My home Country Libya has no Hope anymore unless they fight ISIS together

[Ripple Hole]

Silly fools who constantly say let USA play with the big boys(Russia/China) crack me up, especially when they
believe we're directly responsible for that country's deterioration without sending any of our mercenary there.

 

[BLAZE]

Thank me later if you actually bothered to do some scanning.
It's ok if they don't recognize a westerner's posts out of ignorance. That's their choice.

nah no one cares about a clowns opinion while sitting safely in shitass country and other clown following him blindly.Despite neither of them visiting Libya
Thats some hardcore religious fanatics do and i am not one

Good luck with parroting Ron Paul this Ron Paul that to majority of people who don't even know him

 

[YowYan]

nah no one cares about a clowns opinion while sitting safely in shitass country and other clown following him blindly.Despite neither of them visiting Libya
Thats some hardcore religious fanatics do and i am not one

My country isn't shit though
I know some Libiyans personally who say otherwise. case closed.
I'm not religious. Religion is an insult to the human intellect.
Who am I following blindly? I never said Gaddafi was great. I'm just pointing out the bs you people accepted as truth because NBC news told you so. Reread my post btw I edited the Ron Paul part for you. You're welcome

 

[Izou Xaxa]

Ignorance is bliss.



for what guy?

I read your post earlier and actually there is evidence that Gaddafi killed the people The Media is just giving the information wrong out

Here examples what Gaddafi did
In the past he ordered a public execution because of two people demanding a better system
Gaddafi was the kind of man that killed for money and other stuff and once you would turn against him it is not like normal countreis where you negotitate Gaddafi just orders the execution on the spot

Actually Gaddafi is a Thief who stole the money instead of using it for the good he used for other worth

Also in Libya before the Revolution you cannot demand or ask for any changes when you went against Gaddafis will i remember once a person was protestating against Gaddafi and Gaddafi orders his Troups to kill that man

No one in Libya said Gaddafis name in public because people of him could suspect a sheme and that would mean Death


The Rebels had a reason for their revolution i mean who wants to live in a corrupt country

I was there i speak of experience

Also Gaddafi holded a grudge towards the original capital Misurata and so he changed Triplois into the Capital also he changed the Libya flag

There were a lot of Gaddafi fanatics and surprisingly they were the people that preferred to get money in an illegal way

There was no control in the country so there were a lot of criminals capable of getting away with crimes simply because the police had zero discipline

Libya also had a big amount of poor people

And also at the beginning the revolution even asked Gaddafi for negotiation but he just ordered his soldiers to kill them and after a while they knew they cannot negotiate so they decided to put an end to Gaddafi

Simply said the revolution was predicted by many people no matter how long it would have taken it would have happened one day the way how Gaddafi ruled was no longer acceptable

Also what a coincidence Gaddafi said they are ALl Quaeda because then no one would support the revolution i had cousins in that revolution and hundred percently they are no AL Quaeda that is justa n excuse Gaddafi used to wipe the Rebels out

 

[BLAZE]

My country isn't shit though

I know becoz mindset
You are the guy who blames South Asian for Rape in your country and Europe hurr durr

I know some Libiyans personally who say otherwise. case closed.

Yeah ok with bold becoz that proves i was right neither of you have visited Libya

I'm not religious. Religion is an insult to the human intellect.

Then stop parroting name of some guy believing that everyone would know and believe him becoz thats bold too

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i will read your post about ron but when i have time becoz its night here

 

[YowYan]

I read your post earlier and actually there is evidence that Gaddafi killed the people The Media is just giving the information wrong out

Here examples what Gaddafi did
In the past he ordered a public execution because of two people demanding a better system
Gaddafi was the kind of man that killed for money and other stuff and once you would turn against him it is not like normal countreis where you negotitate Gaddafi just orders the execution on the spot

Actually Gaddafi is a Thief who stole the money instead of using it for the good he used for other worth

Also in Libya before the Revolution you cannot demand or ask for any changes when you went against Gaddafis will i remember once a person was protestating against Gaddafi and Gaddafi orders his Troups to kill that man

