Nagato vs. The Sannin w/o Gedo Mazo

Who wins?

  • Nagato

    Votes: 11 55.0%
  • Sannin

    Votes: 9 45.0%

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The sannin take this high diff. Even if nagato is healthy. Nagato's strenght didn't lie in his raw power alone, although it was it was a factor his true strength lies in the fact that no one had info on his rinnegan technique's. Jiraya with ma an pa where able to find out 3 of the pains abilities and handle it. With oro an tsunade there that provides the back up and necessities that jiraya didn't have before. Although nagato's techniques are more dangerous and faster when he personally uses them, the team work of the sannin out weights this.
 

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I believe Nagato takes this high difficulty. He can go in the air and fly while his summons fight on the ground. Those summons of his will hold their own against the summons of the Sannin. From the air he can continuously drop missile against the Sannin and their summons which would hurt them quite a bit.

We also know that he mastered 5 elements which is a pretty OP feat if you ask me. Those 5 elements can literally counter most of the techs that Jiraiya and Orochimaru have.

A bansho tenin and human path combo can kill an unsuspecting Sannin by surprise.
 

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Ok, let's try to break this down...

Tsunade's attacks are all physical, and are therefore all rendered useless by the Human Path. The Asura Path was also fast enough to catch Bee, and since Tsunade has never shown any speed feats, I think it's safe to assume that her attacks are pretty much rendered useless, unless she can catch Nagato off guard, which won't happen due to his sensory abilities. The only thing Tsunade can do is to summon Katsuyu, and heal the other two Sannin.

Orochimaru has a shitload of techniques, but his ninjutsu and taijutsu are rendered useless by the paths, so he'd likely mainly have to rely on the Kusanagi, and since Asura could completely immobile Bee, a master swordsman, it could def take on Oro. There is also the fact that Oro used to be a member of the Akatsuki, and as it's leader, Nagato had to have known about the members abilities

Jiraiya's Sage mode didn't help him too much in the end vs the paths. He has knowledge on Preta and the Animal path, but he has no idea what the other 4 do, so unlike what some people say, he won't be fighting with knowledge. Like with the rest of the sannin, taijutsu and ninjutsu are rendered ineffective, and since his fighting style mainly revolves around those two factors, I don't think he'll be able to do much.

Nagato however, has all 5 elements, which would be a lot of trouble for the Sannin, +his summons can take on the Sannin summons, Cerberus alone was even able to go against Gamabunta/Gamaken/Gamahiro, and when we add the other summons, I think it's safe to say that the Sannin summons won't stand to much of a chance. Ninjutsu, Taijutsu and Kenjutsu are all rendered in effective, so the only real problem would be Genjutsu, and I believe Oro is the only one who is able to use that. Nagato can also likely summon the 6 paths to help him fight the Sannin (why shouldn't he be able to do it, he was able to use the paths while being concious, people who say he can't summon the paths, please give a good reason why he shouldn't be able to...)

So, I believe Nagato takes this. It'll be hard, but I think the only real threat from the Sannin is Oro's Genjutsu. After all, Hanzo was able to hold up pretty good against the Sannin, I think Nagato could too...
 

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Reading J-man's fight itself and his counters beats half of pain. This battle is now focusing on 1 person. Plus the other two Sennin is helping out.

Come on now.
 

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Reading J-man's fight itself and his counters beats half of pain. This battle is now focusing on 1 person. Plus the other two Sennin is helping out.

Come on now.
Jiriya got beat fairly easily by the paths, he was struggling with the 3 weaker paths, if deva path wasn't even required. Also Nagato is stronger and faster than his paths combined. Tsunade doesn't bring much to the table due to her main offence being physical attacks which are stopped simply with assura path or deva path, sould rip can finish her. Orochimaru can be defeated simply as well with a bansho + tennin soul rip combo. Summons can be 1 shot with shinra tensei and Nagato's summons are a lot stronger.
 

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Jiriya got beat fairly easily by the paths, he was struggling with the 3 weaker paths, if deva path wasn't even required.

Lol show me where where he was easily beaten? He clearly said he can take them 1v1. It was their eyes that had cameras to stop J man's counter. He was not struggling at all. Please show me scans.


Also Nagato is stronger and faster than his paths combined.
He is still open agains't fighting 3 strong people. This is Senin team work they are not going to watch each other get "1-shot". Show me where he is faster? Last time I check he is crippled.

Tsunade doesn't bring much to the table due to her main offence being physical attacks which are stopped simply with assura path or deva path, sould rip can finish her.
Again this is team work. It's like saying Itachi wouldn't do nothing to stop Nagato when he caught Naruto and Bee

Orochimaru can be defeated simply as well with a bansho + tennin soul rip combo. Summons can be 1 shot with shinra tensei and Nagato's summons are a lot stronger.

Team work. They are not going to watch Oro get one shot. J-man himself owned Summons. Sannin's Summons can keep Nagato's occupied.
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Lol show me where where he was easily beaten? He clearly said he can take them 1v1. It was their eyes that had cameras to stop J man's counter. He was not struggling at all. Please show me scans. He stated that he could beat the paths 1v1 when he had only seen Preta, Human and Animal Path. He didn't know what the others were capable of, and facing Nagato alone isn't even close to being the same as fighting one path at a time. I recall him saying something like "I managed to beat one, but I had to drag him into my barrier to do it". Him stating that he would have been able to beat them 1v1 doesn't necessary mean that he can.

