MISCONCEPTION: Minato can't dodge Amaterasu

[-Vegeta-]

It shouldn't be a misconception. It should be common sense he can dodge it.

 

[siyo]

It would be foolish to claim that Minato can't dodge it.

 

[ReapTermin]

They call us idiots when they are the ones speculating about Minato's reflexes. If Minato can't dodge it... then I guess Naruto vs. Sasuke will be over once Sasuke uses his Amaterasu, right? Raikage V2 has the best reflexes on the whole series, right? The I guess there's no point in finishing Naruto... since Sasuke's Amaterasu is just going to rape Naruto.

 

[Oronagato]

great thread

+rep

 

[Lt Iceman]

With knowledge before hand he most likely can,given his reflexes are on par with the raikage who dodged it

Without,there's no chance in hell,just as any other shinobi who is unaware would get ignited on the spot

 

[narutownsyouall]

just about anybody who is a jonin can dodge Amatarasu.

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this should explain. if anybody wants to argue it im here all day.

 

[YourMom]

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roooooooooooooofl

 

[YourMom]

Lol in one point of the explanation he says Sasuke was able to dodge it because he was running, but he's claiming minato can't when minatos base speed is more than likely faster than sasukes let alone his reflexes. If Amaterasu hits where the eyes focus it should have hit Sasuke there's no wAy in hell Sasuke moves faster than itachis eyes.

 

[YourMom]

Didn't read it right lol. Never mind

 

[YourMom]

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Idk if this will work, but I felt left out.

 

[SupErAkaTsuKI]

It shouldn't be a misconception. It should be common sense he can dodge it.

Couldn't agree more! But of course, there are certain people will deny this matter.

 

[BloodSeed]

They call us idiots when they are the ones speculating about Minato's reflexes. If Minato can't dodge it... then I guess Naruto vs. Sasuke will be over once Sasuke uses his Amaterasu, right? Raikage V2 has the best reflexes on the whole series, right? The I guess there's no point in finishing Naruto... since Sasuke's Amaterasu is just going to rape Naruto.

yeah and ITACHI and his amaterasu alone > hashirama or madara or hiruzen or 3rd raikage, jiraiya, tobi, izuna :rofl:

 

[ajpn920]

Its pretty clear that ppl are so hell bent on proving that Minato can't dodge it so that to use it in versus threads. They will say itachi>insert any character here. Cause they will say that if the fastest ninja can't avoid it how will that character avoid it....

And god the logic they use is just WTF????

that's what i'm thinking..if they are successful in this one then in any versus threads no one can beat itachi because they can't avoid amaterasu..

yeah ive also tried itachi that he can one shot hashirama or madara since A is the only one that can evade amaterasu :rofl:

It shouldn't be a misconception. It should be common sense he can dodge it.

there are some who thinks he can't when it's so obvious that he can

It would be foolish to claim that Minato can't dodge it.

true

They call us idiots when they are the ones speculating about Minato's reflexes. If Minato can't dodge it... then I guess Naruto vs. Sasuke will be over once Sasuke uses his Amaterasu, right? Raikage V2 has the best reflexes on the whole series, right? The I guess there's no point in finishing Naruto... since Sasuke's Amaterasu is just going to rape Naruto.

couldn't agree more..

great thread

+rep

thanks

With knowledge before hand he most likely can,given his reflexes are on par with the raikage who dodged it

Without,there's no chance in hell,just as any other shinobi who is unaware would get ignited on the spot

true. anybody unaware of the attack will get hit..

yeah and ITACHI and his amaterasu alone > hashirama or madara or hiruzen or 3rd raikage, jiraiya, tobi, izuna :rofl:

if Minato can't dodge it then they can't..that's what they want in any versus threads..:rofl:

edit: Itachi fans are giving me negative (-) reps...just wow!

 

[BloodSeed]

that's what i'm thinking..if they are successful in this one then in any versus threads no one can beat itachi because they can't avoid amaterasu..






there are some who thinks he can't when it's so obvious that he can



true



couldn't agree more..



thanks



true. anybody unaware of the attack will get hit..



if Minato can't dodge it then they can't..that's what they want in any versus threads..:rofl:

edit: Itachi fans are giving me negative (-) reps...just wow!

at first it was tsukuyumi that can 1 shot and now the amaterasu can hit anyone except A, :rofl: ive wonder why itachi didnt use it on tobi. ill give you + rep w8

ops it said i need to spread

 

[ajpn920]

at first it was tsukuyumi that can 1 shot and now the amaterasu can hit anyone except A, :rofl: ive wonder why itachi didnt use it on tobi. ill give you + rep w8

ops it said i need to spread

No worries bro..

