My tier List in Narutoverse

[Zephyrus Uchiha]

Nice list! I agree with it completely tbh... people seem to think that itachi should be higher, when in fact he's weaker than sasuke and he isn't even on the same tier as naruto.

Madara is completely overrated due to his being an edo, If he wasn't an edo he would of been dead by now. Madara wouldn't even be half as strong as he is now, meaning a lot of the people who are on the same tier would give a pretty awesome fight if not beat him.

True true!! Also, he got Hashirama face-implants... We prefer natural beauty...

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[Bogard]

Good sir, you have no right to claim that Kishimotos logic = your logic. Minato and Itachi should be in the same ligue.

"I thought he(Minato) would never be surpassed" 4th Raikage
"Only you(Naruto) can surpass the fourth" Kakashi
"An unrivalled strength,.. aiming at his level everyone now set up" Kishimoto(autor of this manga)
"Everyone is pale in comparison with the fourth" Jiraya

When Itachi has a hype even close to these ones, call me

 

[Turson]

"I thought he(Minato) would never be surpassed" 4th Raikage
"Only you(Naruto) can surpass the fourth" Kakashi
"An unrivalled strength,.. aiming at his level everyone now set up" Kishimoto(autor of this manga)
"Everyone is pale in comparison with the fourth" Jiraya

When Itachi has a hype even close to these ones, call me

Itachi will never be as famous as Minato. Most of his actions took place in the shadow. However, people who knew him (Tobi, Kabuto) always were talking about with great respect. Btw. skills are more important than hype.

 

[Bogard]

Itachi will never be as famous as Minato. Most of his actions took place in the shadow. However, people who knew him (Tobi, Kabuto) always were talking about with great respect. Btw. skills are more important than hype.

Nope, hype is more important since hype is Kishimotos opinion. Don't know how you rate skills between Minato and Itachi when we see Itachi almost everytime in this manga when Minato has pratically no screentime. In this case, it's easy for you to judge Itachi, but how can you judge Minato? We don't even know 50% of his full arsenal. Why do you think i put Hiruzen that high? It's because of his hype. Same goes for Hanzo and others

 

[Naruto9001]

I just wanted to share my opinion about ninja levels in Naruto. Not saying my list is better than someone else since there is no list better than anyone else unless Kishimoto himself decide to create his own list, but the following list is just my personal feeling about Narutoverse characters going by feats but also by hype(very important)

SS Tier(God level)
Sage of Six Paths

S Tier(Legendary)
Madara
Obito
Hashirama
Naruto
Nagato
Minato
Hiruzen

A(+) Tier(Upper Kage)
Tobirama
Izuna
Muu
2nd Mizukage
Onoki
Kabuto
Bee
Sasuke

A(-)Tier(Kage)

Danzo
Jiraya(SM)
Shisui
Itachi
Hanzo
Orochimaru
Kakashi
Gai
3rd Raikage
Kakuzu
4th Raikage
Kin/Gin brothers
Deidara
Sakumo Hatake
Tsunade
Sasori
Sandaime Kazekage
Kisame
Gaara
Yagura
Mei

B Tier(Elite Ninja)
Darui
Kitsuchi
Chiyo
Mangetsu Hozuki
Hidan
Mifune
Zabuza
Konan
Chojuro
Yamato
Fu
Torune
Ao
Sai
Choji(BM)
Choza
Kimimaro
Haku
Asuma
Shikaku
Inoichi
Kurotsuchi
C

C Tier (strong chunin/s-jonin)
Shikamaru
Rock Lee
Jugo
Neji
Omoi
Temari
Kankuro
Samui
Karui
Shino
Kiba
Izumo/Kotetsu
Kurenai
Kidomaru
Sakon/Ukon
Sakura
Jirobo
Shizune
Hinata
Tayuya

Feel free to respond(without flaming if possible) to give your opinions about it

Kabuto should be on legendary tier with his edo tensei combined with all of the sound four and team taka's powers not to mention with his dragon sage mode he stomped Sasuke without edo tensei but yet you have them on the same tier idiotic. We know nothing about Izuna or Tobirama but there upper kages?

