My thoughts on Minato Namikaze

[Enton]

i actually cant believe as an itachi fanboy you called minato's decision selfish. minato sacrificed naruto's happiness for the greater good by giving his life for the village's prosperity. itachi sacrificed sasuke's happiness for the greater good. yet you only call minato selfish? this thread is a complete and utter biased joke. church of itachi? pathetic really.

 

[FourthLegacy]

who is terry fox? exactly

Wow, the guy who basically started Cancer Research funds.

Why not ask about the other examples?

 

[Twin Steps]

Oro is biggest failure in NV
1. got raped by itachi
2. got raped by sasuke
3. fail to destory konaha all his plans are epic failure so far
by the way who actually oro defeated so far i cant remember atall atleast minato defeated obito

I'm sure he enjoys getting raped by Uchihas......

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Oro is biggest failure in NV
1. got raped by itachi
2. got raped by sasuke
3. fail to destory konaha all his plans are epic failure so far
by the way who actually oro defeated so far i cant remember atall atleast minato defeated obito

1 it waas itachi
2 he was deathly sick
succeeded in taking out the third even though he had forced the thirds hand

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

i actually cant believe as an itachi fanboy you called minato's decision selfish. minato sacrificed naruto's happiness for the greater good by giving his life for the village's prosperity. itachi sacrificed sasuke's happiness for the greater good. yet you only call minato selfish? this thread is a complete and utter biased joke. church of itachi? pathetic really.

i have already pointed out i fanboy orochimaru. the church of itachi was a joke i started 2 weeks ago and we got 72+ members

 

[Bogard]

I wonder why people are still arguing with him. He is obviously biased, so there is no point in arguing, especially when after pages of argumentation, he has shown no sign of reconsideration. Don't fall into his trap. He is only attempting to reach hottest threads U_U

 

[BladerItachi]

I agree completely, Let's make things interesting for those who are stupidly bashing your favourite character Itachi and Orochimaru :snick:

 

[Ryuujinn]

1 it waas itachi
2 he was deathly sick
succeeded in taking out the third even though he had forced the thirds hand

fact is fact oro failed in everything so far lol where minato successful in defeating obito and making naruto stronger which actually reason konaha survied and shinobi world stilll exist by the who actually oro defeated so far

 

[FourthLegacy]

Well let's just say this
Minato beat out Orochimaru for the spot of Hokage, so i guess Oro is more of a loser ;D~
"Response to him admitting himself as a failure"
Also at this chapter when he said "I could have stopped the Coup" That was just a what if. Just like when you change your answer on a test and you figure out that your past answer was right and you're all like "what if i didn't change it?". How could he stop it? The Third couldn't? It was just one of those what if moments. Even if he was alive i don't think he could have stopped it.

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

I wonder why people are still arguing with him. He is obviously biased, so there is no point in arguing, especially when after pages of argumentation, he has shown no sign of reconsideration. Don't fall into his trap. He is only attempting to reach hottest threads U_U

biassed

the only thing im guilty of being biased about is his parenting skills.

I even stated minato was one of my favorite characters

Itachi was a terrible son and brother aswell. all my favorite characters have certain failures

Im just pointing out the 4ths

 

[TheCCV]

This is just my views on the 4th hokage you can choose to hate on me if you want.

Keep in mind i love the 4th hokage as a ninja. but there are several things he failled to do.

He failed to protect his Students, his wife, his son, and long term the village

He was both a hokage and a teacher... he was bound to slip up soon or later, that was a lot of responsibility for one man. His wife... I kind of agree. He could have marked her with the seal, flashed back to the vilage, dropped off Naruto and flashed back before Obito could take out the 9 Tails, but hey. Plot.
And he actually gave Naruto one of the strongest weapons over, he totally did protect him. I kind of agree on the village, but everybody contributed to that evenly.

I get it it was time of war. but to his knowledge he let two of his students die. a burden until recently Kakashi has shouldered.

What?

He failed to notice the "masked man" even though minato is a skilled sensory type. this leads to the unsealling of the 9 tails and its attack on the villagep

Sensing abilities doesn't grant you the ability to detect someone's identity. Maybe their heritage, but not their complete person.

He was selfish he wanted his son to be have power and to be a legend a burden that ruined most of narutos life.

False, he wanted him to be a hero. Plus, there was nobody else he could seal the fox in.

How Minato Chose to defeat the 9 tails, the reaper death seal. was not the best choice to to use against the 9 tails either.

It still got the job done... what would YOU have done?

We have if akatsuki members can defeat Jinchurikis and bijuus. that tells us the Kyubi could have been beaten through a different means

You make it sound easy... plus, it's not fair to compare them.
Akatsuki members worked in pairs, not alone. And what they usually do is battle the jinchuuriki, not the actual Bijuu. And then their objective is to knock the Jinchuriki out before going into beast mode, not kill them. Deidara, Kakazu and Hidan were the ONLY member's we've actually seen to successfully capture a Jinchuriki in beast form, and that was only the 2/3 tails, not 9 tails. And Deidara's case was especially cheap because of his advantegous powers over a water type opponent. Pain himself couldn't even handle the 9 Tails. Minato however, did the best he could to at least drive him out of the village. And I ask again...

