MS = Kage level

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Anyone who unlocks MS is immediately Kage level. Sasuke defeated a Kage.

EMS = High Kage or Above Kage

Rinnegan = God
 

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What would Sage chakra equal then? Above God?
 

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What would Sage chakra equal then? Above God?

Sage Mode = Kage level or S-rank

Naruto defeated Six Paths of Pain who were S-rank
 

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What would Sage chakra equal then? Above God?

There is no one in NV who is god tier. God tier=omnipotent.

I would put rinnegan at titanic level and sage chakra at about low demi god level.
 

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There is no one in NV who is god tier. God tier=omnipotent.

I would put rinnegan at titanic level and sage chakra at about low demi god level.

I think Everest level is better
 

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There is no one in NV who is god tier. God tier=omnipotent.

I would put rinnegan at titanic level and sage chakra at about low demi god level.
What about Hagoromo? Isn't he Omnipotent? He was able to defeat the Juubi and seal Kaguya and he gave Naruto and Sasuke god like powers?
 

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What about Hagoromo? Isn't he Omnipotent? He was able to defeat the Juubi and seal Kaguya and he gave Naruto and Sasuke god like powers?

nah he's dead
 

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The mangekyuo is jounin, or sannin level at best.
Tobirama (kage) shitted on the MS user izuna.

Minato (kage) also beat MS obito during kyuubi attack

Hashirama (kage) shitted on even the EMS (madara).

Ill tell you which techs kage level, the hiraishin (flying thunder god). Anyone who can use that on their own is a high kage level.
 

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What about Hagoromo? Isn't he Omnipotent? He was able to defeat the Juubi and seal Kaguya and he gave Naruto and Sasuke god like powers?




A character must meet a very ridiculous amount of conditions to meet omnipotence.


Omniarch - Rule all things.
Omnicompetence - Handle all situations or matters.
Hypercompetence - Be absolutely skilled in every possible field.
Omnifarious - Take on any and all existing forms, shapes, varieties, or kinds.
Omnificence - Create anything and everything from nothing.
Almighty Object - Create artifacts of nigh limitless power.
Omnireplication - Duplicate anything.
Omnilingualism - Decipher and speak any language.
Omnilock - Exist outside of everything.
Freedom - Be absolutely free of any boundaries even from destiny.
Omnipresence - Be everywhere in existence at once.
Omniscience - Know everything and anything.
Enlightenment - Possess full comprehension of the universe/multiverse.

More details
Complete Arsenal - Have every power.
Ability Resilience - User's powers are immune to all alterations.
Absolute Condition - Have the ultimate levels of strength, speed, intellect, etc.
Absolute Existence - Total control over their own existence.
Absolute Force Manipulation - Control, create, shape and destroy all forces.
Absolute Probability Manipulation - Control all possibilities
Absolute Restoration - Restore everything back to their natural state.
Absolute Will -The power to control and manipulate anything.
Almighty Law - Create and control the law that is unbreakable and is the Alpha law.
Almighty Replication - Replicate all powers.
Alpha Reality - Rewrite the laws of reality without limit.
Amortality - The user is beyond life and death.
Absolute Immortality - Total, absolute immortality.
Boundary Manipulation - Complete control of all boundaries.
Causality Manipulation - Compete control of the cause/effect relation.
Conceptualization - Create/manipulate/erase all Concepts.
Cycle Manipulation - manipulate the cycles of existence (creation, existence, destruction).
Destruction - Destroy anything and everything.
Apocalyptic Force Manipulation - control the final force.
Existence Manipulation - Manipulate the entirety of existence itself.
Primordial Force Manipulation - Manipulate the prime force.
Existential Plane Manipulation - Manipulate all planes of existence.
Grand Design Construction - creating, sorting, preserving the universe.
Indomitable Will - Being totally unstoppable.
Logic Manipulation- Control and defy logic without limit
Maximum Quintessenal Control - Control infinite amounts of spiritual force.
Nonexistence - Completely erase any kind of existence.
Omnicide - Kill all life at once.
Omni-Magic - Manipulate all forms of magic.
Omni-Negation - Negate and nullify everything.
Omnifabricating - Invent anything with varying capabilities.
Omniverse Manipulation - Control all universes.
Origin Manipulation - Manipulate the origin of all that is.
Paradox Manipulation - Override the laws of reality, logic and common sense.
Perspective Manipulation - Manipulate the Perspective.
Preservation - Preserve Everything
Physical Godhood - Break and bend all scientific laws and concepts
Separation - Separate/Divide Everything.
Singularity - By essence is truly Unique.
Supernatural Manipulation - Control everything supernatural.
Superpower Manipulation - Create, control and delete powers on an infinite level.
Power Augmentation - Can increase and amplify special abilities to infinite power-levels.
Power Immunity - Be immune to any and all external powers and effects.
Power Link - manipulate the power link.
Meta Ability Creation - Can create whatever power one wants with no limits.
Totality Manipulation - Rule/Control/Preserve/Create/Destroy all Totality.
Ultimate Invincibility - Be absolutely invincible.
Universal Irreversibility - Actions cannot be stopped or reversed.
Unimind - Be one with all minds.
Unity - Be one with all and be everything.

