Naruto cant be faster than the Raikage.....

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There is not after that wind over lightening and even tho the third rikage is slower he is better then A and he told naruto his weakness so it naruto knows his dads weakness he'll use it to beat A or hit him with a rs when he misses again
 
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Dude i get that it breaks your heart that your favorite character isnt the best in his respective category but learn to accept it. I think you may be the only person on this site that actually believes this shit. Lets not forget to mention that Naruto's newest upgrade has seemingly made him even faster than before. Get over it. Naruto is faster.
And I understand that. My point is that during that encounter he was not faster than the Raikage and I have excellent logical points backing this statement up. Him being my favorite character has nothing to do with it...I like to debate facts that people assume my with my logic that's all there is to.

The problem isn't me because again I have logic and proof backing up my statements.

Everyone keeps saying the Raikage admitted Naruto was faster. That's a cold hard lie. Stop acting like I don't read the manga. Naruto, the Raikage himself or any said such things.

To say you are faster than something because you can dodge it is ignorance. You guys just can't accept being wrong. My logic trumps here...love it or hate it but you have to live with it.

P.S. Can you please link the Manga page where it's saying KM mode is faster than BM mode? I want to see proof of this, i dont want any assumptions. If you can't find it don't bother posting in this thread again because that would make you liar fabricating facts because you lost a logical debate.
 
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And I understand that. My point is that during that encounter he was not faster than the Raikage and I have excellent logical points backing this statement up. Him being my favorite character has nothing to do with it...I like to debate facts that people assume my with my logic that's all there is to.

The problem isn't me because again I have logic and proof backing up my statements.

Everyone keeps saying the Raikage admitted Naruto was faster. That's a cold hard lie. Stop acting like I don't read the manga. Naruto, the Raikage himself or any said such things.

To say you are faster than something because you can dodge it is ignorance. You guys just can't accept being wrong. My logic trumps here...love it or hate it but you have to live with it.

P.S. Can you please link the Manga page where it's saying KM mode is faster than BM mode? I want to see proof of this, i don't want any assumptions. If you can't find it don't bother posting in this thread again because that would make you liar fabricating facts because you lost a logical debate.
Naruto in KCM is probably on par with the Raikage v2, I understand what you mean that evading someone's punch doesn't make you faster. He also never claimed Naruto was faster than him, all he said was Naruto is the second person to ever dodge his v2 punch. Bm is definitely faster than v2, even wikia states that BM's speed and strength is greatly enhanced. It makes sense, Raikage in v2 would never redirect 5 tbb's just by simply moving past them like BM Naruto.
 

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And I understand that. My point is that during that encounter he was not faster than the Raikage and I have excellent logical points backing this statement up. Him being my favorite character has nothing to do with it...I like to debate facts that people assume my with my logic that's all there is to.

The problem isn't me because again I have logic and proof backing up my statements.

Everyone keeps saying the Raikage admitted Naruto was faster. That's a cold hard lie. Stop acting like I don't read the manga. Naruto, the Raikage himself or any said such things.

To say you are faster than something because you can dodge it is ignorance. You guys just can't accept being wrong. My logic trumps here...love it or hate it but you have to live with it.

P.S. Can you please link the Manga page where it's saying KM mode is faster than BM mode? I want to see proof of this, i dont want any assumptions. If you can't find it don't bother posting in this thread again because that would make you liar fabricating facts because you lost a logical debate.
Stop being a moron, you're making an opinion and stating it to be true when the evidence proves its not, get over it i already schooled you in this thread and others seem to be doing it very well too so why bother arguing? unless youre having fun reading that people dont agree with your "fandom" then by all means keep trolling, and we'll keep bashing A, for example; KCM naruto>>A and theres nothing you can say that could prove me wrong

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To say you are faster than something because you can dodge it is ignorance. You guys just can't accept being wrong. My logic trumps here...love it or hate it but you have to live with it.
This could be true. Could Naruto dodging a simple punch make him faster? Not always, but it is still a testament to his own speed and perceptions.

If a baseball player dodges a 90 mph fastball, does that mean he can sprint at 90+ mph, no.

However, have these two ever had a footrace or something that comes close to the encounter of speed vs speed as we have seen here? I don't think so. If this was turned around and Naruto had come at Raikage with a kill-type punch, and A would have dodged it, I am sure you would be creamin your pants saying THAT proves he is faster though. I think the level of Naruto's speed is measured by both his actions and the acknowledgement of these actions.