 

[ajpn920]

The thread was closed. This is my reply to you Ispeak

Ajpn... you are only proving me right!
I said there are many factors in dodging. In Raikage's situation, it was his speed, reflex, reaction time, Amaterasu's speed, Amaterasu's size and the distance between them.
In Minato + Raikage's situation, there was speed, reaction time, distance, the length of the Raikage's arm etc.
If the distance between them is closer than the distance which they need to escape, then they need to travel faster than faster than that object aswell. I have already explained using this, why Amaterasu was faster than the Raikage... did you read my post?

Now you are proving me right!! All you said, I gave it as an example.

In Raikage's situation, it was his speed, reflex, reaction time, Amaterasu's speed, Amaterasu's size and the distance between them.

First off, at the bolded part, now you said that speed was involve because you knew that he was moving. If you can see your previous posts before I came in, you neglected speed and you say that it was his reflex that made him dodge amaterasu. You contradicted what your statements.

you accepted that we are correct that there is speed involve and not all reflex.

2. Did you not get my example? I'll explain this again.

If the distance is 100 meters for example and amaterasu travels at a constant speed of 500mph, can A dodge it when he moves slower than that? NO.

Now we will consider the distance. You want me to believe that the reason why A dodged it because he moves the moment amaterasu was cast. In that scan of yours, A dodge it the moment it hits him

Let's consider both speed and distance now.

Since amaterasu can travel 500mph as an example, even if it's 1m away from A, it's speed will always be 500mph because it is constantly moving. So, if A was able to dodge it right before it touches him then he was moving faster than amaterasu from his stand point to where he landed.

 

[Frikid]

AGreed

 

[Dantee]

1. He can feel the change in pressure (everybody can feel pressure changes because our body will react to it)

If we're at ground level where we have the maximum amount of air above then we suddenly go to the top of the mountain, we can feel the change in pressure because there is hardly air above the mountain compared to the ground level. If there is a change in pressure, our body can definitely feel it. Like what zetsu said, the air around ITachi is changing. It could be from cool air to warm air. It's normal that everybody can feel whenever there's a change in pressure because the body will react to its change.

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Nagato was able to sense Amaterasu by feeling the "PRESSURE".

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You don't have to be a sensor to feel a change in pressure because whenever there is a change in pressure, the body reacts to it. A sensor is a type of ninja that is capable of detecting the presence of other people through their chakra. Chakra is not involve when feeling the change in pressure.

2. He was able to dodge A's fastest attack twice

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and here:

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For someone who was able to dodge A's full speed that was use to dodge Amaterasu can't dodge Amaterasu? Where's the logic of that?:sy:

3. Amaterasu burns whatever the eye FOCUSES on.. It means that you can't burn what your eyes can't focus. It will only takes a common sense to know if Itachi can focus on the body of Minato to be able to hit him.

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this was also been proven when

4. Sasuke was able to outrun Amaterasu in a few seconds. If you will look closely, the fire goes after Sasuke which Itachi has focused on and not the area that was on its field of vision. Running takes time and we know that FTG doesn't involve time...Another common sense...

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5. Amaterasu can be outsmarted by using a replacement technique. Sasuke was able to use a replacement technique to get out of amaterasu. Well, Minato may not be needing this because he can disappear in an instant. How can someone focus his eyes on for what he can't see?

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This is just a counter to the other thread.:scorps:

1. Zetsu is a sensor and he felt the air change around Itachi not his opponent.

2. Raikages attacks... as fast as it might be is not instant unlike Amaterasu

3/4. You said it yourself it hits whatever the user focuses on. Itachi was never aiming to kill Sasuke and was trying to focus on his wing.

5. You mean the log trick? really

All and all faulty thread.

 

[iSpeak]

The thread was closed. This is my reply to you Ispeak




Now you are proving me right!! All you said, I gave it as an example.



First off, at the bolded part, now you said that speed was involve because you knew that he was moving. If you can see your previous posts before I came in, you neglected speed and you say that it was his reflex that made him dodge amaterasu. You contradicted what your statements.

you accepted that we are correct that there is speed involve and not all reflex.

2. Did you not get my example? I'll explain this again.

If the distance is 100 meters for example and amaterasu travels at a constant speed of 500mph, can A dodge it when he moves slower than that? NO.

Now we will consider the distance. You want me to believe that the reason why A dodged it because he moves the moment amaterasu was cast. In that scan of yours, A dodge it the moment it hits him

Let's consider both speed and distance now.