That's what god tier is. Even goku who can destroy planets easily isn't anywhere near this level.
 

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Anyone who unlocks MS is immediately Kage level. Sasuke defeated a Kage.

EMS = High Kage or Above Kage

Rinnegan = God

Yeah right and if that particular kage level shinobi doesn't have any loving brother like itachi to leave his eyes behind that kage turns into a blind beggar very soon!
 
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A character must meet a very ridiculous amount of conditions to meet omnipotence.


Omniarch - Rule all things.
Omnicompetence - Handle all situations or matters.
Hypercompetence - Be absolutely skilled in every possible field.
Omnifarious - Take on any and all existing forms, shapes, varieties, or kinds.
Omnificence - Create anything and everything from nothing.
Almighty Object - Create artifacts of nigh limitless power.
Omnireplication - Duplicate anything.
Omnilingualism - Decipher and speak any language.
Omnilock - Exist outside of everything.
Freedom - Be absolutely free of any boundaries even from destiny.
Omnipresence - Be everywhere in existence at once.
Omniscience - Know everything and anything.
Enlightenment - Possess full comprehension of the universe/multiverse.

More details
Complete Arsenal - Have every power.
Ability Resilience - User's powers are immune to all alterations.
Absolute Condition - Have the ultimate levels of strength, speed, intellect, etc.
Absolute Existence - Total control over their own existence.
Absolute Force Manipulation - Control, create, shape and destroy all forces.
Absolute Probability Manipulation - Control all possibilities
Absolute Restoration - Restore everything back to their natural state.
Absolute Will -The power to control and manipulate anything.
Almighty Law - Create and control the law that is unbreakable and is the Alpha law.
Almighty Replication - Replicate all powers.
Alpha Reality - Rewrite the laws of reality without limit.
Amortality - The user is beyond life and death.
Absolute Immortality - Total, absolute immortality.
Boundary Manipulation - Complete control of all boundaries.
Causality Manipulation - Compete control of the cause/effect relation.
Conceptualization - Create/manipulate/erase all Concepts.
Cycle Manipulation - manipulate the cycles of existence (creation, existence, destruction).
Destruction - Destroy anything and everything.
Apocalyptic Force Manipulation - control the final force.
Existence Manipulation - Manipulate the entirety of existence itself.
Primordial Force Manipulation - Manipulate the prime force.
Existential Plane Manipulation - Manipulate all planes of existence.
Grand Design Construction - creating, sorting, preserving the universe.
Indomitable Will - Being totally unstoppable.
Logic Manipulation- Control and defy logic without limit
Maximum Quintessenal Control - Control infinite amounts of spiritual force.
Nonexistence - Completely erase any kind of existence.
Omnicide - Kill all life at once.
Omni-Magic - Manipulate all forms of magic.
Omni-Negation - Negate and nullify everything.
Omnifabricating - Invent anything with varying capabilities.
Omniverse Manipulation - Control all universes.
Origin Manipulation - Manipulate the origin of all that is.
Paradox Manipulation - Override the laws of reality, logic and common sense.
Perspective Manipulation - Manipulate the Perspective.
Preservation - Preserve Everything
Physical Godhood - Break and bend all scientific laws and concepts
Separation - Separate/Divide Everything.
Singularity - By essence is truly Unique.
Supernatural Manipulation - Control everything supernatural.
Superpower Manipulation - Create, control and delete powers on an infinite level.
Power Augmentation - Can increase and amplify special abilities to infinite power-levels.
Power Immunity - Be immune to any and all external powers and effects.
Power Link - manipulate the power link.
Meta Ability Creation - Can create whatever power one wants with no limits.
Totality Manipulation - Rule/Control/Preserve/Create/Destroy all Totality.
Ultimate Invincibility - Be absolutely invincible.
Universal Irreversibility - Actions cannot be stopped or reversed.
Unimind - Be one with all minds.
Unity - Be one with all and be everything.

That's what god tier is. Even goku who can destroy planets easily isn't anywhere near this level.

great list, Sasuke has these
 

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MS gives an Uchiha haxxed/broken abilities that amp their present skills.

Take MS away from Sasuke and ask yourself how long would 3T Sasuke last against the 5 Kage (Ay, Danzo, Gaara+Temari+Kankuro, Mei). He would've been crushed without Susanno and Amatarasu spamming.

