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Yeah she is underrated...
Being a kage is more then having an ultimate arsenal and being a ninja is more than having haxxed techs.
 

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You should also know how she got the fear of blood in the first place, tisk tisk, you need to brush up. All this time during that part of the fight she had her fear of blood, i'm sure kabuto wouldn't have messed with her after she got over her fear of blood and went at oro. If oro didn't have such techniques to practically make him immortal he would have been dead, we can only give him the fact he had no arms. He still gave both Jiraya and Tsunade a tough fight all the same so don't use that as an excuse to belittle her. I know jiraya was intoxicated also but that equals her fear of blood at the beginning of the fight to me they are both handicaps.

Regardless of her fear of blood, if she was indeed as skilled as the OT says, then she wouldn't have been stabbed with a mere shuriken in the first place by a lesser character at the time

If it was any other kage fighting Kabuto in her place, they would have wiped the floor with him regardless of their condition or even if they had a blood phobia
 

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Jiraiya got on Tsunade's level with Sage Mode....... come on now bro.

Tsunade has better chakra control, she can amplify her speed if she wants. She can mess up his connection to the sharingan with the nerve system. She can destroy the battlefield and use objects like walls to attack him.



Mate your talking about Minato's fight against Kyuubi.. that is a normal shinobi's job....that is not what determines a "Great Hokage". Tsunade had a full plan ready to fend off against pain. But Danzo spoiled it when he killed the Toad.

Naruto getting training was part of Tsunade's plan. She started to save people instead of fighting them. If Minato and Hiruzen were there they wouldn't have been able to do shit about the Shinra tensei either, in fact they wouldn't have even saved that many lives.

I'm not saying Minato was a BAD HOKAGE.. I'm saying he did the Least.... when people put Minato over Tsunade it makes no sense.

I don't consider you a troll but I hope you're joking about this post.
In no way shape or form did Minato do the least, in fact, it wasn't for Minato not only would there be no Kohona, but a whole list of chain negatives would go on (Pain, Kakuzu, no one to stand up too Obito).
I hope you are joking :|

Regardless of her fear of blood, if she was indeed as skilled as the OT says, then she wouldn't have been stabbed with a mere shuriken in the first place by a lesser character at the time

If it was any other kage fighting Kabuto in her place, they would have wiped the floor with him regardless of their condition or even if they had a blood phobia
I don't think he's referring to her combative feats, more so her feats that reflect her position as Hokage. And that whole statement about Hokages > Itachi is obviously a troll post. Skill level doesn't reflect how one receives damage, though it can play a factor. Last I checked Kabuto didn't own Tsunade, yet played dirty tactics and when she got over her fear what happened?
 
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Hahahahahah

Tsunade > Minato? Lol
Tsunade > Itachi? Lol
Tsunade is the greastest Sanin? Lol x2
 

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I don't consider you a troll but I hope you're joking about this post.
In no way shape or form did Minato do the least, in fact, it wasn't for Minato not only would there be no Kohona, but a whole list of chain negatives would go on (Pain, Kakuzu, no one to stand up too Obito).
I hope you are joking :|


I don't think he's referring to her combative feats, more so her feats that reflect her position as Hokage. And that whole statement about Hokages > Itachi is obviously a troll post. Skill level doesn't reflect how one receives damage, though it can play a factor. Last I checked Kabuto didn't own Tsunade, yet played dirty tactics and when she got over her fear what happened?

even by comparing their feats, he exaggerated....she didn't rebuild konoha twice, yamato did single-handedly the first time

If I'm not mistaken, Konoha was already rebuilt after Oro's attack when she first became hokage

3rd hokage rebuilt konoha after the kyuubi attack anyways

she didn't save everybody, Nagato sacrificed his life for rinne tensei

Forming a team to hunt down Orochimaru that didn't even succeed

Minato defeated a kyuubi, Obito, and saved the village and naruto by sacrificing himself(much more impressive that anything tsunade did)

I'm sure every kage raised morale
 
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Your opinions on Itachi's characters don't mean squat when judging power.
Ok then your opinion on Tsunade don't matter when she is overpowering Itachi. Anything else?
A medical ninja who has a fear of blood? That is a fail within a fail

I like how you forgot that if it wasn't for Naruto stepping in, she would have been defeated throughout the rest of the battle and wouldn't have been able to knock out anyone ;]

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I also like how you forgot to mention that when she was stabbed, they weren't aiming to kill either, but to wound...so she had no choice but to fight afterwards(not even an idiot would just stand idly by letting someone stab them)

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pawned by Kabuto

Atleast have the knowledge of why she had the fear of blood. And also, I love how you treat not fighting over 20 years lightly.. And you just expect her to be still fresh .

Second Kabuto had to use soldier pills to even have a chance at her, and even with those she F'd him up.


And i love how you can't interpret that the original target of Orochimaru to kill was the Kyuubi , and Tsunade got in the way , and he said " Tsunade.. I wasn't trying to kill you".

Try to use the manga in full context , instead of picking out pages to prove your point. Thank you.
 

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Hokages in order (based on feats):

1.Hashirama
2.Minato
3.Tsunade
4.Hiruzen
5.Tobirama

This is why Tobirama is the most underrated.

