Nagato or BM Naruto?
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So Nagato isn't getting blitzed because nagato isn't getting blitzed? And because he's "very skilled"?
circular logic is circular.
oh did he? please show me the exact scan where Deva does anything even close to "wrecking" SM Naruto. and SM clones are protected by BM avatar, or they simply withstand shinra tensei like base naruto did now that they have knowledge. And while nagato is shinra tenseing them what does the real naruto or a BM/KCM clone do to nagato? THEY BLITZ HIM.
doesn't matter if he can use several paths at the same time, none of that is stopping him from getting blitzed. He could barely activate preta path in time against Bee's V2 lariat, he got blitzed by totsuka and blitzed by susanoo's chop. BM Naruto is tiers beyond tiers faster than all of that.
Preta path only affords NAgato a defense against Naruto's overwhelming nukes, it does not give him a defense against naruto's flash shunshin blitz, frog katas and it leaves him wide open to getting turned to stone by absorbing a sm clone.
that's what happens to naruto if he blitzes Nagato AT V2 LARIAT SPEED! From right in front of Nagato! BM Naruto's flash shunshin is tiers faster than Bee's lariat speed and nagato was barely able to even put preta path up in time.
In addition to that, a punch only makes contact with the target for an instant, Bee's lariat make contact with the target for much longer than that.
That's all irrelevant because he BARELY put it up in time which means that's the top of his reaction limit, and BM Naruto's shunshin is tiers beyond V2 bee's lariat, thus nagato would not even be able to react let alone put up preta path. Not only that Naruto doesn't even have to punch nagato, he can slit his throat with a kunai or slit his head off.
Nagato couldn't even react to the susanoo chop and couldn't react to totsuka, and even then preta path is not activated instantly after he reacts to the attack.
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How can you say he barely put it up in time when he receive no damage? Nagato is a sensor he'll know Naruto is coming & have preta up. Naruto couldn't even see or sense Nagato's chameleon which is what grabbed him last time, samething will happen then he sucks his soul out.
because unlike nagato, Hashirama and Madara have antiblitz tools, Hashirama because of flower tree world and the fact that his mokutons are super tall thus the battle is forced to be a long ranged one and madara with susanoo that completely surrounds him.
um... because we see Bee's lariat make contact with nagato BEFORE he is able to activate preta path...
sensing did not help him with V2 bee's lariat, susnaoo's chop or totsuka's sword blitz. On top of that, sasuke with the sharingan couldn't even see Ei's movements, nagato has no sensing feats that says he can perceive even that let alone KCM or BM Naruto's speed.
Naruto wasn't even trying to FIGHT nagato when the chameleon grabbed him and didn't even know the chameleon existed. KCM Naruto was in free fall when it grabbed him, at less than 7% chakra, couldn't make clones, wasn't friendly with kurama, and was hit with so much PIS that he was litterally asking nagato to teach him rinnegan techniques while his soul was being removed.
Going by your logic, Edo itachi > edo prime nagato because it happened in the manga.
BM Naruto or KCM Naruto with full power and manga knowledge beat nagato.
no that's whats going to happen if KCM naruto comes into the battle with less than 7% of his chakra reserves, unable to make clones, not wanting to fight nagato and is in free fall.
Goodness gracious, is this what nagato supporters have to stoop to? bringing up a feat where KCM Naruto is in free fall and saying that's a flash shunshin blitz attempt?
lol this is basically a concession on your part. You said deva destroyed Sage mode naruto, is that sage mode naruto?
of course it works on contact however it does not work instantly and it does not work if nagato can't react to the said attack.
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Is Lariat not a physical jutsu? Doesn't preta work by absorbing what touches him? Exactly. Sensing did help him since he absorbed Bee's chakra without a scratch. So you say he has no sensing feat when the manga says other wise. Exactly he never seen nor sensed the chameleon. Same will happen again. Nagato owned Naruto.
Now you are playing word games you stated that BM Naruto could easily defeat Nagato by blitzing him. When you blitz, what does that require? Contact, what happened when Bee made contact with Nagato? :|
no it does not, preta creates the absoption sphere and absorbs whatever chakra is within it. Thus if he had properly reacted to bee's lariat, he would have activated the absorption sphere before bee's attack came into contact with him.
Irrelevant if sensing helped him or not, the fact is even with sensing and having V2 bee charge right from in front of him, he was only able to put up preta path AFTER the attack made contact with him. Any faster than that and he would not have absorbed it especially if the attack is just a punch rather than a lariat which makes contact with the victim for far longer.
This dishonesty of your is concessionary. Not only does naruto have manga knowledge (so he does have the chameleon) but he is going to have 100% of his chakra, the ability to make clones, kurama not feeding off of his chakra, and will actually be trying to kill nagato instead of help bee.
Saying "nagato owned naruto" and leaving it at that is concessionary as going by that same logic, edo itachi owned edo nagato.... THREE TIMES! and therefore edo itachi > edo prime Nagato.