 

[Bogard]

Kabuto should be on legendary tier with his edo tensei combined with all of the sound four and team taka's powers not to mention with his dragon sage mode he stomped Sasuke without edo tensei but yet you have them on the same tier idiotic. We know nothing about Izuna or Tobirama but there upper kages?

Izuna was said to be around Madaras level before he achieved EMS. Just seeing by how Madara is strong should tell you how Izuna was. Tobirama was Hashiramas brother, a master in suiton jutsus, created even a S/T ninjutsu, Edo Tensei and probably other jutsus. Being Hashiramas brother means they probably trained a lot together, that's why he became Senju leader and Hokage after him(maybe when Madara was fighting Hashirama, he was fighting Izuna). About Kabuto, i don't count Edo Tensei, and you forget also that Sasuke wasn't going all out

 

[Turson]

Nope, hype is more important since hype is Kishimotos opinion.

And skills arent Kishimotos opinion? Hes the one who is creating characters and their fights after all. Not to mention that Kishi likes to exaggerate. Databook states that Amaterasu is as hot as sun, while obviously, it isnt.

In this case, it's easy for you to judge Itachi, but how can you judge Minato?

Normally, by judging his actual skills. He displayed enough to compare his strenght to others. And he surely isnt two tiers above Itachi, thats ridiculous.

 

[Bogard]

And skills arent Kishimotos opinion? Hes the one who is creating characters and their fights after all. Not to mention that Kishi likes to exaggerate. Databook states that Amaterasu is as hot as sun, while obviously, it isnt.

What you don't understand is that skills are Kishimotos opinion comparing to a character when hype is more general. What i mean is that if for example Itachi faces Tenten in a speed competition, he will blitz her easily. So by skills, we say that Itachi is too fast, but if he faces another opponent like Raikage for example, he is the one who gets blitzed. Does that mean at that time that Itachi is slow? So no, skills like i've said can only be judged by what we're seeing on a comparison between characters, when hype is more like a general opinion which obviously is better than feats

Normally, by judging his actual skills. He displayed enough to compare his strenght to others. And he surely isnt two tiers above Itachi, thats ridiculous.

Yes we can compare what we've seen from him, i'm not saying the contrary, but what i'm saying is that you must pay attention in the fact that what we've seen from him is not full power. How many times have we seen him even fighting? Itachi is strong but from my point of view at least, he isn't on Minatos level. I don't even understand why in every threads everyone always want to compare them or create a flame war when i've listed a lot of characters, but it's only Minato and Itachi that you're seeing

 

[Shisui Namikaze]

Good list +rep
I think 3rd raikage should be in the S category and madara should be in the SS category only because of now he's a combination of him and hashirama. Combination of senju and uchiha = rikudou sennin. Not saying he could beat the sage. Just saying he's above legendary.

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

Hey bogard nice list tbh
and i see this thread reminds me of old bogard
nice to see you are back from trolling xd

 

[Borin123]

Orochimaru is way higher

 

[Turson]

Yes we can compare what we've seen from him, i'm not saying the contrary, but what i'm saying is that you must pay attention in the fact that what we've seen from him is not full power. How many times have we seen him even fighting?

Therefore, all that matters for me are displayed skills. Empty hype is useless, since you cant judge a technique you didnt even see, you cant tell if others would be able to counter it etc. If I remember correctly, Minato had 3 fights in manga, and if you ask me he displayed enough skills to compare him to others.

