Nagato > Ems Madara (Proof)

[FourthLegacy]

possibly brake out of it.

I stopped reading after this. Seems reasonable well...the first 3 lines i've read.

 

[Nagato and Pain]

Hashi > hashirama though other than that i agree

umm what? Lol

 

[Arugon]

Let me make this alot simpler....
RINNEGAN>>>>Sharingan. FACT.

 

[Da Best Ever]

False, as the eye's belong to Madara then he can see through Madara's Genjutsu just like Sasuke to Itachi.

boy u knw that isnt true about because its madar's eys he can use genjutsu on nagato boy please u aint even heard that anywhere ever either just because those his eyes dnt mean that...lol u crazy for real ... and the rinnegan>ems so madara;s more advanced eyes cant see through his less advance eyes??? huh wtf

 

[Nagato and Pain]

Maybe you don't understand, Madara is as excellent a long range fighter as he is close range not o mention that he already has canonical knowledge of all the rinnegan is capable of. Nagato isn't getting no where near the kyuubi and not to mention that his extraction methods are time consuming and leaves him open for attacs as he has to remain stationary and if disrupted cancelled entirely. I get your a Nagato fan, but keep in mind that Madara is always a tier above.

Bansho Tenin brings ems madara to him. There will be no long range fighting this matchup bud.

 

[villain55]

umm what? Lol

I fixed it (sorry a little drunk)

 

[Da Best Ever]

Maybe you don't understand, Madara is as excellent a long range fighter as he is close range not o mention that he already has canonical knowledge of all the rinnegan is capable of. Nagato isn't getting no where near the kyuubi and not to mention that his extraction methods are time consuming and leaves him open for attacs as he has to remain stationary and if disrupted cancelled entirely. I get your a Nagato fan, but keep in mind that Madara is always a tier above.

okay lets say nagato is ripping out madara's soul and the kyubi jumps in well thats what the rhino, panda, bird, and dog is for to occupy the kyubi and dnt say the kyubi will tb ball all of the because nagato told naruto the only way to defeat the dogs were to attack him so they would just keep multiplying no matter how many times the nine tails would tb ball it...oh i forgot the lizard too...please ems loses this

 

[Nagato and Pain]

Six paths stand no chance against Madara now healthy nagato has a shot of staling him slightly xD

Pain has never lost a fight with the intent to kill. Just because he was beatin due to plot doesn't make him weak.

look at these comparisons

How they 6pop fought Naruto: One vs one at a time, deva path couldn't help till end, wasn't trying to kill.

How they should fight: all six paths attack at once, this includes the deva path attacking with shinra tensei and bansho tenin, summonings, the possibility of having your soul ripped out, being paralyzed, gedo mazo, chakra being absorbed, etc. Etc.

 

[Nagato and Pain]

okay lets say nagato is ripping out madara's soul and the kyubi jumps in well thats what the rhino, panda, bird, and dog is for to occupy the kyubi and dnt say the kyubi will tb ball all of the because nagato told naruto the only way to defeat the dogs were to attack him so they would just keep multiplying no matter how many times the nine tails would tb ball it...oh i forgot the lizard too...please ems loses this

Don't forget, nagato has gedo mazo as well.

 

[Waltz]

Bansho Tenin brings ems madara to him. There will be no long range fighting this matchup bud.

No dear.

Knowing nagato, he would probably try something that foolish as it wouldn't make any difference [

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] As i said, Nagato doesn't have what it takes to beat someone like EMS Madara/Hashirama as a matter of fact, they're both always a tier above; he is inferior to both.

boy u are ridiculous ems madara would lose boy u stated everything madara could do and nothing nagato can do...nagato has multiple summons that dog would keep multiplying and he can absorb susano chakra and block susano attacks and soul removal and he can separate madara from susano and if madara's sword swipe is strong enough to stop planetary devastation while he's attacking that sphere nagato will be attacking him..duhh

Three flies were able to best him in his prime along with his techniques; with feats and power inferior to that of which EMS madara possesses. His soul removal methods are timely and leaves him stationary; opened for attacks. Madara has many long range jutsu which already strikes out the possiblily of physical combat. At the end of the day Madara has numerous ways of beating Nagato and a counter for everything he has to offer. It's no suprise as he himself was considered a prodigy at 16 and canonically bested two Jinton users without the use of perfect Susano'o.

okay lets say nagato is ripping out madara's soul and the kyubi jumps in well thats what the rhino, panda, bird, and dog is for to occupy the kyubi and dnt say the kyubi will tb ball all of the because nagato told naruto the only way to defeat the dogs were to attack him so they would just keep multiplying no matter how many times the nine tails would tb ball it...oh i forgot the lizard too...please ems loses this

The 9 tails canonically bested and is superior to Bijuu's 1-7 which are more of a threat than nagato's summons. 1 bijuu dama would disintegrate all and the chameleon makes no difference as the sharingan can see chakra colour.

 

[Da Best Ever]

Don't forget, nagato has gedo mazo as well.

yeah i knw i just was making a piont to him but yeah nagato can synch with the gedo mazo and use that soul removal tech he did on hanzo's whole army

 

[closecombat22]

Pain mid diff

 

[Da Best Ever]

No dear.

