Naruto cant be faster than the Raikage.....

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And I understand that. My point is that during that encounter he was not faster than the Raikage and I have excellent logical points backing this statement up. Him being my favorite character has nothing to do with it...I like to debate facts that people assume my with my logic that's all there is to.

The problem isn't me because again I have logic and proof backing up my statements.

Everyone keeps saying the Raikage admitted Naruto was faster. That's a cold hard lie. Stop acting like I don't read the manga. Naruto, the Raikage himself or any said such things.

To say you are faster than something because you can dodge it is ignorance. You guys just can't accept being wrong. My logic trumps here...love it or hate it but you have to live with it.

P.S. Can you please link the Manga page where it's saying KM mode is faster than BM mode? I want to see proof of this, i dont want any assumptions. If you can't find it don't bother posting in this thread again because that would make you liar fabricating facts because you lost a logical debate.
Well you aren't really understanding what they are saying... Naruto Was not only able to see A's movement but was "Fast enough to dodge A's fastest punch point blank range. A's fist was right at Naruto's face and with greater speed he moved out of the way. Your example of person A and person B was incorrect in this situation. If someone throws a baseball at 90mph and you dodge this ball at point blank range (it's right in your fast) then yes you are faster than 90mph. No none of us can do this, Only way we could dodge that is seeing it from afar and moving out of the way before it hits you, not waiting until it's right in your face and try moving.

Now then, Kishi pretty much had A state that Naruto was faster by showing Minato Dodge A's punch, then A saying Minato was faster than him then have Naruto dodge the same attack in the same way as Minato to show that Naruto is faster than A. Minato waited util A's fist was in his face then dodged it and Naruto did the same. Also not to mention Naruto has be doing intense training before this and was still new with his speed, when he first went full speed to hit Kisame he had no control ad against A he even sid to himself that he had to go faster.

As for the whole Sasuke thing. Yes Sasuke was able to see A's speed wit his MS but he did not have the speed to counter in time and had to use Sasunoo ribs as protection then amaterasu over his Sasunoo when A's strength proved to much for him. Against Bee Sasuke mentioned how Bee's speed was great but since he move in a linear movement instead of moving around that he can see his movement.

End not. Naruto is faster than A and the Minato flashback and Naruto doing the same as him shows that. Plus Naruto did not use his speed in his other fights until he went BM against Tobi.
 

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he actually became faster than the raikage using the flying thunder god technique. it is because of that technique that he has become faster than the raikage. not to mention he has sage mode and kyuubi mode. all of which causes him to become faster than the raikage
 

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nah...
naruto was dodging raikage's fastest punch with only KCM
now he has BM..and i personally believe that BM would be much faster than KCM
so naruto is faster than raikage and maybe equal to minato's FTG
 

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While he very well may be faster in KM mode my argument was with BM mode and their scuffle.

Schooled me? Haha....grow up. Secondly, I asked for manga proof and logic of how KM mode is faster than BM mode and you showed it. Regardless of the facts, the others you claim to be "schooling" me, has an extremely flawed logic of saying that you faster than something because you can dodge it. And the sad part is, they actually believe it. Like 20 people came in and quoted people "oh he dodged his faster punch therefore he's faster" and I being a moron? Looks to me like idiots Co-signing idiots.
lol no wonder that guy called you a moron.so by what you said here^it also mean A is faster than minato just cause he only doudged A's speed right?
You made a dumb thread with no manga proof, we solidarized to reading you flawn explanation,found out it was a complete BS, gave our own explanation as to how and why you re wrong.instead of reading or practicing how to read and understand one's sentence(s) or better still understanding every bite of word in the sentence, you go about wanting to be proved wrong with same manga you thought to be wrong. your explanation was baseless how are we going to use manga to prove our points when you already quoted it's wrong P.S bro stick to the manga every other thing is a complete BS. If really everyone want or choose to relate the manga/animme with our real world he or she will end up arguing for nothing cause it's not a real life show any thing can pretty much happen there.lol how bout you go to a catoon producer and argue with him or her on WHY CHARACTERS DON'T DIE EVEN IF A CAR SMASH THEM? Or how bout you argue on HOW IS IT THAT SUPERMAN CAN FLY? ...oh you won't huh? Lol cause you accepted it so why won't you accept this one? Cause his speed beats you fav character? Or could it be that you don't want him surpassed?. Aaaa I know! I know!!....jealoucy and envy huh? You just couldn't hold it in you anymore so you came all out. Lol.
 
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KM can sense evil ---> can sense threats essentially. Aside from these 2 things, the only logic that makes sense is the sage mode training has upped his perception. He is used to seeing in Sage Mode at high speeds, therefore when he is in kyuubi mode he is already used to seeing at high speeds because of his experience with sage mode.
 
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Honestly if naruto didn't do so much talking he would be one the deadliest shinobi he takes his time doing to much talking and hesitates damn near every strike until the climax of the arc that's what I think. He has speed faster than raikage very powerful jutsu and he is far from weak he doesn't have much of a killer instinct
 

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I say its because when he became a sage it gave him extra sensory power to perceive intention(blood prison) and personal chakra levels(Pein arc). Proven after he took control of Kurama's chakra(beginning of the war). Also it is mentioned in the manga that Minato's T/S seal is imprinted in the Death Reaper seal(Minato and Obito flashbacks)(maybe it's an adaptation of the T/S or the 4th raikage, as in the Windstyle Rasenshurikin was rasengan?).

Sorry I couldn't give you threads but, any fan that would say anything would know what I'm talking about.
 

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That fact is garbage without solid proof. Again, answer this.....how was Sasukes eyes, MS mind you, not able to keep up but yet Naruto can dodge it?
the fact that sasukes eyes were not able to keep up yet naruto was able to dodge it answers its own question: at top speed both naruto AND raikage are able to move FASTER than sasukes eyes can follow. example: have you ever seen a speeding bullet travel through the air without it being shown in slow motion? no? why? because your eyes cannot keep up with it. thats why. amaterasu IS instantaneous, however, if the user cannot keep up with the speed of the target it will not connect. there is a reason naruto is called the new yellow flash. oh, and before you ask: the reason sasuke was able to run from itachis ameterasu during their fight was because itachi was toying with his little brother and held back during the fight. trust me, i know this.
 

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naruto is now the fastest ninja..
those words can be used by naruto now since the first one who said this was raikage.
no ninja alive who is faster than me since the fourth hokage.
 
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