minato cant dodge amaterasu

[ajpn920]

Look, some people can't understand everything they read. Maybe you can't understand what I posted in those Minato threads. I myself can't understand everything. Some people were agreeing with me and some don't. It's not my fault that you don't understand.

Just because you can't understand something does not mean that it is wrong. Maybe you were not able to understand my posts in those threads. I myself cannot understand Rocket Science... does that mean that it is wrong?

I'm sorry for being arrogant, but I did prove those guys wrong.

Just ignore those guys..whether they apply science or not, they'll get owned once more. I want to ask this question to Ispeak and Owarij...

@ Ispeak and Owarij: If you say that science should not be involve then give me the exact MANGA DEFINITION of reflex. Be sure not to give the real meaning. All we know in the manga is speed because they are moving fast.

 

[iSpeak]

Ispeak uses an example of a man and a car. Why can't he tell that speed comes along with movement. You can't dodge something fast when you are not faster.

Example:

A car has a constant speed of 500mph. The car started at point A (from rest) to point B where it has the speed of 500 mph. Since it is constantly moving, from point B to point C its speed should be 500mph. A person is standing at point C. 1 meter away from point C, the car will hit the person.

Question:

What would be the speed of the car to reach that person?

Ans: it should be 500mph because the car is constantly moving at that rate.

Now, that person can move at a speed of 600mph from rest. He noticed the car at exactly 1 meter away from him and reacted instantly.

Question:

Can the person dodge the car?

Obviously he can because his speed is greater than the speed of the car.

Ajp... I don't know why you are telling me this. You are contradicting your own statement.
Did you not say this?

A's full speed was use to dodge Amaterasu. Meaning, his speed is faster than Amaterasu.

Do you not see how much nonsence that is? Which is why I posted you the car example to show you the many different factors which are included in dodging something... its not just their speed vs your speed.
I have already explained why Amaterasu is faster than Raikage... go and re read my post on your thread. Clearly the distance Amaterasu traveled is much further than the distance Raikage traveled. The Raikage never stopped moving after he dodged it, he kept on going until he was fully out of Sasuke's eye sight, and appeared behind him whilst he was still looking forward. The main reason Raikage even went V2 is to move faster than Sasuke can see (which is why C made the statement on his Armor before).

 

[ReapTermin]

Just ignore those guys..whether they apply science or not, they'll get owned once more. I want to ask this question to Ispeak and Owarij...

@ Ispeak and Owarij: If you say that science should not be involve then give me the exact MANGA DEFINITION of reflex. Be sure not to give the real meaning. All we know in the manga is speed because they are moving fast.

See you later. Gotta get some rest.

 

[ajpn920]

Ajp... I don't know why you are telling me this. You are contradicting your own statement.
Did you not say this?

Do you not see how much nonsence that is? Which is why I posted you the car example to show you the many different factors which are included in dodging something... its not their speed vs your speed.
I have already explained why Amaterasu is faster than Raikage... go and re read my post on your thread. Clearly the distance Amaterasu traveled is much further than the distance Raikage traveled. The Raikage never stopped moving after he dodged it, he kept on going until he was fully out of Sasuke's eye sight, and appeared behind him whilst he was still looking forward. The main reason Raikage even went V2 is to move faster than Sasuke can see (which is why C made the statement on his Armor before).

Why is that nonsense? How can you dodge something fast if you are not faster?

Let me tell you this to clear your mind. You can be faster at a certain point and not to a distant point. Get what I mean?

You can be the fastest person at 100m but not in 400m. Until now you can't get it right. Speed comes along with movement. A's movement has speed and not reflex alone.

Do you realize that even the blink of an eye has speed? Why did you argue that A does not use speed and reflex alone?


EDIT: if I'm not mistaken, you convince others that A dodging Amaterasu is not speed and reflex alone. We debated Owarij with this because you convince him with your twisted idea not realizing that movement has speed involve.

You did not understand my post? I did not contradict my statement. read it carefully and be sure to understand what you're reading before saying something stupid.

 

[iSpeak]

Why is that nonsense? How can you dodge something fast if you are not faster?

Let me tell you this to clear your mind. You can be faster at a certain point and not to a distant point. Get what I mean?

You can be the fastest person at 100m but not in 400m. Until now you can't get it right. Speed comes along with movement. A's movement has speed and not reflex alone.

Do you realize that even the blink of an eye has speed? Why did you argue that A does not use speed and reflex alone?

Exactly! So how can you randomly jump to the conclusion that Raikage is faster than Amaterasu simply because he dodged it? That is what I said was nonsence. There are other factors to include.

A's full speed was use to dodge Amaterasu. Meaning, his speed is faster than Amaterasu.

This quote is why I said it was nonsense. You simply concluded that Raikage was faster than Amaterasu just because he dodged it... you never took into consideration the distance between them etc. But I did.
I gave you a detailed explanation of why the Amaterasu was faster.. was there anything I said in it which is wrong? Everything I said there was legit.

 

[ajpn920]

Exactly! So how can you randomly jump to the conclusion that Raikage is faster than Amaterasu simply because he dodged it? That is what I said was nonsence. There are other factors to include.

This quote is why I said it was nonsense. You simply concluded that Raikage was faster than Amaterasu just because he dodged it... you never took into consideration the distance between them etc. But I did.
I gave you a detailed explanation of why the Amaterasu was faster.. was there anything I said in it which is wrong? Everything I said there was legit.

There are other factors to include.

What are those other factors? Care to elaborate.

You mean that a person with slow movement can dodge something faster than his movement? Read my example Ispeak.

Moving constant means the same speed from a certain point to another point. As I said, you can be faster at a certain point but not to a certain distant.

edit: pls read my example of the 500mph car..it will help you a lot

 

[Blaze Release]

I understand the difference between speed and reflex. Some people think that you can dodge something with just reflex. You need reflex and speed. And the distance and speed of what you are trying to dodge is what determines on how good your reflexes must be to be able to see it and how much speed you need to be able to dodge it.

And I know Kishimoto does not use too much science in his Manga, but it makes me a little angry when people don't know that reflexes alone will not help you dodge something.

Meh not getting into this because both sides are wrong. As i said there is a limit to science in the manga. When both sides are taking it too far, both sides are wrong U_U

Look, some people can't understand everything they read. Maybe you can't understand what I posted in those Minato threads. I myself can't understand everything. Some people were agreeing with me and some don't. It's not my fault that you don't understand.

Just because you can't understand something does not mean that it is wrong. Maybe you were not able to understand my posts in those threads. I myself cannot understand Rocket Science... does that mean that it is wrong?

I'm sorry for being arrogant, but I did prove those guys wrong.

Why are you sorry for being arrogant?. What baffles me is why you are arrogant. U_U

 

[iSpeak]

What are those other factors? Care to elaborate.

You mean that a person with slow movement can dodge something faster than his movement? Read my example Ispeak.

Moving constant means the same speed from a certain point to another point. As I said, you can be faster at a certain point but not to a certain distant.

Ajpn... you are only proving me right!
I said there are many factors in dodging. In Raikage's situation, it was his speed, reflex, reaction time, Amaterasu's speed, Amaterasu's size and the distance between them.
In Minato + Raikage's situation, there was speed, reaction time, distance, the length of the Raikage's arm etc.
If the distance between them is closer than the distance which they need to escape, then they need to travel faster than that object aswell. I have already explained using this, why Amaterasu was faster than the Raikage... did you read my post?

 

[Dantee]

iSpeak pretty much turned this into his thread.