Nagato easy way to defeat perfect susanoo
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Kira was Righteous
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Yeah Madara preta path>Nagato flying using Celestial Terra Blast while controlling the weather
Its made out of chakra you dont seem to understand that if Susanoo attacks Nagato it will be aborbed simple.It is just chakra its classified in the databook as ninjutsu
It cannot hit Nagato without being absorbed unless you can prove Kishimoto wrong
It cant attack Nagato its made out of chakra.Its like butter attacking a hot knife ...kind off
1.Nagato is not using a meteor style attack there hes using it on Naruto and the Rock is attracted as well
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2.This is Madara real sized Meteors
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3.This is Nagatos Chibaku Tensei through a tired deva.Nagato Celestial Terra Blast would be bigger then anything Madara could ever dream off
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4.This is what Madara has dreamed in doing all his life
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best way is a really powerful concentrated shinra that drags the user out of susanoo along with a small section of it pulling them towards Nagato's hand then Nagato's sucks the soul out.
There is nothing that susanoo can do to Nagato.
He can suck in an infinite amount of chakra.
Perfect susanoo is all chakra, if it tries to crush nagato with it's fists Nagato absorbs his arm, uses the other three Nagato absorbs it, uses it's legs ect ect.
There is nothing that susanoo can do to Nagato.
He can suck in an infinite amount of chakra.
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Awkward Linguist
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TheSages456
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as you can see here preta path has a limit:
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narutos rasenshuriken was actually breaking through preta paths barrier. extremely powerful techs can get through it. perfect susanos sword slash would go right through the barrier like butter.
iMicLykTyson
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Lol not even that, the slash is not a ninjutsu Nagato gets crushed
But + rep nice observation
Kira was Righteous
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Did it break through? or was it absorbed?
Nagato Preta path is must stronger and faster then Preta Path and he absorbed a Lariat from the 8 tails in seconds
Everything Susanoo is made out of is chakra and threfore can be absorbedLol not even that, the slash is not a ninjutsu Nagato gets crushed
But + rep nice observation
Your talking about the shockwave which can be simply nullified by Nagato flying in the air with Preta path or hitting the Shockwave with a Shinra Tensei if hes on the ground
1.Kyubbi>Perfect Susanoo
2.Deva path weakened shinra tensei
3.It stopped it in its tracks the weakened one
4.Nagato Shinra Tensei is stronger it blew up a forest its normal one
5.Nagato charging up Shinra Tensei would reduce Susanoo to dust
MilwaukeegHost
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Two things:
1) You are ASSUMING that Perfect Susano'o is just a Chakra Cloak, and not and actual PHYSICAL ENTITY. Preta Path will only suck in PURE CHAKRA (as in BM Naruto for example) but not chakra turned physical, like Killer Bee and the 8 Tails Perfect Bijuu. Nagato was able to suck in Chakra from Killer Bee's Chakra Cloak Mode (imperfect transformation) but not when he FULLY turns into the 8 Tails.
2) BOTH NAGATO AND MADARA CURRENTLY HAVE RINNEGAN. When Perfect Susano'o was activated, Madara had RINNEGAN eyes activated. In theory, Madara could possibly use Almighty Push to get himself out of the gravitational pull. Or he could simply cover the Shinra Tensei with a Meteor (or two) to cover the gravitational pull of Shinra Tensei.
TheSages456
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perfect susanos sword slash is infinitely stronger than anything 6 tailed naruto can do so whats your point?
Itachi Uchiwa
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:') remind me of what madara said ? : "No one have combated against PS and survived "
so doesn't that phrase make you even Wonder for a moment how Hard this can be ?
so doesn't that phrase make you even Wonder for a moment how Hard this can be ?
Itachi cannot be beaten without knowledge, too. Tsukuyomi, nuff said.
And this statement refers to Nagato, since the secret of Pain is that the real person is just controlling these dead bodies and can create Pain over and over again, even if someone has beaten the six paths of Pain. This is what is meant with you can't beat him without having knowledge, because you actually don't beat Nagato when killing the bodies.
This completely differs from Madaras statement about Susanoo, which can according to him crush anyone.
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All Nagato must do is get close. The amount of chakra in that Perfect Susanoo is much less than that of a tailed beast. Considering Nagato robbed Killer Bee of his chakra cloak almost instantly, Perfect Susanoo will be absorbed in seconds. That is the hard, cold truth. Yes Madara can blast him away with the shockwave, although this can be countered by Shinra Tensei.