Since amaterasu can travel 500mph as an example, even if it's 1m away from A, it's speed will always be 500mph because it is constantly moving. So, if A was able to dodge it right before it touches him then he was moving faster than amaterasu from his stand point to where he landed.

Wtf? When did I ever say there was no speed involved in dodging something???? Do you think I am that stupid??? Of course there is speed!! It is obvious you havn't been reading my posts properly.
As for your example... I hope that is not what you are trying to use to say that Raikage was moving faster is it? Because that is completely wrong. You have no clue of the distance between Amaterasu and the Raikage at that point because of the angle at which it was shown.
Let me explain again why Amaterasu is faster... if there is anything which is wrong in what I said then tell me.

The Raikage started his dodging motion in the bottom right panel. Note the distance between Raikage and the flames in the bottom left panel.

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Now notice how far Amaterasu has traveled from the last page, and how far Raikage has traveled from the last page.

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As you can see, the distance which Amaterasu covered is greater than the distance which the Raikage covered in that same amount of time, with the Amaterasu being able to reach all the way to the guy at the back whereas the Raikage had hardly moved much from the last panel. Also, it is evident that he never stopped after dodging the flames since he carried on going until he was fully out of Sasuke's eye sight, and appeared behind him whilst he was still looking forward. The main reason Raikage even went V2 is to move faster than Sasuke can see (which is why C made the statement on his Armor before)
Therefore: Because Amaterasu covered a greater distance than the Raikage in the same amount of time, and we know that speed = distance/time, Amaterasu is faster than V2 Raikage in speed. So simply put, since Minato was barely able to dodge Raikage's V2... he wouldn't be able to dodge an even faster attack.

 

[ajpn920]

Wtf? When did I ever say there was no speed involved in dodging something???? Do you think I am that stupid??? Of course there is speed!! It is obvious you havn't been reading my posts properly.
As for your example... I hope that is not what you are trying to use to say that Raikage was moving faster is it? Because that is completely wrong. You have no clue of the distance between Amaterasu and the Raikage at that point because of the angle at which it was shown.
Let me explain again why Amaterasu is faster... if there is anything which is wrong in what I said then tell me.

The Raikage started his dodging motion in the bottom right panel. Note the distance between Raikage and the flames in the bottom left panel.

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Now notice how far Amaterasu has traveled from the last page, and how far Raikage has traveled from the last page.

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As you can see, the distance which Amaterasu covered is greater than the distance which the Raikage covered in that same amount of time, with the Amaterasu being able to reach all the way back to the guy at the back whereas the Raikage had hardly moved that much from the last panel. Also, it is evident that he never stopped after dodging the flames since he carried on going until he was fully out of Sasuke's eye sight, and appeared behind him whilst he was still looking forward. The main reason Raikage even went V2 is to move faster than Sasuke can see (which is why C made the statement on his Armor before)
Therefore: Because Amaterasu covered a greater distance than the Raikage in the same amount of time, and we know that speed = distance/time, Amaterasu is faster than V2 Raikage in speed. So simply put, since Minato was barely able to dodge Raikage's V2... he wouldn't be able to dodge an even faster attack.

why are we arguing then if that's the case. Let me check your posts and owarij.

since Minato was barely able to dodge Raikage's V2... he wouldn't be able to dodge an even faster attack

what? barely able to dodge? Are you kidding me? Is this the sign of barely able to dodge?

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As you can see, the distance which Amaterasu covered is greater than the distance which the Raikage covered in that same amount of time, with the Amaterasu being able to reach all the way back to the guy at the back whereas the Raikage had hardly moved that much from the last panel. Also, it is evident that he never stopped after dodging the flames since he carried on going until he was fully out of Sasuke's eye sight, and appeared behind him whilst he was still looking forward.

it is not about the distance covered because we are talking about the speed of amaterasu before it hits A. A dodges it the moment it touches him.

If you can dodge something that close then you are moving faster than the one coming at you. That's common sense.

Look back at my example. If amaterasu is moving at 500mph, then at 1m before it can hit A, it's speed will always be 500mph. So A dodging it, means that he was able to move faster than amaterasu at a certain point. This is his standpoint to where he landed.

As I always say, you can be faster to a certain point but not to whole distance.

By the way, you saying that you did not argue about reflex only means that your partner Owarij is done. He is out of the equation now because he believes that A uses his reflex to dodge than using speed because you were able to convince him. I wonder how he will react to this and how you will react the moment we will find your post saying that A uses reflex alone to dodge amaterasu and not speed..good luck