No one in Libya said Gaddafis name in public because people of him could suspect a sheme and that would mean Death


The Rebels had a reason for their revolution i mean who wants to live in a corrupt country

I was there i speak of experience

Also Gaddafi holded a grudge towards the original capital Misurata and so he changed Triplois into the Capital also he changed the Libya flag

There were a lot of Gaddafi fanatics and surprisingly they were the people that preferred to get money in an illegal way

There was no control in the country so there were a lot of criminals capable of getting away with crimes simply because the police had zero discipline

Libya also had a big amount of poor people

And also at the beginning the revolution even asked Gaddafi for negotiation but he just ordered his soldiers to kill them and after a while they knew they cannot negotiate so they decided to put an end to Gaddafi

Simply said the revolution was predicted by many people no matter how long it would have taken it would have happened one day the way how Gaddafi ruled was no longer acceptable

Also what a coincidence Gaddafi said they are ALl Quaeda because then no one would support the revolution i had cousins in that revolution and hundred percently they are no AL Quaeda that is justa n excuse Gaddafi used to wipe the Rebels out

All points aside of the last one were already common knowledge about 4 years ago.
What do you expect with a Dictator. I'm providing the side of the story we westerners don't hear of.
Gaddafi was a dictator, yet his regime prevented a power vacuum only to be filled by Al Qaeda. Which happened. Which Ron Paul predicted. The Libiyans I spoke too speak in condemnation of Gaddafi but also point out the living standard in Libiya in terms of the rest of Africa. USA and UN/NATO used this domestic issue in Libiya as a chance to send Al Qaeda militants disguised as the revolutionaries you spoke of. This very same tactic was used in Iraq and Afghanistan and now Syria.
The point here is that look where Libiya was before foreign intervention and look where it is now.

 

[YowYan]

I know becoz mindset
You are the guy who blames South Asian for Rape in your country and Europe hurr durr

Yeah ok with bold becoz that proves i was right neither of you have visited Libya

Then stop parroting name of some guy believing that everyone would know and believe him becoz thats bold too

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i will read your post about ron but when i have time becoz its night here

East-Asians in my country? You mean the UK. Which is a fact.

Actually they lived in Libiya. ._.

I'm parroting what only Gaddafi says? Or independent journalists, NATO officials that speak outside their norm, CIA official, politic outsiders, etc.

 

[Izou Xaxa]

My country isn't shit though
I know some Libiyans personally who say otherwise. case closed.
I'm not religious. Religion is an insult to the human intellect.
Who am I following blindly? I never said Gaddafi was great. I'm just pointing out the bs you people accepted as truth because NBC news told you so. Reread my post btw I edited the Ron Paul part for you. You're welcome

You have no right to say that
Ok wyh is religion an insult to human intellect answer

Well you earlier said the revolution is AL Quaeda which Gaddafi said to make the revolution look bad

And you just wanna make Libyans look like evil people because you said i know some Libyans that say otherwise

 

[Izou Xaxa]

All points aside of the last one were already common knowledge about 4 years ago.
What do you expect with a Dictator. I'm providing the side of the story we westerners don't hear of.
Gaddafi was a dictator, yet his regime prevented a power vacuum only to be filled by Al Qaeda. Which happened. Which Ron Paul predicted. The Libiyans I spoke too speak in condemnation of Gaddafi but also point out the living standard in Libiya in terms of the rest of Africa. USA and UN/NATO used this domestic issue in Libiya as a chance to send Al Qaeda militants disguised as the revolutionaries you spoke of. This very same tactic was used in Iraq and Afghanistan and now Syria.
The point here is that look where Libiya was before foreign intervention and look where it is now.