What would YOU have done?

Minato had the shortest and most unsuccessful reign as hokage

How do you know this?

Now minatos gift to naruto cant be the 9 tails yin chakra

I say this based on actual proof

Orochimarus arms were returned to him immediately after reaper death unseal. so logically that chakra has returned to naruto.

Minato fanboys can get over it honestly

Plot, he's still going to gift it to him.

Minatos abilities are only pared by the other kages. but He had failed in his duties as a teacher, a husband, a father, and a leader.

That's because he had the most responsiblity out of all the Kage. Like you said, he had a wife, temporary son, village, team of students, and war to tend to. Nobody else except Hashirama had as much responsiblity to shoulder as him. As I said before, he's only one man. He did the absolute best job he could.

 

[Erin]

I wonder why people are still arguing with him. He is obviously biased, so there is no point in arguing, especially when after pages of argumentation, he has shown no sign of reconsideration. Don't fall into his trap. He is only attempting to reach hottest threads U_U

I agree, it seems like many people capitalized on Minato's calling himself a "failure", but if anything, I thought it was humble, he was trying to lift Hiruzens spirit during that instance as well. Yes he failed, but so did every other hokage in one way or another, Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura, the Majority of the NV fails in some way, no matter how revered and respected they where. But failure doesnt make a bad ninja, it accounts for flaws that all ninja have. And almost every Minor-Main character will have a chance to finally redeem themselves. (see Gaara's father, Itachi, Nagato, etc.)

 

[FourthLegacy]

biassed

the only thing im guilty of being biased about is his parenting skills.

I even stated minato was one of my favorite characters

Itachi was a terrible son and brother aswell. all my favorite characters have certain failures

Im just pointing out the 4ths

if you were a fan of him you would have realized all the good things he has done.
You only said you're a fan to strengthen your argument.

You obviously didn't read that Paragraph i sent youu. Thanks bro.

 

[Sabuto Hayashi]

Well, everyone's entitled to their opinion.
To some, the way Minato handled the Kyuubi incident can be seen as a failure. Both him and Kushina died, and the village was partially destroyed. He failed to live long enough to do anything meaningful as the Hokage. He couldn't even stop Obito, leading to the creation of the Akatsuki and the 4th Shinobi World War.

However, I personally consider Minato to be successful. Yes, he did end up sacrificing himself, but he entrusted everything to Naruto, who is now one of the most important assets in the Alliance. He not only planted a fail-safe to ensure the Kyuubi wouldn't break free, but he also gave Naruto some of Kushina's chakra to help him tame Kurama.
In the end, Minato's future-proofing has given the Alliance a fighting chance in the war.

I would agree that he could have done more, as a sensei, for his team. His absences led to the 'death' of Obito, and to the death of Rin. If only he'd been there to save Obito, then the war wouldn't of happened, but you could argue that there would be no plot if that were the case.

Using the forbidden RDS was recklace he could have defeated the kyubii. because bijuus can be defeated relatively easily how else can you explain that the akatsuki collects 7 of them

Akatsuki were able to collect most of the Bijuu easily because they were sealed within the Jinchuriki. Simply defeat a Jinchuriki and then you wouldn't have to deal with the beast. Arguably, a human opponent is much easier to fight against than an agile, rampant Bijuu.
The only exception was Three-Tails. However, Deidara and Tobi are tough opponents for even a weaker Bijuu to defeat.

 

[FleeOnSight]

Lol neg rep will be given.

 

[taladagah]

just as reaper death seal is a forbidden jutsu. actually. Pain Itachi kisame and sasori never used forbidden techs in battle during their lives. pain and sassori just did ****ed up things to prepare for battle

no being mature has nothing do with what the "law" consider. in the end you can disagree with my opinon i dont care fanboys will fanboy

but pain was well over powered with rinnegan, sassori had access to kage puppets and thousands of puppets from killing which law abiding shinobi wouldnt r couldnt do. i give u kisame. his sword and other jutsu, no matter how unethical was justified give his villiage missions gave him a bad nature and would mabe have the same powers good or bad....

 

[Cromatic]

What Itachi thinks about Minato?

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So why do Itachi fanboys always have the need to bash Minato's character when the manga and Itachi himself respect the guy? I really wonder U_U

He said, Minato was great because of Kushina .. Apart from her sealing techniques, apart from Tobirama's FTG, apart from Jiraiya discovery of Summoning Toads, what were Minato's own jutsu? Rasengan?

 

[takiyacrowz]

lets compare it to itachi's

This is just my views on the 4th hokage you can choose to hate on me if you want.

This is just my views on the itachi you can choose to hate on me if you want

Keep in mind i love the 4th hokage as a ninja. but there are several things he failled to do.