 

[Kinimaster]

Which consensus? Between fanboys consensus and Kishimoto logic i prefer using Kishimotos logic
I must say that i got the inspiration by looking at your tier list, but no i didn't copied yours About Kakashi i know his limits, it's just that i feel sometimes he is underrated, but the fact i didn't put him above doesn't mean he can't beat some people supposed to be above him cuz Kamui is really overpowered. It's just the overall power and hype that i rate in this thread

I agree with this. Thanks for the +rep

Let me tell you how this was, you posted your list, being a Minato fanboy like you, the only thing that you could get biased are Itachi's and Minato placements its obvious because its one of the most heated debates. But then i realized you went overboard in downplaying and overrating. Im just going to say one thing, Minato's feats are like half a battle against Obito and half a battle against the kumo brothers(feats that matter), while Itachi has been displaying all kinds of magnificent stuff since the beggining, if you like hype too much you are definetely going to be biased, Minato's hype its the same hype any DEAD Hokage will get, the difference with his and Hashiramas is that with Madara's words we can measure Hashirama as better than EMS Madara, Minato's hype are just words from the people close to him, Itachi on the otherside gets Hype despite being almost unknown to most people, all his mission were undercovered, he never had the moment to shine and being known like any Hokage. But im telling you in most forums and lists Itachi is above Minato, for obvious reasons, way better feats, The only comparison that Kishimoto puts that inlude both characters favours Itachi, saying no one has seen someone like him in the academy, which Minato attended, but i wont use that because its not needed, Itachi logically should be placed above Minato.

PS: Despite i dont like Minato at all, i find him the most boring(in fighting and background) character ever, i would never place him that low as you placed Itachi, thats why im dissapointed, youare obviously biased in overrating your favourite and downplaying Itachi, a lot.

 

[Simple Math]

its a fine list

 

[Bogard]

Let me tell you how this was, you posted your list, being a Minato fanboy like you, the only thing that you could get biased are Itachi's and Minato placements its obvious because its one of the most heated debates. But then i realized you went overboard in downplaying and overrating. Im just going to say one thing, Minato's feats are like half a battle against Obito and half a battle against the kumo brothers(feats that matter), while Itachi has been displaying all kinds of magnificent stuff since the beggining, if you like hype too much you are definetely going to be biased, Minato's hype its the same hype any DEAD Hokage will get, the difference with his and Hashiramas is that with Madara's words we can measure Hashirama as better than EMS Madara, Minato's hype are just words from the people close to him, Itachi on the otherside gets Hype despite being almost unknown to most people, all his mission were undercovered, he never had the moment to shine and being known like any Hokage. But im telling you in most forums and lists Itachi is above Minato, for obvious reasons, way better feats, The only comparison that Kishimoto puts that inlude both characters favours Itachi, saying no one has seen someone like him in the academy, which Minato attended, but i wont use that because its not needed, Itachi logically should be placed above Minato.

PS: Despite i dont like Minato at all, i find him the most boring(in fighting and background) character ever, i would never place him that low as you placed Itachi, thats why im dissapointed, youare obviously biased in overrating your favourite and downplaying Itachi, a lot.

Honestly i didn't even noticed Minato was 2tiers above Itachi when i created the list. I only gave my personal opinion concerning a lot of characters. It's only when i realised people like you were still complaining about that, that i realised it, but i understand that if i don't put Itachi on Minatos level or above, i will always be called a Minato fanboy or a Itachi hater, it's something i hear everytime. That's why your opinion means nothing me.

Besides from that, i just want to add that the viz translation came out, and that teacher who talked about Itachis genius never said what you said

 

[Kinimaster]

Honestly i didn't even noticed Minato was 2tiers above Itachi when i created the list. I only gave my personal opinion concerning a lot of characters. It's only when i realised people like you were still complaining about that, that i realised it, but i understand that if i don't put Itachi on Minatos level or above, i will always be called a Minato fanboy or a Itachi hater, it's something i hear everytime. That's why your opinion means nothing me.

Besides from that, i just want to add that the viz translation came out, and that teacher who talked about Itachis genius never said what you said

I dont know how old you are, but im going to assume you are not dumb, but if you being a known Minato fanboy posts a tier list, which you think are the characters that are going to be discussed the most, specifically with that list? If you dont want to hear complainings or opinions, and if you dont care for either then dont create a thread like this, or you magically just wanna hear good things about it, being as biased as you are? Unless you are in some Minato fanboys club, you will hear good and bad thing about this, thats why you made your list public in the first place isnt it?

