My thoughts on Minato Namikaze

[Knights Saotome]

Difference between Minato and Itachi?

Minato:

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Itachi:

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What Itachi thinks about Minato?

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So why do Itachi fanboys always have the need to bash Minato's character when the manga and Itachi himself respect the guy? I really wonder U_U

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[Enton]

the problem is that you dont even read the manga. to be honest, its members like you which caused all the good members to leave smh.

you talk about not protecting his students despite kakashi being the same rank as minato. they were no longer his responsibility, they were kakashi's because he was sent on a different mission.

you have no proof that minato is a sensor. he has only shown tracking abilities. even sasuke and co 'sensed' naruto's chakra and they arent sensors. no proof that he could have sensed obito whos chakra signature changed by being half zetsu.

you fool. if he didnt seal the 9 tails, konoha would've lost the strongest tailed beast. manga already said their military force was at it lowest around minato's times. other nations would've taken advantage. naruto was to master the power to give the village protection. his son's happiness < his village as he said, but oh hey you itachi fanboy want to say he was selfish. how ironic considering what itachi did was the same thing but worse.

his reign was short because he gave his life for his village. what a troll comment.

as i said. its members like you trying to stir up trouble which cause the good members to leave. -neg.

 

[Ryuujinn]

Well atleast hes better than oro who got raped by sasuke neg off not to mention he with all his plans n prep failed to defeat 3rd even with 2 legendary shinobi

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

ppl forget, the akatsuki where strong shinobi because they practice a number of forbidden jutsu. so some have access to abilities even kage cant do to ethics

just as reaper death seal is a forbidden jutsu. actually. Pain Itachi kisame and sasori never used forbidden techs in battle during their lives. pain and sassori just did ****ed up things to prepare for battle

*** has nothing to do with this, its about being mature.
and obtio being leader has nothing to do with the point i made. i point out that since zetsu is good at hiding his presence, to the point where even your beloved itachi cant even seance him, the why cant obtio? seeing as he's half zetsu? plus i have never heard of the 4th being a sensory type, kushuni yeah, but not him.

no being mature has nothing do with what the "law" consider. in the end you can disagree with my opinon i dont care fanboys will fanboy

 

[FourthLegacy]

He wasn't there to protect his students.
Well my point is that it's not like he was chilling at home. He probably had another important fight. One that if you had lose, well it would impact the war, and they would lose.

He put the Jinchuriki inside Naruto cause he had trust in his son. Also he thought it would be very helpful.

Spoiler

"well what if he couldn't control it?

well that's why he left the rest to The Third and Kakashi to watch over Naruto.

Also he used the death reaper seal because that was his strongest seal, he was probably afraid that if used some other seal it would have been too weak.
Also he used this seal so that he can seal some of both the parents chakra into Naruto, so that they could talk to him in the future.

Also he wasn't unsuccesful if it weren't for him there wouldn't be a "Hidden Leaf" If he hadn't stopped Obito, he would've destroyed the Leaf.
He sacrificed everything he had, left behind his new born baby and dying wife to save the village. He could've been controlled by his emotions but he still chose to do the right thing. He sacrificed Naruto to save the Leaf. If you ask me that's amazing, he's not selfish.He was thinking of the village.

Also to add, even if he had saved Kushina, Naruto would not have been saved and that would've been an awful life.

This new Manga states that how he failed how he lived too short. But how can you blame him? You can't control when you're going to die, it just happens
and tbh i don't think you're a fan of him

Spoiler

1. First church of Itachi, you'd probably come at me if i said Minato>Itachi
2. You would have seen all his amazing deeds if you were , indeed a "fan" of him. I think you just said you were a fan to strengthen your argument.

Also another thing "Long term the Village" well if he didn't save the village there wouldn't be a village. I don't think the Third could teleport a bijuu bomb.
I don't think The Third could have killed Obito.
He sacrificed having a good life for the sake of the village.
Also at this chapter when he said "I could have stopped the Coup" That was just a what if. Just like when you change your answer on a test and you figure out that your past answer was right and you're all like "what if i didn't change it?". How could he stop it? The Third couldn't? It was just one of those what if moments. Even if he was alive i don't think he could have stopped it.

