Misconception: Mei's Suiton is better than Tobirama's.

[MinaButt]

Mei>Tobirama when it comes to suiton still.

 

[ShinjuMadara]

Tobirama is a better pure water user, 42 seals in 1 is unparalleled, but Mei is stronger due to her ability to use lava and mist kekkei genkais.

In an actual battle though, Tobirama takes it low diff. Shadow Clones + FTG + Edo Tensei (assuming prep time) wrecks Mei

 

[grizzlyshree]

Tobirama clearly has larger suiton techs. another thing is the hokages havent shown their ultimate techniques(wit tsunade as exception).

 

[enditallsin]

who cares her suiton is far larger, tell me this you have to try to tank Mei's huge suiton or Tobirama's less large suiton which do you pick? and your life is on the line here

Get that lifeline bullshit outta my face, and how strong would mei's suiton feats be if she was a edo that wasn't even close to full power?(they wouldn't be shit) tobirama has more suiton jutsus than mei, tobirma's suiton has proven to be stronger, using water bullets strong enough to shoot through chakra enhanced earth walls, and cut through even the limbs of the shinju, and the fact that he's able to use high level suiton jutsu's that usually require many more handseals to execute isa testament that he is far more skilled than this cougar.

 

[Nattana]

Tobirama is a better pure water user, 42 seals in 1 is unparalleled, but Mei is stronger due to her ability to use lava and mist kekkei genkais.

In an actual battle though, Tobirama takes it low diff. Shadow Clones + FTG + Edo Tensei (assuming prep time) wrecks Mei

Mei used Water Dragon Bullet with 1 hand seal as well -.-

 

[Gold Lightning]

Mei used Water Dragon Bullet with 1 hand seal as well -.-

Morons right

 

[ghiiee]

Mei's suiton looks better than tobi's. But the powerful one? I think it belongs to tobi... maybe..

 

[shelke]

Get that lifeline bullshit outta my face, and how strong would mei's suiton feats be if she was a edo that wasn't even close to full power?(they wouldn't be shit) tobirama has more suiton jutsus than mei, tobirma's suiton has proven to be stronger, using water bullets strong enough to shoot through chakra enhanced earth walls, and cut through even the limbs of the shinju, and the fact that he's able to use high level suiton jutsu's that usually require many more handseals to execute isa testament that he is far more skilled than this cougar.

Nice made up facts.

 

[enditallsin]

Nice made up facts.

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Jutsu



Bringer-of-Darkness Technique (Anime only)


Flying Thunder God Slash (Manga only)


Four Red Yang Formation (Manga only)


Mutually Instantaneous Revolving Technique (Manga only)


Mutually Multiplying Explosive Tags (Manga only)


Sensing (Manga only)


Shadow Clone Technique (Manga only)


Summoning: Impure World Reincarnation


Water Release: Water Colliding Wave (Anime only)


Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique


Water Release: Water Formation Wall


Water Release: Water Severing Wave

those are all of tobirama's jutsu's that have been shown...



Jutsu



Boil Release: Skilled Mist Technique


Hiding in Mist Technique


Lava Release: Lava Globs


Lava Release: Melting Apparition Technique


Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique


Water Release: Water Formation Pillar

And these are all mei's

read the link while you're at it I don't make shit up..

 

[RicardoA]

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Jutsu



Bringer-of-Darkness Technique (Anime only)


Flying Thunder God Slash (Manga only)


Four Red Yang Formation (Manga only)


Mutually Instantaneous Revolving Technique (Manga only)


Mutually Multiplying Explosive Tags (Manga only)


Sensing (Manga only)


Shadow Clone Technique (Manga only)


Summoning: Impure World Reincarnation


Water Release: Water Colliding Wave (Anime only)


Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique


Water Release: Water Formation Wall


Water Release: Water Severing Wave

those are all of tobirama's jutsu's that have been shown...



Jutsu



Boil Release: Skilled Mist Technique


Hiding in Mist Technique


Lava Release: Lava Globs


Lava Release: Melting Apparition Technique


Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique


Water Release: Water Formation Pillar

And these are all mei's

read the link while you're at it I don't make shit up..

You just buried yourself :|

In that link Tobirama clearly says the Hokages were brought back close to their "full power".
And why are you copying all of Tobirama's jutsus from narutopedia, with filler jutsus included? I didn't know Bringer of Darkness was both canon and a Suiton Lol

 

[shelke]

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Jutsu



Bringer-of-Darkness Technique (Anime only)


Flying Thunder God Slash (Manga only)


Four Red Yang Formation (Manga only)


Mutually Instantaneous Revolving Technique (Manga only)


Mutually Multiplying Explosive Tags (Manga only)


Sensing (Manga only)


Shadow Clone Technique (Manga only)


Summoning: Impure World Reincarnation


Water Release: Water Colliding Wave (Anime only)


Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique


Water Release: Water Formation Wall


Water Release: Water Severing Wave

those are all of tobirama's jutsu's that have been shown...



Jutsu



Boil Release: Skilled Mist Technique


Hiding in Mist Technique


Lava Release: Lava Globs


Lava Release: Melting Apparition Technique


Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique


Water Release: Water Formation Pillar

And these are all mei's

read the link while you're at it I don't make shit up..