No the revolutionaires were motivated to fight Gaddafi after a man in Tunesia burned himslef down and gave a speech that caused a revolution

AL QUaeda was surpressed by Gaddafi and when the revolution started Al Quaeda also were in Libya because Gaddafis control over them was gone

The Revolution was not Al Quaedas sheme maybe they benefited from it but it was not theri tactic the Revolution was started because of the motivation for a change

Gaddafi also pointed out that once he is gone AL Quaeda will come so in fact AL Quaeda did not plan this

As i said Gaddafi searched for a reason and calle dthe revolution Al QUeada and not his people but who were his people the revolution

Gaddafi used that excuse to his favor

Anyway my point AL QUeada did not plan the revolution

 

[YowYan]

You have no right to say that
Ok wyh is religion an insult to human intellect answer

Well you earlier said the revolution is AL Quaeda which Gaddafi said to make the revolution look bad

And you just wanna make Libyans look like evil people because you said i know some Libyans that say otherwise

I do have a right to say that. It's called freedom of speech. I have yet to be corrected when it comes to religious arguments.

However, I have been corrected when it comes to the Libiyan revolutionaries. I was too focused on the Al Qaeida mercenaries that entered Libiya and helped topple the regime only to create a power vacuum to be filled by ISIS. So much that I ignored the fact it was still a dictatorship and the people will have dissent towards a dictatorship.

So that gives NATO the right to get rid of Gaddafi? Then why is the Israelian government still standing? It's interesting to note how the US or UK never move on Israel when they slaughter 1000's upon 1000's of innocent civilians, year after year, decade after decade. Israel never gets invaded or even sanctions. Same with Ukraine, the US etc seems to have given the Ukraine govt the green light to slaughter civilians and bomb cities. Hypocrisy? I think so

 

[CrimsonReaper]

My country isn't shit though
I know some Libiyans personally who say otherwise. case closed.
I'm not religious. Religion is an insult to the human intellect.
Who am I following blindly? I never said Gaddafi was great. I'm just pointing out the bs you people accepted as truth because NBC news told you so. Reread my post btw I edited the Ron Paul part for you. You're welcome

Nbc here we go again.

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[BLAZE]

East-Asians in my country? You mean the UK. Which is a fact.

yeah okay i lol'd

 

[Izou Xaxa]

I do have a right to say that. It's called freedom of speech. I have yet to be corrected when it comes to religious arguments.

However, I have been corrected when it comes to the Libiyan revolutionaries. I was too focused on the Al Qaeida mercenaries that entered Libiya and helped topple the regime only to create a power vacuum to be filled by ISIS. So much that I ignored the fact it was still a dictatorship and the people will have dissent towards a dictatorship.

So that gives NATO the right to get rid of Gaddafi? Then why is the Israelian government still standing? It's interesting to note how the US or UK never move on Israel when they slaughter 1000's upon 1000's of innocent civilians, year after year, decade after decade. Israel never gets invaded or even sanctions. Same with Ukraine, the US etc seems to have given the Ukraine govt the green light to slaughter civilians and bomb cities. Hypocrisy? I think so

Israel is another story

Gaddafi was a target because of warcrimes

Well in the end the rebels killed Gaddafi

Yeah Hypocrisy that goes to the European and American people who never act and then freak out with france

To be honest you sound like you wanna blame Libya actually i admit Syria is in far greater and dangerous situation but Libya is also in an extreme bad situtaion so that does not make it Hypocrisy

USA actually allied themselves with Israel against Palestina well

The Israel war was also a bit Israels own fault for creating their own nation in Plaestinas area well but as i said that is another story

 

[CrimsonReaper]

I do have a right to say that. It's called freedom of speech. I have yet to be corrected when it comes to religious arguments.

However, I have been corrected when it comes to the Libiyan revolutionaries. I was too focused on the Al Qaeida mercenaries that entered Libiya and helped topple the regime only to create a power vacuum to be filled by ISIS. So much that I ignored the fact it was still a dictatorship and the people will have dissent towards a dictatorship.

So that gives NATO the right to get rid of Gaddafi? Then why is the Israelian government still standing? It's interesting to note how the US or UK never move on Israel when they slaughter 1000's upon 1000's of innocent civilians, year after year, decade after decade. Israel never gets invaded or even sanctions. Same with Ukraine, the US etc seems to have given the Ukraine govt the green light to slaughter civilians and bomb cities. Hypocrisy? I think so

finally you've come to your senses. Jesus.