Itachi Uchiwa
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Exactly, he lost to Hashi. , then absolutly not by Shinra Tensei
look um a Nagato fan as well , but truth is truth ,
All what susanoo will suffer from Shinra tensei is a repulsion. And not a 'nuclear, Atomic, crucial, Unstoppable, two headed flames Explosion , or whatever!
it will just be repulsed and that all ! :') so you think that's how Nagato will win against PS ?
what a ""statement"" you have here
Here you going to compare apple with pears. First of all the Chakra cloak doesn't possess near the amount of Chakra a Biju has but a small part. Kisame absorbed the bulk of Killerbees Chakra cloak with one swing of his Samehada, so this isn't actually a comparison. Also it depends on the scope of the Chakra. No matter how much Chakra the Biju cloak actually had, the cloak was human sized and could therefore easily be pulled inside Nagatos body with the Preta Path. Ninjutsus with a large scope are need more time for being absorbed, like it was th case with Jiraiyas Katon technique or Chou Oodama Rasengan. People are an ant in front of the perfect Susanoo, of course the Preta Path will need a lot of more time to absorb this scope of Chakra than a human sized Chakra cloak, whether from a Biju or not.
The same can be said for your argument. You cannot compare Preta Path when used by Pain with the Preta Path when it is just in Nagato's body. It has a feat of robbing Killer Bee's chakra instantly. May I remind you that the amount of chakra in this form is so great that it was able to restore Nagato to his youthful appearance. Now, people seem to think that Susanoo is some sort of chakra machine, equalling that of a Bijuu. This is incorrect. Susanoo is formed through the materialisation of the user's chakra. Considering Madara is not known to have chakra comparable to that of a Bijuu, that particular assumption (Perfect Susanoo having Bijuu like chakra) is false. Madara most likely fought Hashirama with this jutsu at VOTE, along with other techniques. That means it doesn't even take up all of his chakra. If Nagato, in his real body, was to attempt to absorb Susanoo, it would absorb it at an incredible rate, with both the lower and upper body being devoured in mere seconds.
As I already said, the Biju cloak is not nearly the amount of Chakra a Biju possesses and secondly the scope is the important thing.
Imagine it like when you are eating something. The Bijucloak is a piece of chocolate while the perfect Susanoo is a watermelon. Sure, the piece of chocolate has more calories than the watermelon though being a lot of smaller, like the Biju cloak may possesses more Chakra than the perfect Susanoo. And do you need the same time for eating a watermelon like when you are eating a piece of chocolate, only because it has more calories? Another example would be a cup of cola which has more calories than a bottle with water but is drunk far faster. Think about it. Even if the Biju cloak had more Chakra than Susanoo, what I doubt to be honest, the scope of the Chakra you have to pull inside you is a lot of smaller than by the perfect Susanoo. The larger the scope is you have to absorb, the longer you need therefore.
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No. The size is absolutely irrelevant. It is the amount of chakra which is important. The more chakra, the longer it takes to absorb. If you have one 'calorie' worth of chakra, and it is spread over 100 square meters, it will be devoured instantly. If you have 100 'calories' worth of chakra in one square meter, it will take slightly longer. This is why Naruto's claim that Nagato's techniques are "one a way higher level" seems all the more impressive. He was able to absorb that much chakra that quickly. While the Perfect Susanoo may be great in size, it is not great in chakra when compared to a complete Bijuu. It may be around the same amount Bee had in his V2 cloak. I already explained how it is made up of even less than Madara's chakra reserve. Nagato already swiped this chakra instantaneously. He will eat up the Susanoo in a time period of seconds.
It is the complete opposite. You are actually saying that you could drink 5 liter water faster than a cup of cola, since the water has less calories, like Susanoo has less chakra than the Biju cloak. Amount is just a synonym for scope, the larger an object, or Ninjutsu ist, the longer time you have to take in order to eat, or to absorb it. No matter how much Chakra the Biju cloak actually has, it is human sized, while Susanoo has the size of Gedo Mazo. Do you need more time for eating a chocolate bar than to eat a watermelon because of the amount of calories? In fact the amount, or the scope of the technique plays the main roll, because you can't absorb something like this instantly, because the amount of this object is just overwhelming.
And besides, how can you actually say how much Chakra a Bijucloak has? In fact the cloak hasn't nearly the amount of Chakra a Biju have. Be is just taking a small part of Hachibis Chakra to pull it over him, similarly when Naruto is taking a bit of Kuramas Chakra in order to cover himself with it.
And if you say that Preta Path can absorb a Biju cloak instantly, let you know that Samehada did this job as well.