 

[The Paradox]

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[pateuvasiliu]

He failed to protect his Students, his wife, his son, and long term the village

It was not his fault Obito died. They were sent on a mission. War is war.

Rin was already a Jounin when she was killed, Minato was not responsible for her and Kakashi.

His wife willingly sacrificed herself for Naruto and would have died for the village, too. She wanted to seal the Kyuubi inside her and die. Minato chose to let Naruto meet his mother instead, and that lead to Naruto being able to defeat the Kyuubi.

As for Naruto, Minato wanted him to be raised a hero. It's Hiruzen that changed his name and never told the villagers who Naruto was.

He failed to notice the "masked man" even though minato is a skilled sensory type. this leads to the unsealling of the 9 tails and its attack on the village

He was busy keeping the Kyuubi sealed by himself, which is no mere feat.

It's Kakashi's fault for telling graves secrets that allowed Obito to attack them.

It's Hiruzen's fault for not being there and letting ANBUs guard Kushina and we know that ANBUs are the biggest fodders ever.

He was selfish he wanted his son to be have power and to be a legend a burden that ruined most of narutos life.

How Minato Chose to defeat the 9 tails, the reaper death seal. was not the best choice to to use against the 9 tails either.
We have if akatsuki members can defeat Jinchurikis and bijuus. that tells us the Kyubi could have been beaten through a different means.

No. Minato didn't seal Kurama for Naruto to be a badass. He sealed it because he believed in the Toad's prophecy and because he believed that Naruto would be able to contain Kurama. This was later proven true and Naruto is the only thing keeping the Alliance alive.

As for Kurama, you can't kill it. Akatsuki caught the Jins. They didn't kill them.

You can't KILL a tailed beast. You can only seal it. You can kill a Jin, though.

Minato had the shortest and most unsuccessful reign as hokage

Really? Hiruzen's failure to kill Orochimaru resulted in him and a ton of shinobi of Konoha getting killed in Oro's invasion.

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

the problem is that you dont even read the manga. to be honest, its members like you which caused all the good members to leave smh.

you talk about not protecting his students despite kakashi being the same rank as minato. they were no longer his responsibility, they were kakashi's because he was sent on a different mission.

you have no proof that minato is a sensor. he has only shown tracking abilities. even sasuke and co 'sensed' naruto's chakra and they arent sensors. no proof that he could have sensed obito whos chakra signature changed by being half zetsu.

you fool. if he didnt seal the 9 tails, konoha would've lost the strongest tailed beast. manga already said their military force was at it lowest around minato's times. other nations would've taken advantage. naruto was to master the power to give the village protection. his son's happiness < his village as he said, but oh hey you itachi fanboy want to say he was selfish. how ironic considering what itachi did was the same thing but worse.

his reign was short because he gave his life for his village. what a troll comment.

as i said. its members like you trying to stir up trouble which cause the good members to leave. -neg.

neg rep me i dont care and yes i do read the manga. Im just expressing my opinions on a character i really feel

He saved the village once and caused a sh1tload of trouble. He had the shortest and most unsuccessful reign as hokage and you cant deny that

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Most unsuccesful?

During Hiruzen's Konoha was invaded, he failed to kill Orochimaru, the Uchihas were massacred.

 

[Knights Saotome]

anywho the char bashing has now reached a point where it will attract mods, im out. bottom line, the 4th hokage is worthy of the name hokage, and acted as such to ensure his villages continued safety, same with itachi, they failed in some ways yes, but the end result was the same, also you cant say itachi didnt fail without admitting the 4th didnt fail, and that the fouth failed but itachi didnt because they both, more or less did the same thing.

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

He wasn't there to protect his students.
Well my point is that it's not like he was chilling at home. He probably had another important fight. One that if you had lose, well it would impact the war, and they would lose.

He put the Jinchuriki inside Naruto cause he had trust in his son. Also he thought it would be very helpful.

Spoiler

"well what if he couldn't control it?

well that's why he left the rest to The Third and Kakashi to watch over Naruto.

Also he used the death reaper seal because that was his strongest seal, he was probably afraid that if used some other seal it would have been too weak.
Also he used this seal so that he can seal some of both the parents chakra into Naruto, so that they could talk to him in the future.