So, you added several other techniques which are either from the anime (thus non-canon) or have nothing to do with Suiton or the topic of the thread at hand? And then showed me a scan that completely negates what you said:

Get that lifeline bullshit outta my face, and how strong would mei's suiton feats be if she was a edo that wasn't even close to full power?(they wouldn't be shit) tobirama has more suiton jutsus than mei, tobirma's suiton has proven to be stronger, using water bullets strong enough to shoot through chakra enhanced earth walls, and cut through even the limbs of the shinju, and the fact that he's able to use high level suiton jutsu's that usually require many more handseals to execute isa testament that he is far more skilled than this cougar.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

How are people scaling this. Tobirama (Part 1/weaker) made the same as Mei's. If you look at his Water Dragon it was able to gulp up Hiruzen easily, and the wall Hiruzen made it scale larger then Hiruzen.

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Keep in mind that Hiruzen is average size like Madara, so it isn't making much of a difference lol.


Tobirama>Mei

 

[End of Days]

EjBlack I thought hiruzen was a midget

 

[Brother Numpsay]

EjBlack I thought hiruzen was a midget

He is still human size regardless. Doesnt change the fact a weaker version of Tobirama water scaling is on par with Mei.

 

[Gold Lightning]

He is still human size regardless. Doesnt change the fact a weaker version of Tobirama water scaling is on par with Mei.

Pretty sure most people were talking about the mass of her giant water spout jutsu that pretty much engulfed and overwhelmed Madara's fire style (which is supposed to be the biggest fire jutsu in the manga).

Also her skill in being able to also use water dragon with 1 seal. Plus the fact that she first created that massive water spout then immediately interchanged it with water dragon (something I don't think we've ever really seen anyone do). Plus she has the hidden mist jutsu.

Bottom line is that she's a master water style user and there is nothing that remotely suggests that she's inferior to Tobirama in this department. Not to mention that her boil release is also water that is severely heated with the addition of fire style, which he can adjust the ph levels of. Mei is a beast at ninjutsu is all I'm saying, 2 kekkei genkai o_o

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Pretty sure most people were talking about the mass of her giant water spout jutsu that pretty much engulfed and overwhelmed Madara's fire style (which is supposed to be the biggest fire jutsu in the manga).

Also her skill in being able to also use water dragon with 1 seal. Plus the fact that she first created that massive water spout then immediately interchanged it with water dragon (something I don't think we've ever really seen anyone do). Plus she has the hidden mist jutsu.

Bottom line is that she's a master water style user and there is nothing that remotely suggests that she's inferior to Tobirama in this department. Not to mention that her boil release is also water that is severely heated with the addition of fire style, which he can adjust the ph levels of. Mei is a beast at ninjutsu is all I'm saying, 2 kekkei genkai o_o

I agree with this. My post was concerning people scaling Tobirama's Suiton to hers. They are stating that his jutsu are puny compare to her. But actually, it can be scale the same size, considering Tobirama is nerfed.

That fact remain if he were at full power and portray gives Tobirama the victory

 

[enditallsin]

You just buried yourself :|

In that link Tobirama clearly says the Hokages were brought back close to their "full power".
And why are you copying all of Tobirama's jutsus from narutopedia, with filler jutsus included? I didn't know Bringer of Darkness was both canon and a Suiton Lol

=signs- i figured it would come to this point....the link i sent was tobirama in the (WAR) saying that they were bought back almost "at full power" that's in the (WAR) key word the WAR... BUT...!! when tobirama and hashirama fought sarutobi their power wasn't as high as it now hence tobirama saying "This time were ALMOST at full power" in the (WAR) Now moving...All im saying is that if mei was a edo her water jutsu's wouldn't be so strong especially if your comparing her to the power tobiram was at when he was 1st revived.

 

[enditallsin]

So, you added several other techniques which are either from the anime (thus non-canon) or have nothing to do with Suiton or the topic of the thread at hand? And then showed me a scan that completely negates what you said:

look at my post below an the below, i copied and pasted so i just happened to show you the water techniques that both tobirama and mei use the other jutsus were just in the way disregard them and focus strictly on the water jutsu's.

 

[Gold Lightning]

I agree with this. My post was concerning people scaling Tobirama's Suiton to hers. They are stating that his jutsu are puny compare to her. But actually, it can be scale the same size, considering Tobirama is nerfed.

That fact remain if he were at full power and portray gives Tobirama the victory

Well we'll have to see. At the moment, feats are in Mei's favour. We can't exactly scale Tobirama's power from part 1 and be completely accurate, we're just guessing. For the mean time I still say Mei has the better water style, and Kisame is on another level entirely imo.

I always used to imagine Tobirama creating oceans of water and surfing it back in the day. Probably got that from playing too many ultimate ninja games.

 

[RicardoA]

=signs- i figured it would come to this point....the link i sent was tobirama in the (WAR) saying that they were bought back almost "at full power" that's in the (WAR) key word the WAR... BUT...!! when tobirama and hashirama fought sarutobi their power wasn't as high as it now hence tobirama saying "This time were ALMOST at full power" in the (WAR) Now moving...All im saying is that if mei was a edo her water jutsu's wouldn't be so strong especially if your comparing her to the power tobiram was at when he was 1st revived.

The difference is minimal, hence the "almost". Add a little bit of strenght to Tobirama's Suiton, Mei still outclasses.
Its almost like comparing Yamato to Hashirama.
The only thing going for him is hype. Even by portrayal i'd consider her to be above, because Tobirama was never said to match Madara's Katons in power while Mei did it effortlessly, which is very impressive even if it wasn't highlited by Kishi. Her main strenght lies in the use of her elements, while his main strenght lies in the use FTG combined with intellect. She's also the leader of the village who uses Suiton as their main element.
There's just too much going for her.