#Tobiramapride
 

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Ok then your opinion on Tsunade don't matter when she is overpowering Itachi. Anything else?


Atleast have the knowledge of why she had the fear of blood. And also, I love how you treat not fighting over 20 years lightly.. And you just expect her to be still fresh .

Second Kabuto had to use soldier pills to even have a chance at her, and even with those she F'd him up.


And i love how you can't interpret that the original target of Orochimaru to kill was the Kyuubi , and Tsunade got in the way , and he said " Tsunade.. I wasn't trying to kill you".

Try to use the manga in full context , instead of picking out pages to prove your point. Thank you.

You sound kind of stupid. When judging a character's abilities you look at their strength not their character.

When you tell me how Tsunade gets past Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi and Susanoo then I'll take your foolish opinion seriously.
 

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You sound kind of stupid. When judging a character's abilities you look at their strength not their character.

When you tell me how Tsunade gets past Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi and Susanoo then I'll take your foolish opinion seriously.
Tsukuyomi can be avoided, Susano'o can be destroyed, Amaterasu can be dodged and made useless.

Why call my opinion foolish when you think a medical ninja who is a master taijutsu is weak compared to top tier character.

Tell me how Itachi keeps his feets on the ground. Hell she can even outlast Itachi. She is superior to Itachi. experience and her pure prowess on what she can do. Hell she can put you to sleep by attacking you at 1 point..
 

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Ok then your opinion on Tsunade don't matter when she is overpowering Itachi. Anything else?


Atleast have the knowledge of why she had the fear of blood. And also, I love how you treat not fighting over 20 years lightly.. And you just expect her to be still fresh .

Second Kabuto had to use soldier pills to even have a chance at her, and even with those she F'd him up.


And i love how you can't interpret that the original target of Orochimaru to kill was the Kyuubi , and Tsunade got in the way , and he said " Tsunade.. I wasn't trying to kill you".

Try to use the manga in full context , instead of picking out pages to prove your point. Thank you.

me not using manga to full context? Like how you got most of your facts wrong about tsunade?

She didn't rebuild konoha either time.....Yamato rebuilt it after the Pain invasion while she was in a coma, and the first time after Oro's attack, konoha was already rebuilt before she became hokage

I'm not even gonna bother correcting the rest
 
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Tsukuyomi can be avoided, Susano'o can be destroyed, Amaterasu can be dodged and made useless.

Why call my opinion foolish when you think a medical ninja who is a master taijutsu is weak compared to top tier character.

Tell me how Itachi keeps his feets on the ground. Hell she can even outlast Itachi. She is superior to Itachi. experience and her pure prowess on what she can do. Hell she can put you to sleep by attacking you at 1 point..

-Tsukuyomi is a toss up.

-A needed V2 level speed to dodge it. When you can provide proof of her being able to move that fast then you can say she can dodge it. The fact that you said she can dodge it shows that you don't read the manga as clearly as you should be.

-She only managed to crack a V1 Susanoo, she isn't breaking a V3 Susanoo with Yata Mirror.

Your opinion is foolish because it isn't backed up with any facts. This poor response shows it.
 

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Still seems like my statement hasn't been refuted


-Tsukuyomi is a toss up.

-A needed V2 level speed to dodge it. When you can provide proof of her being able to move that fast then you can say she can dodge it. The fact that you said she can dodge it shows that you don't read the manga as clearly as you should be.

-She only managed to crack a V1 Susanoo, she isn't breaking a V3 Susanoo with Yata Mirror.

Your opinion is foolish because it isn't backed up with any facts. This poor response shows it.

Didn't Sasuke dodge it?
 

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Still seems like my statement hasn't been refuted




Didn't Sasuke dodge it?

Itachi wasn't trying to hit Sasuke directly as he didn't want to kill him. That is the only reason he dodged it and he still got hit.
 

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Itachi wasn't trying to hit Sasuke directly as he didn't want to kill him. That is the only reason he dodged it and he still got hit.

Meaning the it is dodge able, and not instant like people claim to be (in the instance that it doesn't travel) not unless Kishi contradicted himself
 

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Meaning the it is dodge able, and not instant like people claim to be (in the instance that it doesn't travel) not unless Kishi contradicted himself

No. If he had aimed at Sasuke then it would have hit him. Obviously its easier to dodge when it isn't even aimed at you. We've already seen that it required A to power up to V2 to dodge it.
 

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No. If he had aimed at Sasuke then it would have hit him. Obviously its easier to dodge when it isn't even aimed at you. We've already seen that it required A to power up to V2 to dodge it.

No to what? We've seen Ama travel in the anime and manga, and it's avoidable as proven by the Raikage (and Bee depending on how literal you use dodge in this case)
 

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No to what? We've seen Ama travel in the anime and manga, and it's avoidable as proven by the Raikage (and Bee depending on how literal you use dodge in this case)

My bad, the no wasn't supposed to be in there...yeah, you're right. Amaterasu is avoidable.
 

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In terms of accomplishments I might agree with you, but in terms of power? Hashirama shits bubbles that are tougher than Tsunade.

BTW I think mei is the most underrated
 
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