Also he wasn't unsuccesful if it weren't for him there wouldn't be a "Hidden Leaf" If he hadn't stopped Obito, he would've destroyed the Leaf.
He sacrificed everything he had, left behind his new born baby and dying wife to save the village. He could've been controlled by his emotions but he still chose to do the right thing. He sacrificed Naruto to save the Leaf. If you ask me that's amazing, he's not selfish.He was thinking of the village.

Also to add, even if he had saved Kushina, Naruto would not have been saved and that would've been an awful life.

This new Manga states that how he failed how he lived too short. But how can you blame him? You can't control when you're going to die, it just happens
and tbh i don't think you're a fan of him

Spoiler

1. First church of Itachi, you'd probably come at me if i said Minato>Itachi
2. You would have seen all his amazing deeds if you were , indeed a "fan" of him. I think you just said you were a fan to strengthen your argument.

Also another thing "Long term the Village" well if he didn't save the village there wouldn't be a village. I don't think the Third could teleport a bijuu bomb.
I don't think The Third could have killed Obito.
He sacrificed having a good life for the sake of the village.
Also at this chapter when he said "I could have stopped the Coup" That was just a what if. Just like when you change your answer on a test and you figure out that your past answer was right and you're all like "what if i didn't change it?". How could he stop it? The Third couldn't? It was just one of those what if moments. Even if he was alive i don't think he could have stopped it.

you can not have a real legacy with only one real achievement

 

[FourthLegacy]

just as reaper death seal is a forbidden jutsu. actually. Pain Itachi kisame and sasori never used forbidden techs in battle during their lives. pain and sassori just did ****ed up things to prepare for battle

no being mature has nothing do with what the "law" consider. in the end you can disagree with my opinon i dont care fanboys will fanboy

Im pretty sure that killing humans to use them as puppets, is "forbidden" enough.

 

[Enton]

your thread has been destroyed by comments which you cant reply to. just 'oh its my opinion i dont care what actually happened in the manga'. leave man and make space for the proper, intelligent members who you displaced.

 

[FourthLegacy]

you can not have a real legacy with only one real achievement

Well..People only remember Tery fox because of his Marathon. That was only one real achievement and he has a humungous legacy.
EDIT: To That guy who found out the planet was round, he has a legacy
To christopher Columbus, the founder of America he has a legacy and that was one achievement.
Yes you can.

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Most unsuccesful?

During Hiruzen's Konoha was invaded, he failed to kill Orochimaru, the Uchihas were massacred.

the uchiha massacre was the same as kuramas attack in away for the good of the village


you cant compare a 69 year old man to a 24 year old one there are obviously big differences

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Well..People only remember Tery fox because of his Marathon. That was only one real achievement and he has a humungous legacy.

who is terry fox? exactly

 

[pateuvasiliu]

the uchiha massacre was the same as kuramas attack in away for the good of the village


you cant compare a 69 year old man to a 24 year old one there are obviously big differences

Hiruzen was 64 when the attack happened.

Onoki is kicking ass, and I bet he's older than that.

 

[naruttebayo]

neg rep me i dont care and yes i do read the manga. Im just expressing my opinions on a character i really feel

He saved the village once and caused a sh1tload of trouble. He had the shortest and most unsuccessful reign as hokage and you cant deny that

unsuccessful how, hashirama failed to kill madara, that seems bigger failure by your logic, because madara is behind everything.

 

[Ryuujinn]

Oro is biggest failure in NV
1. got raped by itachi
2. got raped by sasuke
3. fail to destory konaha all his plans are epic failure so far
by the way who actually oro defeated so far i cant remember atall atleast minato defeated obito

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

your thread has been destroyed by comments which you cant reply to. just 'oh its my opinion i dont care what actually happened in the manga'. leave man and make space for the proper, intelligent members who you displaced.

Now for you


these are my views on the 4th. i stated it and everyone has an opinion. and how about no. My views on the 4th as a leader. as a hokage he is definatly last on my list as of the current chapter. and the 4th himself stated he was a failure it doesnt matter how you look at it.