Naruto and Sasuke aren't that impressive

[slimreaper]

they are, neji, kiba, and a few others would have beat naruto had he not had all his power ups. Same with sasuke, let him beat lee in a one on one with real skill without a sharingan, lee would beat the hell outta sasuke. sasuke and naruto NEED power ups to win. Name one fight where they didn need it? Shinobi like lee, shino and even choji all use their own power. ALl of them train, shit at least naruto trains, all sasuke has to do is look at you, yeah he is sooo good.

what does sasuke have wthout his eyes? Obito just shut him down. No amatarasu for you, no genjutsu for you, what else does sasuke have? Im sorry, what other unnatural powers does sasuke have that he can use to win.

taking away sharingan is like taking away lee's legs. you can't hate on someone because they are born more talented than other characters. you can take the 9 tails considering naruto wasn't born with it but sasuke was born an uchiha. the sharingan is like shino's bugs or neji's byakugan or choji's size. stop taking powers from others but letting others use their birthright

 

[Targaryen]

they are, neji, kiba, and a few others would have beat naruto had he not had all his power ups. Same with sasuke, let him beat lee in a one on one with real skill without a sharingan, lee would beat the hell outta sasuke. sasuke and naruto NEED power ups to win. Name one fight where they didn need it? Shinobi like lee, shino and even choji all use their own power. ALl of them train, shit at least naruto trains, all sasuke has to do is look at you, yeah he is sooo good.

what does sasuke have wthout his eyes? Obito just shut him down. No amatarasu for you, no genjutsu for you, what else does sasuke have? Im sorry, what other unnatural powers does sasuke have that he can use to win.

What does he have without his eyes? He is still powerful. He's always been skilled and smart.

So, take away his sharingan? Rock Lee would be a problem.
Neji? Take away his byakugan.
Kiba? Take away his techs.

EVERYONE in the universe needs powerups to win.

Choji- Special akimichi trait. It's no different him having his natural power than Sasuke with sharingan.

As I said, without powerups, Rock Lee is basically the God of all.

EDIT: You also noted Shino.... Yeah, the bugs are also a natural trait of his clan... Just hush.

As an example- Sasuke vs Haku. He NEEDED the sharingan to help him when Haku used his ice mirrors. He lost against Haku's tech, Haku couldn't take Sasuke in taijutsu. So take away Sasuke's sharingan, take away Haku's ice. I'd put my money on Sasuke taking that fight.

 

[Kage of the Hood]

minato got his powers from Tobirama....

by your logic everybody got their powers from the sage then......
no he learned a tech he didnt give him the kunai or nuthin they never even met each other while alive

 

[Kage of the Hood]

especially Kyuubi. Anyone could have been given kyuubi, that's like the biggest birthday present.
Hashi, Obito, Kushina(never raged), madara, minato(kcm), all controlled kyuubi so naruto isn't special.

kushina and mito...... uzumakis.... everyone else just hypnotized kurama not controled his power/chakra

 

[King Of Pop]

They stil rock regardless. Its no use taking away their powers loll its not like they need it to beat neji and shino. Sm naruto stomps neji and hebi sasuke shitstomps shino

 

[Henchman24]

even Shino or Neji would be on par with Minato if he had Uzumaki chakra reserves + Kyuubi or an Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan
can't see why some people think Sauce and Naru are so awesome
they're just lucky
that's all
*not care much about negreps*

Dude. A lot of characters would be awesome if they had those things. Yeah you are right. Sasuke is lucky his clan was murdered. Naruto is lucky his parents had to die for him to gain the Kyubi. He was lucky to be discriminated against for being a jinchuriki. They suffered and worked for their strengths.

 

[Henchman24]

especially Kyuubi. Anyone could have been given kyuubi, that's like the biggest birthday present.
Hashi, Obito, Kushina(never raged), madara, minato(kcm), all controlled kyuubi so naruto isn't special.

