As unrealtisc as that sounds, you are singling out Nagato’s other abilities (such as being able to have influence over gravity, his biggest feat.) Doesn’t matter how fast you are Gravity > Speed anyday.
KCM Naruto has received ZERO damage from nagato's shinra tensei, banshou tennin can easily be resisted by chakra arms. And he has to consciously use these techniques and thus would not be able to use them against an attack that he can't even perceive/react to.
The moment BM Naruto makes contact with Nagato, he can activate the Gakido, just as he did with Bee
Once again, Nagato was barely able to react to V2 Bee's blitz which is why he was only able to activate preta path AFTER the attack made contact with him. BM naruto is tiers faster than V2 bee, nagato can't even react to naruto's speed, and thus preta path in no way absorbs naruto's chakra cloak when he blitzes nagato's head off. And naruto doesn't even have to make contact with nagato, he can slit his throat with a kunai instead.
Anyway bottom line is, by that feat, nagato in no way is reacting to naruto's blitz.
Obviously you don’t if you replied with this
preta path is CONSCIOUSLY activated by nagato, he has to first react to an attack then use preta path. Preta path does not authomatically spawn when an attack makes contact with nagato despite nagato not reacting to said attack.
If you knew how it work, you would know that anything that comes in contact with Nagato and has CHAKARA, it is being absorbed. Both feats (being that he can absorb mid - far range and in close contact) have already been displayed by both Pain and Nagato so no, this statement is irrelevant
Oh really? So if I can show you a pure chakra attack that comes into contact with nagato and that is not only not absorbed by preta path, but damages nagato himself, will you concede this point?
Not even going to attempt to refute this, if you want to know the facts, re-read the manga.
if you have no counterarguments, then it is a concession on your part, and thus I accept your concession on all the points that the post you have not responded to have made.
Show me a scan where Nagato couldn’t absorb chakara :\
really? So you promise that you will concede the argument if I show you a scan of a chakra attack damaging nagato after coming into contact with him?
Just as Nagato has DISPLAYED his anti blitzing tool; Gakido. Your reply to Midday does not make any sense, how is it anti blitzing when you claim Naruto is too fast to defend against? You make it seem like Susanno and Flower Tree World are as instant as BM Naruto speed
Gakido is in no way an antiblitzing tool, it is a defensive jutsu that is activated after Nagato reacts to an attack, if the attack is fast enough to blitz him before he can either react or put up preta path, then he will sustain damage from that attack.
Flower tree world makes bltizing nigh impossible since naruto will fall asleep if he tries to move within flower tree world while in human form. Susanoo is anti-blitz because regardless of how much faster naruto is than his opponents, he still won't be able to hit them when they have a 360 degree shield that defends against ANY physical direct attack.
??? Not quite sure what you mean, if he made contact before he put up the Gakido, you are doing nothing but supporting my argument
Nagato only putting up preta path after he gets hit with lariat means that he was only able to put preta path up until after he was hit, which means that any attack that is faster than bee's lariat will hit nagato and he won't be able to put up preta path against it. Preta path is NOT activated as a reaction to nagato getting hit, it's activated by nagato consciously using the technique.
Sensing didn’t help? Sensing helped Pain discover Jiraya infiltrated the Rain Village, sensing helped Nagato know that Itachi was about to activate Amateratsu. If you read the manga, you would know that Nagato was not in control of his body, Kabuto did not know how to use Nagato therefore leading to his fate of being sealed.
All of those sensing feats are irrelevant as they have nothing to do with perceiving and reacting to extremely fast blitzing attacks. And Kabuto not knowing how to use nagato is irrelevant to Nagato's own displayed reactions. Nagato explicitly was unable to react to totsuka.
Sasuke’s sharigan is the reason why he was keep up with A, what the heck are you talking about? :\
concession accepted as you are strawmanning my argument and feigning ignorance. Sasuke was absolutely NOT able to keep up with V2 ei even with his sharingan, he couldn't even track ei's shunshin, and nagato's rinnegan holds none of the sharingan's precognitive abilities.
@Bold 1
What does that have to do with him getting caught? He could have evaded, but why didn’t he? Because he couldn’t sense it regardless.
um... because in an actual battle he will have knowledge on it, and have clones around, and not be in free fall not trying to attack nagato. The chameleon won't know which is the real naruto, and if naruto summons ma and pa, they casually deal with the chameleon. If it grabs a clone, the clone turns around and ends the chameleon with a rasengan variant.
brotherin, i don't even know what you bolded as your quotes got messed up.
Sigh, pain (and his 6 paths) are weaker than Nagato by himself. Sage Naruto had 15 minutes to fight with Pain and what was the result of that? Naruto with a stake through his hand while Hinata came to his rescue. Had it not been for plot, Naruto would have been captured
That's completely and utterly irrelevant as you specifically were asserting and trying to back up the assertion that Deva path and ONLY deva path "wrecked" SM Naruto, and then used a scan of deva path beating BASE Naruto as evidence to support your assertion. That is explicit dishonesty on your part.
And with this post, you are blatantly attacking a strawman by bringing up how much stronger a full power Pain is than Pain arc Naruto is in order to try and dishonestly trick me into debating you about a completely different point.
I have no qualms about Pein arc Naruto being weaker than full power Pein, however I once again repeat that is absolutely NOT what you were trying to argue.
Oh and while we are talking about straw men, current SM Naruto would beat Pein.
Here in this statement you’ve contradicted your whole argument. “Even if” gives a possibility (in your speculation) that Nagato has time to react. In that reaction time, BM Naruto chakara (cloak) is absorbed.
What is this rubbish logic of yours? It in no way shape or form gives the possibility of nagato reacting to BM Naruto. Even if shows that EVEN IF I nagato had the feats to react to BM Naruto/KCM Naruto's flash shunshin (since he does not have those feats) it still does not follow that he absorbs the cloak as preta path's activates even slower than nagato's own mental reactions.
brotherin, you gotta debate with more integrity. Gakido is activated by nagato consciously activating the technique. You can't attack strawmen after your argument faces a defeat, the very fact you brought up deva beating BASE Naruto as evidence to say Deva wrecks SM Naruto is blatant dishonestly on your part.
