Minato's Sage mode was obvious.

[Flawž]

Tobirama clearly has sage mode as he would've had the chance to learn it at the same time as Hashirama. It doesn't matter that he never used it at the most opportune time or anything like that it's simply so obvious he does.

Same story for Hiruzen - Son Goku states he's a sage so monkey sage mode must exist.

Tobirama calls Hiruzen Saru; Saru = Monkey. I need not explain the rest.

Worst troll attempt yet. Please escort yourself out of here immediately.

 

[-Punk-]

False, Minato had the full capability to use SM with BM.. though he did not. Anyone who disagrees with that, obviously fails to read the scans of explanation.

"wireless susanoo".. #TrendingSinceItachi... no asspull there.


@You trying to compare Minato to Hashirama... holy lord.

Oh man , with you I'm not even gonna bother.

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[KingHashirama]

Tobirama clearly has sage mode as he would've had the chance to learn it at the same time as Hashirama. It doesn't matter that he never used it at the most opportune time or anything like that it's simply so obvious he does.

Same story for Hiruzen - Son Goku states he's a sage so monkey sage mode must exist.

Tobirama calls Hiruzen Saru; Saru = Monkey. I need not explain the rest.

Oh lets not forget he knows about the Toads also. And plus his clan's name is "Senju".

 

[mrcrazyboyravi]

^^^^^^^^^ This pretty much counters the "obviousness" that you believe is there.

was Hashirama's SM and 1000 hand buddha an ass pull too. There was never a SM mentioned except jiraiya and Naruto. How da fuk Hashirama pulled off SM and 1000 hand buddha in an instant. similarly Hashirama also pulled off 5 door rashmond to protect himself from TBB so was that an ass pull too ?????

 

[WolfHaley]

Worst troll attempt yet. Please escort yourself out of here immediately.

It's not a troll attempt it's just logical. It's so obvious, the evidence was always there.

Oh lets not forget he knows about the Toads also. And plus his clan's name is "Senju".

Or that the Databooklet has him down for being obsessed with self perfection. Surely Sage chakra would lead to that end.

 

[Flawž]

It's not a troll attempt it's just logical. It's so obvious, the evidence was always there.

Yea, just leave.

 

[WolfHaley]

Yea, just leave.

Don't think I'll be doing that.

 

[IamtheGodofUchihaforever]

It's not a troll attempt it's just logical. It's so obvious, the evidence was always there.

Im gonna make a thread with your posts tomorrow so people can laugh at you.. dont bother trying to delete them... already got it ready Lol

 

[Punk Hazard]

Well the best reason i can think of is the fact that obito was a S/T user and Minato had the perfect counter for it [FTG], Sage mode would of wasted his time fighting someone who can casually dodge any attacks you throw at him.

.Minato didn't needed SM against Obito , why use something you don't need + remember it always takes time to gather senjutsu , Minato didn't had the time back then .

.How are those scans not give you hints ? Minato had a contract with the toads , just like J - man & Naruto ...he having a contract pretty much tells you that he probably even went & knows Mount myoboku . I agree as a Minato fan never thought he would actually have it , but I always did wondered & now that it happened it does make sense , if you look back at everything .

.Why would he use it against Jubito? , when BM is stronger than SM + remember that they found out that senjutsu would work against Jubito in the middle of the fight & it worked by fusing SM & BM like Naruto did , which clearly shows that Minato probably couldn't do that .

.And are you telling me that Hashimara can pull SM that fast but Minato can't ? keep in mind that Edo Tensai probably came into play & made it easier to transform & if that's not enough for you ........before Minato went SM , Madara was giving a speech , which clearly gave the opening to everyone to prepare , including Minato .

Just my two cents . Minato was known as a prodigy/genius , this shouldn't be much of a surprise , why do you need to read the words "Minato also knew SM" in the manga to not call it an as pull ? ......Kishi is always giving hints .
You want as pulls , wireless Susano is more of an ass pull than what Minato did .

Because KCM and BM are stronger than Sage mode. Sage mode is more effective against juubito true, But Minato already knew that Naruto was using sage mode so he could [in need] give him senjutsu if it came to it. KCM/BM is better for minato's style due to the fact that He can move faster and the extra chakra supply wouldn't hurt.

1. Let's first address Sage Mode not being necessary against Obito. First off, Minato did not know it was Obito. He thought it was Madara. Based on his deductions that gave him the conclusion of Madara, and his dialogue concerning Madara, such as that he'd bring trouble for the whole world, it means Minato knows that Madara is extremely powerful and dangerous. It means Minato was taking Obito with the utmost seriousness. This is an individual that was capable of sneaking into Konoha, and taming the Kyubi without being a Jinchuriki, the later is something even Minato could not accomplish. He was able to sneak past Minato to get into Kushina's birthing area. There is no good reason as to why Minato would not deal with him permanently. He killed that random fodder back when Kakashi first used Chidori, why would he not attack who he thinks is Madara with intent to kill? Not to mention attacked his newborn son directly and essentially killed Kushina when he removed Kurama. There is no good reason as to why Minato did not use it against Obito, other than the fact that Kishi only recently decided that Minato would have Sage Mode. That in itself makes it an asspull.

2. KM/BM being stronger does not matter. What matters is the power that is more useful. When locating and removing the chakra rods from the Bijuu, Naruto used Sage Mode because he knew it was more useful in that situation, even though KM was stronger. If a complete shitbrain like Naruto was able to figure that out, and make such a good judgement, why wouldn't Minato? Minato is very intelligent, so do you really think it makes sense that he would stay in KM and not use SM at any point? Think about it, Naruto is already using BM and SM. If SM is Juubito's weakness, wouldn't it make more sense and be more efficient to have two SM users and one BM user, rather than one SM user and two BM users? Wouldn't it make sense for Minato to figure that out?