Take the MS away from Itachi and ask yourself where does Itachi stack up against Sasuke during their fight, or against Part 2 Kakashi or Nagato.

Take MS away from Obito and he would've died, many times over.
 

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A character must meet a very ridiculous amount of conditions to meet omnipotence.


Omniarch - Rule all things.
Omnicompetence - Handle all situations or matters.
Hypercompetence - Be absolutely skilled in every possible field.
Omnifarious - Take on any and all existing forms, shapes, varieties, or kinds.
Omnificence - Create anything and everything from nothing.
Almighty Object - Create artifacts of nigh limitless power.
Omnireplication - Duplicate anything.
Omnilingualism - Decipher and speak any language.
Omnilock - Exist outside of everything.
Freedom - Be absolutely free of any boundaries even from destiny.
Omnipresence - Be everywhere in existence at once.
Omniscience - Know everything and anything.
Enlightenment - Possess full comprehension of the universe/multiverse.

More details
Complete Arsenal - Have every power.
Ability Resilience - User's powers are immune to all alterations.
Absolute Condition - Have the ultimate levels of strength, speed, intellect, etc.
Absolute Existence - Total control over their own existence.
Absolute Force Manipulation - Control, create, shape and destroy all forces.
Absolute Probability Manipulation - Control all possibilities
Absolute Restoration - Restore everything back to their natural state.
Absolute Will -The power to control and manipulate anything.
Almighty Law - Create and control the law that is unbreakable and is the Alpha law.
Almighty Replication - Replicate all powers.
Alpha Reality - Rewrite the laws of reality without limit.
Amortality - The user is beyond life and death.
Absolute Immortality - Total, absolute immortality.
Boundary Manipulation - Complete control of all boundaries.
Causality Manipulation - Compete control of the cause/effect relation.
Conceptualization - Create/manipulate/erase all Concepts.
Cycle Manipulation - manipulate the cycles of existence (creation, existence, destruction).
Destruction - Destroy anything and everything.
Apocalyptic Force Manipulation - control the final force.
Existence Manipulation - Manipulate the entirety of existence itself.
Primordial Force Manipulation - Manipulate the prime force.
Existential Plane Manipulation - Manipulate all planes of existence.
Grand Design Construction - creating, sorting, preserving the universe.
Indomitable Will - Being totally unstoppable.
Logic Manipulation- Control and defy logic without limit
Maximum Quintessenal Control - Control infinite amounts of spiritual force.
Nonexistence - Completely erase any kind of existence.
Omnicide - Kill all life at once.
Omni-Magic - Manipulate all forms of magic.
Omni-Negation - Negate and nullify everything.
Omnifabricating - Invent anything with varying capabilities.
Omniverse Manipulation - Control all universes.
Origin Manipulation - Manipulate the origin of all that is.
Paradox Manipulation - Override the laws of reality, logic and common sense.
Perspective Manipulation - Manipulate the Perspective.
Preservation - Preserve Everything
Physical Godhood - Break and bend all scientific laws and concepts
Separation - Separate/Divide Everything.
Singularity - By essence is truly Unique.
Supernatural Manipulation - Control everything supernatural.
Superpower Manipulation - Create, control and delete powers on an infinite level.
Power Augmentation - Can increase and amplify special abilities to infinite power-levels.
Power Immunity - Be immune to any and all external powers and effects.
Power Link - manipulate the power link.
Meta Ability Creation - Can create whatever power one wants with no limits.
Totality Manipulation - Rule/Control/Preserve/Create/Destroy all Totality.
Ultimate Invincibility - Be absolutely invincible.
Universal Irreversibility - Actions cannot be stopped or reversed.
Unimind - Be one with all minds.
Unity - Be one with all and be everything.

That's what god tier is. Even goku who can destroy planets easily isn't anywhere near this level.
By the NV standards, Naruto and Sasuke are demi-god level.

Kaguya is the only one in the NV who is God level.
 

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MS probably does grant S rank jutsus but you misunderstand. In Sasuke's case, all EMS did was enable Sasuke to use his eyes with no risk of going blind. It allowed him to master his powers. It doesn't mean he gets to high kage level or whatever. Madara, I can't say about, since we don't know what his EMS did for him exactly.
 

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The mangekyuo is jounin, or sannin level at best.
Tobirama (kage) shitted on the MS user izuna.

Minato (kage) also beat MS obito during kyuubi attack

Hashirama (kage) shitted on even the EMS (madara).

Ill tell you which techs kage level, the hiraishin (flying thunder god). Anyone who can use that on their own is a high kage level.

Hashirama isn't just a kage. He can probably take on every kage from every village for 4 generations(16 of them at once) on his own.

EMS Madara low diffs gokages on his own.
 

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Kage level is overrated anyway. Most kage are shit these days.
 
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