 

[Bogard]

I dont know how old you are, but im going to assume you are not dumb, but if you being a known Minato fanboy posts a tier list, which you think are the characters that are going to be discussed the most, specifically with that list? If you dont want to hear complainings or opinions, and if you dont care for either then dont create a thread like this, or you magically just wanna hear good things about it, being as biased as you are? Unless you are in some Minato fanboys club, you will hear good and bad thing about this, thats why you made your list public in the first place isnt it?

I never said i don't want to hear opinions. I said your opinion especially means nothing to me cuz i don't want to discuss with someone who can't do something else than calling others fanboys and shouting to everyone when his beloved character is not in a place he wants. My age won't help you also cuz you're more like the kids in the discussion if you ask me. Only kids acts like you do. Notice that in all our discussions, i never insulted you or called you a fanboy or a hater. I'm only hear to discuss, but if i see that the discussion is meaningless i prefer to stop it

 

[Kinimaster]

I never said i don't want to hear opinions. I said your opinion especially means nothing to me cuz i don't want to discuss with someone who can't do something else than calling others fanboys and shouting to everyone when his beloved character is not in a place he wants. My age won't help you also cuz you're more like the kids in the discussion if you ask me. Only kids acts like you do. Notice that in all our discussions, i never insulted you or called you a fanboy or a hater. I'm only hear to discuss, but if i see that the discussion is meaningless i prefer to stop it

So you went defensive on me, you want me to collect some posts about you that clearly put you in the Fanboy status? You are only here to discuss but you are not smart enough to know how people would react to this? You create a thread like this expecting polite stuff when half of the base hears you everyday talking just good stuff about Minato? You think your pseudo-neutral speech you just gave me, suddenly makes you a logical and reasonable person out of nowhere after that List? I wont deny i like Itachi, i dont care if you place Minato above him, but with that list im damn right in calling you a fanboy, and if for you thats kiddish at least i dont have any problem in spelling that for you, because thats what you are. So dont try to make yourself the victim out here, you posted one of the fanboyish lists i ever seen, so much that it could be classified as flame baiting.

 

[Bogard]

So you went defensive on me, you want me to collect some posts about you that clearly put you in the Fanboy status? You are only here to discuss but you are not smart enough to know how people would react to this? You create a thread like this expecting polite stuff when half of the base hears you everyday talking just good stuff about Minato? You think your pseudo-neutral speech you just gave me, suddenly makes you a logical and reasonable person out of nowhere after that List? I wont deny i like Itachi, i dont care if you place Minato above him, but with that list im damn right in calling you a fanboy, and if for you thats kiddish at least i dont have any problem in spelling that for you, because thats what you are. So dont try to make yourself the victim out here, you posted one of the fanboyish lists i ever seen, so much that it could be classified as flame baiting.

I know you won't believe it but Itachi is the 3rd character i like the most, and i really didn't care at all about the difference in position between Minato and Itachi. Personally when i create a thread, i don't think about how it will go, i don't think about others opinions. When i create a thread, the only thing i think about is mine, my opinion. After that i hear and discuss to others to see what they think about it. Now people could appreciate or depreciate it, but the thing i've noticed is that when Itachi is involved in a thread(especially when he isn't described as a god-like), it almost everytime turns to a flame war where people insult others or call fanboys or haters.

Don't even know if you really know what is the meaning of being a fanboy. Fanboy takes a sense when someone is overrating a character just because he likes him. It's not the case for Minato, at least it's what i think. Sure i like him more, but the manga itself place Minato in this position(if you want to complain about it, go and see Kishimoto), so in this case i don't see where i overrate him.

Now like i've said, you can believe what you want, call me a fanboy or hater if you want, you can even say i'm only playing the victime if you want, i'm not going to try to convince you anyway

 

[Strict]

You put Bee above Itachi though he doesn't stand a chance against him. If Itachi didn't warned Bee of his own movements, he would already be finished. Put Itachi one level above and Minato one level below. Put also Bee one level below.