3. Minato was capable of using BM, Kurama stated only a Jink on good terms with his Bijuu can do this. What Kurama was referring to when he said Naruto surpassed both Kushina and Minato is sharing chakra with others. It has nothing to do with using Sage Mode. The fact that Naruto was capable of using Sage Mode before becoming Kurama's friends further stresses that what Kurama said about Naruto surpassing his parents in charka-sharing is a non-factor.

 

[xcoyote]

Yup,it was an obvious retcon.

 

[End of Days]

I find it funny that people who used to make fun of minato saying that he only has ftg and rasengan are the first ones to scream asspull at anything he does

that being said characters use sage mode only when they literally have no choice, hashirama did not pull out sage mode until madara started throwing bijuudama with perfect susanoo swords
jiraiya only decided to enter sage mode when he had heard how pain stomped danzo

minato had a plan to beat obito and he used it, thats all there was to it, obito simply couldnt push him far enough for him to feel the need to use sage mode
minato also did not feel the need to use hiraishin stage three on obito

 

[KingHashirama]

was Hashirama's SM and 1000 hand buddha an ass pull too. There was never a SM mentioned except jiraiya and Naruto. How da fuk Hashirama pulled off SM and 1000 hand buddha in an instant. similarly Hashirama also pulled off 5 door rashmond to protect himself from TBB so was that an ass pull too ?????

Obviously you fail to comprehend what an "asspull" is meant when we are using it for Minato.


1. Hashirama's powers were never revealed.

2. Hashirama isn't a TOAD sage.. Minato is.. Big difference

3. Hashirama is the God of Shinobi.. don't even try to compare Minato and others to him.

4. The guy can create forests in an instant.. why can't he create a buddha?

5. Rashoman is obviously a Senju jutsu..



Now answer me this, did you not see Hashirama using SM right off the bat as an Edo.. yes or no?

Minato could've easily used it to amplify the Barrier more. Oh hell not only that but help out the alliance also..

#GetReal

 

[WolfHaley]

Im gonna make a thread with your posts tomorrow so people can laugh at you.. dont bother trying to delete them... already got it ready Lol

Please link me.

 

[Zavage10]

was Hashirama's SM and 1000 hand buddha an ass pull too. There was never a SM mentioned except jiraiya and Naruto. How da fuk Hashirama pulled off SM and 1000 hand buddha in an instant. similarly Hashirama also pulled off 5 door rashmond to protect himself from TBB so was that an ass pull too ?????

... you dont earn the nickname god of shinobi for nothing.

Ps The leader of the senju clan can use senjutsu... senju senjutsu senju senjutsu....

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Please link me.

I arrived a bit late and haven't bothered to read everything from the earlier pages. But, which side are you on? Seems like some bickering is going on with you and a few others...

 

[WolfHaley]

I arrived a bit late and haven't bothered to read everything from the earlier pages. But, which side are you on? Seems like some bickering is going on with you and a few others...

The side that's right.

 

[Dantee]

I do believe it was foreshadowed by Pa's statements because it now makes more sense. Problem however is that it wasn't well introduced, mainly because of Minato's earlier surprise when seeing Naruto's SM, comparing it to Jiraya's instead of his own when his own seems identical to that of his son, so for that i agree it made things seem far-fetch, but before the war, if Kishimoto had said Minato had SM, it wouldn't have surprised me at all because of Pa's comparison during Pain's attack

I actually partially agree in the sense of it not being well introduced. If Kishi showed us before hand or gave Minato an imperfect transformation, I'd honestly be fine with it because at least it would make more sense imo.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

The side that's right.

That sure does answer my question, thank you sir.

 

[Flawž]

1. Let's first address Sage Mode not being necessary against Obito. First off, Minato did not know it was Obito. He thought it was Madara. Based on his deductions that gave him the conclusion of Madara, and his dialogue concerning Madara, such as that he'd bring trouble for the whole world, it means Minato knows that Madara is extremely powerful and dangerous. It means Minato was taking Obito with the utmost seriousness. This is an individual that was capable of sneaking into Konoha, and taming the Kyubi without being a Jinchuriki, the later is something even Minato could not accomplish. He was able to sneak past Minato to get into Kushina's birthing area. There is no good reason as to why Minato would not deal with him permanently. He killed that random fodder back when Kakashi first used Chidori, why would he attack who he thinks is Madara with intent to kill? There is no good reason as to why Minato did not use it against Obito, other than the fact that Kishi only recently decided that Minato would have Sage Mode. That in itself makes it an asspull.

2. KM/BM being stronger does not matter. What matters is the power that is more useful. When locating and removing the chakra rods from the Bijuu, Naruto used Sage Mode because he knew it was more useful in that situation, even though KM was stronger. If a complete shitbrain like Naruto was able to figure that out, and make such a good judgement, why wouldn't Minato? Minato is very intelligent, so do you really think it makes sense that he would stay in KM and not use SM at any point? Think about it, Naruto is already using BM and SM. If SM is Juubito's weakness, wouldn't it make more sense and be more efficient to have two SM users and one BM user, rather than one SM user and two BM users? Wouldn't it make sense for Minato to figure that out?

The fact that "Madara" was a S/t User just proves why he didn't bother using sage mode against him. Minato knew that the only way to counter S/t is by another S/t Jutsu, hence why his main attack was FTG.

And i already discussed the other points with you already.

 

[~Sky~]

Again, people are assuming too much about the limits of Minato's Sage Mode.

His Nature Energy imbued Rasengan barely hurt Kakashi, yet it would've made a difference against Obito? (Back in Obito's assault on the Leaf)