keriki Musou etc
I just reply to the subject that my post quote person brought in.
Same as Sasuke here, I can post 101 techniques that Sasuke able to use, but Sasuke also can be said as holding back given arsenal he has.
But holding back not being mention in the manga, that's mean any statement like that is default/void.
Yeah Naruto last attack sure very serious attack because Sasuke attacking him with intent to kill, that is mean Naruto cant hold back. He need to counter Sasuke's attack or he will die
But we as reader saw and can speculate, they both are holding back given they are not using many techniques.