He is still open agains't fighting 3 strong people. This is Senin team work they are not going to watch each other get "1-shot". Show me where he is faster? Last time I check he is crippled. Read the thread before you post. He is fully mobile, but canðt use the Gedo instead. And how will they prevent Nagato from hurting each other ? What will Jirayia or Oro do when Nagato Bansho Tenin's Tsunade and Human Paths her ?

Again this is team work. It's like saying Itachi wouldn't do nothing to stop Nagato when he caught Naruto and Bee
Teamwork isn't everything..proven when Nagato was able to easily take on the 2 strongest Jinchuuriki's

Team work. They are not going to watch Oro get one shot. J-man himself owned Summons. Sannin's Summons can keep Nagato's occupied Jiraiya's three largest toads were having trouble against Cerberus alone... how will their summons prevent him from dividing himself to even larger numbers, +they can't handle all of Nagato's clones at once.
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" He stated that he could beat the paths 1v1 when he had only seen Preta, Human and Animal Path. He didn't know what the others were capable of, and facing Nagato alone isn't even close to being the same as fighting one path at a time. I recall him saying something like "I managed to beat one, but I had to drag him into my barrier to do it". Him stating that he would have been able to beat them 1v1 doesn't necessary mean that he can."

I wasn't applying that J-man Solo's lol. I was applying that J-man was doing just fine fighting three pain tech's just by himself. With the other 2 Sannin's helping out they can definitly take Nagato down.

"Read the thread before you post. He is fully mobile, but canðt use the Gedo instead. And how will they prevent Nagato from hurting each other ? What will Jirayia or Oro do when Nagato Bansho Tenin's Tsunade and Human Paths her ?"

I did re read the OP after my post to double check, but I didn't want to double post so I waited for someone to reply. This still doesn't give enough evidence that Nagato's "unknown" speed is going to play a big role fighting 3 Sannins. "How will they prevent NAgato from hurting each other?" Please elaborate I don't understand what you are trying to apply. What can J-man do and Oro to save Tsunade? Oro: Kusanagi to break (like Itachi using Sassano hands) while J-man use Swamp underworld.

"Teamwork isn't everything..proven when Nagato was able to easily take on the 2 strongest Jinchuuriki's"
But then you neglect, Itachi helping. So Teamwork is everything for this battle

"Jiraiya's three largest toads were having trouble against Cerberus alone... how will their summons prevent him from dividing himself to even larger numbers, +they can't handle all of Nagato's clones at once."

So then how was Cerberus defeated in the first place? And you are neglecting Oro and Tsunade's summon help with J-man toads. All they need to do is keep them occupied while they defeated the summoner. NAgato clones? 1st of all when was this? Can we focus on feats that he actually did. And 2) Please read what clones are. To basically explain they are weaker versions of the user that is not going to help them out just as much as Naruto's.
 

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I wasn't applying that J-man Solo's lol. I was applying that J-man was doing just fine fighting three pain tech's just by himself. With the other 2 Sannin's helping out they can definitly take Nagato down.
Jiraiya fought the Human Path, the Preta Path, and the Animal Path. Being able to beat these three with the help of ma and pa and Hiro don't mean that he's able to hold his own against Nagato.

1. Human Path didn't even use his power, and Jiraiya beat him with a kick in the face, which will never work on Nagato

2. He got rid of Preta by making it absorb his Katon technique, which wouldn't have worked on Nagato, since he absorbs a lot faster than Preta.

3. Animal Path didn't even show all of his summons, he used 1-2 at a time. If he'd have used all of them at once from the start, Jiraiya wouldn't have had any way of handling it.

4. Jiraiya didn't face the Naraka Path, or Deva and Asura, which are the strongest paths.

The reasons he beat those three paths were because of the ones I stated above, and because he approached the paths in the way they should be approached, he seperated them. Whcih won't be a problem for Nagato, since he has all the powers in one body.


I did re read the OP after my post to double check, but I didn't want to double post so I waited for someone to reply. This still doesn't give enough evidence that Nagato's "unknown" speed is going to play a big role fighting 3 Sannins. "How will they prevent NAgato from hurting each other?" Please elaborate I don't understand what you are trying to apply. What can J-man do and Oro to save Tsunade? Oro: Kusanagi to break (like Itachi using Sassano hands) while J-man use Swamp underworld.
What do you mean by "break" ? Either way, he can't harm Nagato due to Shinra Tensei. And the Swamp of the underworld is also countered by ST. The Preta Path would also take care of the Swamp, since it is chakra infused mud.

But then you neglect, Itachi helping. So Teamwork is everything for this battle
Even if Itachi had been there the whole time, Nagato would have defeated them if Itachi didn't have the Totsuka, and since the Sannin don't have any sealing techs as powerful as that, they won't be able to win

So then how was Cerberus defeated in the first place? And you are neglecting Oro and Tsunade's summon help with J-man toads. All they need to do is keep them occupied while they defeated the summoner. NAgato clones? 1st of all when was this? Can we focus on feats that he actually did. And 2) Please read what clones are. To basically explain they are weaker versions of the user that is not going to help them out just as much as Naruto's.Cerberus was defeated by the swamp of the underworld, but Nagato summoned him again later, which means that he can summon him back. Nagato also has the Naraka path, so any dead summon can be revived. And I'm not neglecting them, I'm saying that even if they are with the toads, they won't be able to handle all the summons at once. I made a mistake saying clones, I meant to say that they can't handle all his summons. Note that the 6pop are a part of his summons, and if I'm not mistaken, Deva Path broke all their bones with a single move.
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