Not anyone could've become the Kyubi jinchuriki and learned to control it like Naruto. Not to say that he is the only one who could but it is no easy task. The ones you listed certainly. Naruto is unique because he took it a step above control. He is actually friends with the Kyubi as well as the rest of the bijuu.

 

[AGoodBoy]

kushina and mito...... uzumakis.... everyone else just hypnotized kurama not controled his power/chakra

umm... they controlled it's power and chakra. Where did the tbb that madara fired come from? Space? It came from kyuubi's chakra therefore he controlled what he wanted the kyuubi to do. He made the kyuubi walk, swing a sword, fire a tbb. He was basically a perfect jin in BM except he didn't have the hastle of being tied down to the beast, lel.

Not anyone could've become the Kyubi jinchuriki and learned to control it like Naruto. Not to say that he is the only one who could but it is no easy task. The ones you listed certainly. Naruto is unique because he took it a step above control. He is actually friends with the Kyubi as well as the rest of the bijuu.

anyone can control kyuubi's chakra like naruto. It's not a hard feat in the slightest considering;

1) You were given half of the fox's chakra so it'd be easier to control
2) a special seal was placed on you that allowed the fox's chakra to leak into your own so that the two chakra slowly become 1

The only difficult thing naruto did was friend kyuubi, but that's because of naruto's plot magic that makes everybody believe his wish-full thinking. The guy just needs to say he'll do something and everyone's like "this kid's legit, i'll trust him"

Dot. Dot. Dot.

 

[Optimistic]

You mad that Sasuke and Naruto trash Itachi now? This thread is filled with BS.

 

[paratise]

Everyone is born with something that makes them worthful; honestly Lee is the only character which born with less gifts; but he could have born with not-functioning limbs or something; everyone is born "lucky" to have something.

I would not say Naruto and Sasuke are downright "nothing special"; but just for justifying some of their instant power ups things like "Uchihas got powerups when they lose a loved one and get sad" (everyone gets sad and endure pain when their loved one dies; why would someone feel sorry for them when a group of people get power-up over it?) or "Kyuubi was a big trouble and making people hate someone" (so as being minority, not-talented, poor, etc; it is not like having treats to be hated have hidden powers within them) are coming to display...These just weird me out; that's all.

 

[Amaterasuice]

That's taking away their powers, which is stupid. Going by that...

Lee-taijutsu=crap

Itachi-sharingan=fodder

Sakura-medical training= pathetic

Raikage-lightning armor= Okay

Shino-bugs=civilian

Neji-byakugan= okay at best

Choji-akimichi clan tecniques= fatass.

What's your point anyway? Everyone without their main power is useless.

 

[AGoodBoy]

That's taking away their powers, which is stupid. Going by that...

Lee-taijutsu=crap

Itachi-sharingan=fodder

Sakura-medical training= pathetic

Raikage-lightning armor= Okay

Shino-bugs=civilian

Neji-byakugan= okay at best

Choji-akimichi clan tecniques= fatass.

What's your point anyway? Everyone without their main power is useless.

that made me laugh roflllll

 

[take it easy]

taking away sharingan is like taking away lee's legs. you can't hate on someone because they are born more talented than other characters. you can take the 9 tails considering naruto wasn't born with it but sasuke was born an uchiha. the sharingan is like shino's bugs or neji's byakugan or choji's size. stop taking powers from others but letting others use their birthright

naruto born with special chakra to sealing kyuubi.

 

[Transcendence]

They both solo Itachi

 

[Tartarus]

Naruto>>>Itachi
Sasuke>>Itachi

They're stronger and Itachi isn't

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[Henchman24]

umm... they controlled it's power and chakra. Where did the tbb that madara fired come from? Space? It came from kyuubi's chakra therefore he controlled what he wanted the kyuubi to do. He made the kyuubi walk, swing a sword, fire a tbb. He was basically a perfect jin in BM except he didn't have the hastle of being tied down to the beast, lel.



anyone can control kyuubi's chakra like naruto. It's not a hard feat in the slightest considering;

1) You were given half of the fox's chakra so it'd be easier to control
2) a special seal was placed on you that allowed the fox's chakra to leak into your own so that the two chakra slowly become 1

The only difficult thing naruto did was friend kyuubi, but that's because of naruto's plot magic that makes everybody believe his wish-full thinking. The guy just needs to say he'll do something and everyone's like "this kid's legit, i'll trust him"

Dot. Dot. Dot.