 

[YowYan]

No the revolutionaires were motivated to fight Gaddafi after a man in Tunesia burned himslef down and gave a speech that caused a revolution

AL QUaeda was surpressed by Gaddafi and when the revolution started Al Quaeda also were in Libya because Gaddafis control over them was gone

The Revolution was not Al Quaedas sheme maybe they benefited from it but it was not theri tactic the Revolution was started because of the motivation for a change

Gaddafi also pointed out that once he is gone AL Quaeda will come so in fact AL Quaeda did not plan this

As i said Gaddafi searched for a reason and calle dthe revolution Al QUeada and not his people but who were his people the revolution

Gaddafi used that excuse to his favor

Anyway my point AL QUeada did not plan the revolution

Al Qaeida are mercenaries, they don't plan revolutions nowadays. They originated from motivations to do so but they're just mercenaries nowadays.

Gaddafi said that after he was gone Al Qaeida would fill the power vacuum, yes. Are you saying he perpetrated that? Which is not true. The rebels often wore NATO weaponry and money and thus were provided with the means to topple the regime by westerners. The toppling of the Libiyan regime together with Iran were also already openly spoken about by western officials years beforehand.

Anti-Gaddafi rebels broke free other revolutionaries from Prison together with Al Qaeda suspects which is a gray zone if you compare it with your statement of Gaddafi using this in his favour. It collides right there so I'll just revert my statement on this part and apologize. I'll have to dive a bit deeper to confidently claim that part of the story.

 

[Multiply]

Damn ya'll still at this. I'm back now for a little bit so who wants this ether?

 

[Tobi98]

Dimwit. That guy only made clear what was already clear to the world. Gaddafi was a dictator. And I wonder about his age and how long he stayed there. And an example for the kid from libiya stating his view: Many people from usa are blindly supporting their government. So a redneck american is qualified to tell you the facts?

And you pointed out that Gaddafi was responsible for thousands of deaths (lies) but why doesn't us and nato respond to the thousands of palestinian lives wasted? Or Boko haram kidnapping school girls? Or any other human rights violations that does not fit in their interests. Because Israel is an ally and Libiya had good relations with Russia.

- Before the invasion Libiya enjoyed the highest standard of living in Africa (ahead of Russia, Brazil and Saudi Arabia)
- Homes were considered a human right (in usa, they tried to make feeding homeless people illegal)
- Newly married couples received a large sum to buy their own home
- Electricity was free to all people
- Gaddafi vowed to house every Libiyian before his parents. Which he did.
- Before Gaddafi less than 1/5 of Libiyans were literate
- After Gaddafi literacy rate was 83%
- Healthcare was free and supposedly high quality but I couldn't verify that
- A water spring was found deep in the ground and Gaddafi made sure it was brought up to the surface for the people
- Gaddafi tried to unite all african countries with a gold currency that would topple the petro dollar (reason to get rid of him)
- All loans were interest free by law

Not usually agree with you, but this

P.S: US going against Gaddafi while supporting Saudi Arabia is ****ing hypocrite

 

[YowYan]

Nbc here we go again.

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yeah okay i lol'd

That's not an argument, buddy. Stay ignorant.

finally you've come to your senses. Jesus.

I don't have a problem with confessing mistake(s) I make. Never have. There's just one gray zone on the matter I failed to memorize so I apologized until I find out the details. You on the other hand had no clue to begin with and just rode along xiua's posts, nodding.

 

[BLAZE]

That's not an argument, buddy. Stay ignorant.

Yeah like a person from West Europe=Butcher as they did commited multiple massacre during colonial Rule.No arguments there :lol

even i lol'd while typing this :lol but yeah as i said the midnset is the problem

 

[CrimsonReaper]

That's not an argument, buddy. Stay ignorant.



I don't have a problem with confessing mistake(s) I make. Never have. There's just one gray zone on the matter I failed to memorize so I apologized until I find out the details. You on the other hand had no clue to begin with and just rode along xiua's posts, nodding.

wait what?? are you trying to create an another argument? all i disagreed with you about is the revolutionaries being jihadists part..