Knowing nagato, he would probably try something that foolish as it wouldn't make any difference [

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] As i said, Nagato doesn't have what it takes to beat someone like EMS Madara/Hashirama as a matter of fact, they're both always a tier above; he is inferior to both.



Three flies were able to best him in his prime along with his techniques; with feats and power inferior to that of which EMS madara possesses. His soul removal methods are timely and leaves him stationary; opened for attacks. Madara has many long range jutsu which already strikes out the possiblily of physical combat. At the end of the day Madara has numerous ways of beating Nagato and a counter for everything he has to offer. It's no suprise as he himself was considered a prodigy at 16 and canonically bested two Jinton users without the use of perfect Susano'o.

lol u dnt knw if he used susano against ohnoki and muu or if he didnt so dnt act like u do... and i have a counter for everything u said he can do to nagato...and nagato was a prodigy at the age of 10 mastering all 5 chakra natures and yin yang and yin-yang release...at 10> at 16

 

[Nagato and Pain]

No dear.

Knowing nagato, he would probably try something that foolish as it wouldn't make any difference [

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] As i said, Nagato doesn't have what it takes to beat someone like EMS Madara/Hashirama as a matter of fact, they're both always a tier above; he is inferior to both.



Three flies were able to best him in his prime along with his techniques; with feats and power inferior to that of which EMS madara possesses. His soul removal methods are timely and leaves him stationary; opened for attacks. Madara has many long range jutsu which already strikes out the possiblily of physical combat. At the end of the day Madara has numerous ways of beating Nagato and a counter for everything he has to offer. It's no suprise as he himself was considered a prodigy at 16 and canonically bested two Jinton users without the use of perfect Susano'o.


The 9 tails canonically bested and is superior to Bijuu's 1-7 which are more of a threat than nagato's summons. 1 bijuu dama would disintegrate all and the chameleon makes no difference as the sharingan can see chakra colour.

Nagato>ems madara
Summons, gedo mazo> fox

 

[Da Best Ever]

No dear.

Knowing nagato, he would probably try something that foolish as it wouldn't make any difference [

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] As i said, Nagato doesn't have what it takes to beat someone like EMS Madara/Hashirama as a matter of fact, they're both always a tier above; he is inferior to both.



Three flies were able to best him in his prime along with his techniques; with feats and power inferior to that of which EMS madara possesses. His soul removal methods are timely and leaves him stationary; opened for attacks. Madara has many long range jutsu which already strikes out the possiblily of physical combat. At the end of the day Madara has numerous ways of beating Nagato and a counter for everything he has to offer. It's no suprise as he himself was considered a prodigy at 16 and canonically bested two Jinton users without the use of perfect Susano'o.


The 9 tails canonically bested and is superior to Bijuu's 1-7 which are more of a threat than nagato's summons. 1 bijuu dama would disintegrate all and the chameleon makes no difference as the sharingan can see chakra colour.

yeah it would destroy the lizard but not the dog the dog has been hit with everything and just has multiplied thats what its designed for and deva path made it all the way to 8 tails against the kyubi dnt u think nagato can easily handle the kyubi...duhhh edo madara could probably beat nagato but not ems madara the rinnegan > ems by far obito said nagato was invincible knowing full well of madara's powers and hashirama's powers yet he still said nagato was invincible and zetsu said he cant be beat even in a weakened state and the black half of zetsu is madara's mind, which mean madara believed it to

 

[AlphaScythian]

Madara > nagato /thread

 

[Waltz]

lol u dnt knw if he used susano against ohnoki and muu or if he didnt so dnt act like u do... and i have a counter for everything u said he can do to nagato...and nagato was a prodigy at the age of 10 mastering all 5 chakra natures and yin yang and yin-yang release...at 10> at 16

I'll ignore the bold as it was never stated at age 10.

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My advice is that you actually read the manga before making silly comments.

 

[Da Best Ever]

I'll ignore the bold as it was never stated at age 10.

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My advice is that you actually read the manga before making silly comments.

child please it still didnt say he didnt use susano, u should really learn how to comprehend instead of filling in your own opinion on something before making silly comments...

 

[Waltz]

Don't forget, nagato has gedo mazo as well.

Makes no difference.

Bear in mind time there is a forced time limit using this technique. During his fight against hanzou, Nagato used the technique for around 30-40 seconds and it put him in a life threatening state. If your referring to Malnourished nagato he'd die once he uses the technique, if healthy, Madara is capable of easily evading the the technique for such short time, not to mention the distance between the two would play a major role. Either Nagato will die from his life force and chakra being totally depleted (causing the gedo to automatically reverse summoned) or He'll be forced to cancel the technique in order to save his life. He could also use perfect susanoo's kenjutsu to detach nagato from the gedo, automatically reverse summoning it. Madara takes this low-mid diff.

 

[AlphaScythian]

This is laughable.
Madara can form PS in matter of seconds. In next second sword slash will be unleashed and kill pain nagato w/e and blow the rest of it away. Theres nothing nagato can do.
No need to talk over other abilities