I know A is said to be the fastest ninja but the only way you can tell is how Kishi has stated those facts in the manga and now he is stating and showing facts about Naruto's speed. So unless they have a footrace to decide, it looks like Naruto is coming out ahead.
 

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Manga says Naruto is the fastest person right now until someone comes out in the future to take that tittle at some future date. If something is fact,it's a fact,opinions do not overrule a fact,that would be totally Illogical a sine of mental illness. The guy taking about baseball assumes that you're taking about a normal baseball player,but is The Flash or Superman if they played Baseball,would you consider them normal Baseball player 90 miles per hour fastball is slow if you can move at or above light speed.
 

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And I understand that. My point is that during that encounter he was not faster than the Raikage and I have excellent logical points backing this statement up. Him being my favorite character has nothing to do with it...I like to debate facts that people assume my with my logic that's all there is to.

The problem isn't me because again I have logic and proof backing up my statements.

Everyone keeps saying the Raikage admitted Naruto was faster. That's a cold hard lie. Stop acting like I don't read the manga. Naruto, the Raikage himself or any said such things.

To say you are faster than something because you can dodge it is ignorance. You guys just can't accept being wrong. My logic trumps here...love it or hate it but you have to live with it.

P.S. Can you please link the Manga page where it's saying KM mode is faster than BM mode? I want to see proof of this, i dont want any assumptions. If you can't find it don't bother posting in this thread again because that would make you liar fabricating facts because you lost a logical debate.
The fact that he blocked 5 TBBs away in a split second that were all a good distance from each other should be proof enough. He did nothing even close to that in his previous mode.
 

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Stop being a moron, you're making an opinion and stating it to be true when the evidence proves its not, get over it i already schooled you in this thread and others seem to be doing it very well too so why bother arguing? unless youre having fun reading that people dont agree with your "fandom" then by all means keep trolling, and we'll keep bashing A, for example; KCM naruto>>A and theres nothing you can say that could prove me wrong

P.S. This:

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is faster than this:

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Schooled me? Haha....grow up. Secondly, I asked for manga proof and logic of how KM mode is faster than BM mode and you showed it. Regardless of the facts, the others you claim to be "schooling" me, has an extremely flawed logic of saying that you faster than something because you can dodge it. And the sad part is, they actually believe it. Like 20 people came in and quoted people "oh he dodged his faster punch therefore he's faster" and I being a moron? Looks to me like idiots Co-signing idiots.
 

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Stop being a moron, you're making an opinion and stating it to be true when the evidence proves its not, get over it i already schooled you in this thread and others seem to be doing it very well too so why bother arguing? unless youre having fun reading that people dont agree with your "fandom" then by all means keep trolling, and we'll keep bashing A, for example; KCM naruto>>A and theres nothing you can say that could prove me wrong

P.S. This:

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is faster than this:

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While he very well may be faster in KM mode my argument was with BM mode and their scuffle.

Schooled me? Haha....grow up. Secondly, I asked for manga proof and logic of how KM mode is faster than BM mode and you showed it. Regardless of the facts, the others you claim to be "schooling" me, has an extremely flawed logic of saying that you faster than something because you can dodge it. And the sad part is, they actually believe it. Like 20 people came in and quoted people "oh he dodged his faster punch therefore he's faster" and I being a moron? Looks to me like idiots Co-signing idiots.
 

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The only reason someone would doubt that naruto is faster is because one of the raikages main attributes is speed, and if he is not the fastest then it makes him a lot less appealing, so they refuse to except it.
 

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Its logically impossible and ill explain why.

First of all,we all know the best ability to read moves lies within the sharingan. A not only did he state it on multiple occasions but we cleary saw how he ran circles against sasuke. We also know that A's lightning armor increases his reflex synapsis so much, he was able to see and dodge amateratsu, an instantaneous attack. Now with that in mind, this could only mean one of 2 things:

1.KM mode has to enhance narutos reflexes and visual perception to that of a level even greater that the mangekyo sharingan. Now i know A>B>C logic doesnt work well,but this case is an exception. While i believe naruto has the speed to dodge it, I dont think he has the perceptive abilites or reflexes to see it coming.

2.Plot hole.

The 4th is an exception because it was stated that he had top tier reflexes....he also had a T/S jutsu which we know beats any speed jutsu.
i dont see what makes your argument valid.
 
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