You seem to be forgetting the physical toll it took on Naruto. Like the fight with Oro. After the cloak subsided his skin had burnt up pretty bad. He also would hurt others while in that mode. Calling it easy is ignoring the story. If it was easy then he would've conquered the task much earlier. Plot is not a good argument for anything. Everything in the story is all part of the plot. Also not everyone has the will to put up with what Naruto has.

Bolded: I believe he was controlling the Kyubi's mind with genjutsu so no he wasn't controlling the chakra itself. He was making the Kyubi do it via mind control.

 

[grizzlyshree]

umm... they controlled it's power and chakra. Where did the tbb that madara fired come from? Space? It came from kyuubi's chakra therefore he controlled what he wanted the kyuubi to do. He made the kyuubi walk, swing a sword, fire a tbb. He was basically a perfect jin in BM except he didn't have the hastle of being tied down to the beast, lel.



anyone can control kyuubi's chakra like naruto. It's not a hard feat in the slightest considering;

1) You were given half of the fox's chakra so it'd be easier to control
2) a special seal was placed on you that allowed the fox's chakra to leak into your own so that the two chakra slowly become 1

The only difficult thing naruto did was friend kyuubi, but that's because of naruto's plot magic that makes everybody believe his wish-full thinking. The guy just needs to say he'll do something and everyone's like "this kid's legit, i'll trust him"

Dot. Dot. Dot.

thats how a story is born. Naruto is a man of resolve. thats how a hero should be. otherwise whatever he does succeeds only with luck.

 

[grizzlyshree]

You seem to be forgetting the physical toll it took on Naruto. Like the fight with Oro. After the cloak subsided his skin had burnt up pretty bad. He also would hurt others while in that mode. Calling it easy is ignoring the story. If it was easy then he would've conquered the task much earlier. Plot is not a good argument for anything. Everything in the story is all part of the plot. Also not everyone has the will to put up with what Naruto has.

thats right, people dont understnad it and blame it as PNJ. its like this: Sassori lost to sakura because of chiyo.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Dude. A lot of characters would be awesome if they had those things. Yeah you are right. Sasuke is lucky his clan was murdered. Naruto is lucky his parents had to die for him to gain the Kyubi. He was lucky to be discriminated against for being a jinchuriki. They suffered and worked for their strengths.

it's not luck
it's just the selfless sacrifice of Itachi and Minato
there are about 346546 shinobies who had sad childhood yet most of them are nameless fodders except the fodders with name, like Kiba Shino Sakura Tenten etc who get bashed on this site every day only because they didn't get the ability from their brothers/parents to spam Amaterasu or Bijuudamas

 

[Henchman24]

it's not luck
it's just the selfless sacrifice of Itachi and Minato
there are about 346546 shinobies who had sad childhood yet most of them are nameless fodders except the fodders with name, like Kiba Shino Sakura Tenten etc who get bashed on this site every day only because they didn't get the ability from their brothers/parents to spam Amaterasu or Bijuudamas

Oh then you agree that it isn't luck. I thought maybe my sarcasm didn't get through. And yes the selfless acts of Minato, Kushina and Itachi paved the way for the Sasuke and Naruto to become what they are. I just feel that you undermine the picture that the author has drawn for us. They are both hard working and determined ninja with a path to follow. Nothing about their lives is due to luck. Besides, I don't believe in luck. You make it sound like it was all just a walk in the park for them but it wasn't.