Keep in mind i love itachi as a ninja. but there are several things he failled to do

He failed to protect his Students, his wife, his son, and long term the village

itachi failed to protect his father his mom his girlfriend. and sort term the village.

wait, he killed his father his mom his girlfriend, and failed to protect the village as pain attacked right after the death of itachi, and destroyed the village it is thx to be naruto and kuubi that village survived

I get it it was time of war. but to his knowledge he let two of his students die. a burden until recently Kakashi has shouldered.

i get it he was akatsuki but he failed to protect many jinchuriki's lives

He failed to notice the "masked man" even though minato is a skilled sensory type. this leads to the unsealling of the 9 tails and its attack on the village

he failed to notice the "masked man" even though he was a spy and skilled ninja. this lead to 4th shinobi world war

He was selfish he wanted his son to be have power and to be a legend a burden that ruined most of narutos life.

itachi was selfish he wanted his brother to have power and he preffered him over the village

How Minato Chose to defeat the 9 tails, the reaper death seal. was not the best choice to to use against the 9 tails either.

how itachi planned to kill tobi by implanting ammaterasu in sasuke. it wasn't the best choice after all

We have if akatsuki members can defeat Jinchurikis and bijuus. that tells us the Kyubi could have been beaten through a different means.

defeating Jinchurikis and defeating bijuus is two different things ask pain how he got ass kicked by kuubi.

Minato had the shortest and most unsuccessful reign as hokage

itachi was the worst spy for konoha

I say this based on actual proof

me too

Minatos abilities are only pared by the other kages. but He had failed in his duties as a teacher, a husband, a father, and a leader.

itachi's abilities are on par with madara yet he failed his duty as shinobi as spy as son as kinsmen and as hero

Keep in mind i love minato he's one of my favorite characters but people just overlook his failures

Keep in mind i love itachi he's one of my favorite characters but people just overlook his failures

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

He was both a hokage and a teacher... he was bound to slip up soon or later, that was a lot of responsibility for one man. His wife... I kind of agree. He could have marked her with the seal, flashed back to the vilage, dropped off Naruto and flashed back before Obito could take out the 9 Tails, but hey. Plot.
And he actually gave Naruto one of the strongest weapons over, he totally did protect him. I kind of agree on the village, but everybody contributed to that evenly.

What?

Sensing abilities doesn't grant you the ability to detect someone's identity. Maybe their heritage, but not their complete person.

False, he wanted him to be a hero. Plus, there was nobody else he could seal the fox in.

It still got the job done... what would YOU have done?

You make it sound easy... plus, it's not fair to compare them.
Akatsuki members worked in pairs, not alone. And what they usually do is battle the jinchuuriki, not the actual Bijuu. And then their objective is to knock the Jinchuriki out before going into beast mode, not kill them. Deidara, Kakazu and Hidan were the ONLY member's we've actually seen to successfully capture a Jinchuriki in beast form, and that was only the 2/3 tails, not 9 tails. And Deidara's case was especially cheap because of his advantegous powers over a water type opponent. Pain himself couldn't even handle the 9 Tails. Minato however, did the best he could to at least drive him out of the village. And I ask again...

What would YOU have done?

How do you know this?


Plot, he's still going to gift it to him.


That's because he had the most responsiblity out of all the Kage. Like you said, he had a wife, temporary son, village, team of students, and war to tend to. Nobody else except Hashirama had as much responsiblity to shoulder as him. As I said before, he's only one man. He did the absolute best job he could.

never said that he could detect identity(and actuall as shown by karin yes you can) but he should have sensed his guards got took out and senced his pressence


I wouldnt have resorted to reaper death seal until i know it was the only way RDS is definately not my first plan


Its a manga fact as even the 4th admited to


Plot yes but logically plausible no


Like i said im a fan of the 4th but he succeded in one goal and that was protecting the village short term. not long term

His failures are what makes him cool though imo Shows he his human. The 4th is a dynamic hero in away. my point is fanboys have different opinions but im the only minato fan that looks at him with this perspective. The 4th will proove his worth though in the final fight the father son rasengan is coming

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

lets compare it to itachi's



This is just my views on the itachi you can choose to hate on me if you want



Keep in mind i love itachi as a ninja. but there are several things he failled to do



itachi failed to protect his father his mom his girlfriend. and sort term the village.

wait, he killed his father his mom his girlfriend, and failed to protect the village as pain attacked right after the death of itachi, and destroyed the village it is thx to be naruto and kuubi that village survived



i get it he was akatsuki but he failed to protect many jinchuriki's lives



e failed to notice the "masked man" even though he was a spy and skilled ninja. this lead to 4th shinobi world war



itachi was selfish he wanted his brother to have power and he preffered him over the village



how itachi planned to kill tobi by implanting ammaterasu in sasuke. it wasn't the best choice after all




defeating Jinchurikis and defeating bijuus is two different things ask pain how he got ass kicked by kuubi.



itachi was the worst spy for konoha



me too




itachi's abilities are on par with madara yet he failed his duty as shinobi as spy as son as kinsmen and as hero

Keep in mind i love itachi he's one of my favorite characters but people just overlook his failures

good job on creating a post with just words swithched out


I have also agknowledged itachis failures