Minato's Sage mode was obvious.
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Well the best reason i can think of is the fact that obito was a S/T user and Minato had the perfect counter for it [FTG], Sage mode would of wasted his time fighting someone who can casually dodge any attacks you throw at him.
You just need to actually piece together some logical explanation to what you just quoted me on. That's your challenge. You have five minutes.
I too am one of those fans. It was so obvious I thought very one knew this was coming.
'Read the F-ing manga' comes to mind here.
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Young Vongola
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Him having SM isn't the asspull, him having PERFECT SM is an asspull. Since he has perfect SM, it makes no sense in saying that Naruto has surpassed him because they have the same damn SM. Also just because he can summon toads doesn't mean he can use SM...Sasuke can summon snakes - he doesn't have SM. Tsunade and Sakura summon slugs, they don't have SM (it's hinted one exists, maybe Tsunade can use it or maybe it's what Hashi uses, who knows).
I feel like if Minato had imperfect SM it wouldn't have been received so negatively. But him being a perfect sage is definitely an asspull. Shit while training Naruto Fukusaku even says something about being specific to Naruto and Jiraya. No mention of Minato
I feel like if Minato had imperfect SM it wouldn't have been received so negatively. But him being a perfect sage is definitely an asspull. Shit while training Naruto Fukusaku even says something about being specific to Naruto and Jiraya. No mention of Minato
.Minato didn't needed SM against Obito , why use something you don't need + remember it always takes time to gather senjutsu , Minato didn't had the time back then .
.How are those scans not give you hints ? Minato had a contract with the toads , just like J - man & Naruto ...he having a contract pretty much tells you that he probably even went & knows Mount myoboku . I agree as a Minato fan never thought he would actually have it , but I always did wondered & now that it happened it does make sense , if you look back at everything .
.Why would he use it against Jubito? , when BM is stronger than SM + remember that they found out that senjutsu would work against Jubito in the middle of the fight & it worked by fusing SM & BM like Naruto did , which clearly shows that Minato probably couldn't do that .
.And are you telling me that Hashimara can pull SM that fast but Minato can't ? keep in mind that Edo Tensai probably came into play & made it easier to transform & if that's not enough for you ........before Minato went SM , Madara was giving a speech , which clearly gave the opening to everyone to prepare , including Minato .
Just my two cents . Minato was known as a prodigy/genius , this shouldn't be much of a surprise , why do you need to read the words "Minato also knew SM" in the manga to not call it an as pull ? ......Kishi is always giving hints .
You want as pulls , wireless Susano is more of an ass pull than what Minato did .
.How are those scans not give you hints ? Minato had a contract with the toads , just like J - man & Naruto ...he having a contract pretty much tells you that he probably even went & knows Mount myoboku . I agree as a Minato fan never thought he would actually have it , but I always did wondered & now that it happened it does make sense , if you look back at everything .
.Why would he use it against Jubito? , when BM is stronger than SM + remember that they found out that senjutsu would work against Jubito in the middle of the fight & it worked by fusing SM & BM like Naruto did , which clearly shows that Minato probably couldn't do that .
.And are you telling me that Hashimara can pull SM that fast but Minato can't ? keep in mind that Edo Tensai probably came into play & made it easier to transform & if that's not enough for you ........before Minato went SM , Madara was giving a speech , which clearly gave the opening to everyone to prepare , including Minato .
Just my two cents . Minato was known as a prodigy/genius , this shouldn't be much of a surprise , why do you need to read the words "Minato also knew SM" in the manga to not call it an as pull ? ......Kishi is always giving hints .
You want as pulls , wireless Susano is more of an ass pull than what Minato did .
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It was definitely not foreshadowed, it was last minute. Anyone who thinks it wasn't is deluding themselves. Just because he summoned frogs doesn't automatically foreshadow he had Sage mode, otherwise Orochimaru would already be a sage.
IamtheGodofUchihaforever
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Because KCM and BM are stronger than Sage mode. Sage mode is more effective against juubito true, But Minato already knew that Naruto was using sage mode so he could [in need] give him senjutsu if it came to it. KCM/BM is better for minato's style due to the fact that He can move faster and the extra chakra supply wouldn't hurt.
KingHashirama
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Lets be honest here... Minato's SM > Naruto's SM from the looks of it. He pulled it out like it was nothing.
The Necromancer
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That stupidity nearly cost him his life in that fight twice. SM would have easily allowed him to counter.
SM would have also granted him the reaction time to grab Kushina and Naruto before the Kyuubi struck them with his claws.
SM would have augmented his power to be able to FTG more than a single TBB and the Kyuubi.
TheAncientCenturion
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It really wasn't.
Naruto surpassing Minato proves that he had sage mode, and summoning contracts do as well..?
Naruto surpassing Minato proves that he had sage mode, and summoning contracts do as well..?
I do believe it was foreshadowed by Pa's statements because it now makes more sense. Problem however is that it wasn't well introduced, mainly because of Minato's earlier surprise when seeing Naruto's SM, comparing it to Jiraya's instead of his own when his own seems identical to that of his son, so for that i agree it made things seem far-fetch, but before the war, if Kishimoto had said Minato had SM, it wouldn't have surprised me at all because of Pa's comparison during Pain's attack
Sage mode would of helped yes, but the main issue for him was Obito. Minato was in the heat of battle, thinking about the village and etc, Thinking clearly was probably not his best feat at that moment, remember he thought obito was madara?
The difference between Perfect and Imperfect Sage Mode is the balance of chakra. Minato may be able to perfectly balance his chakra, but considering his chakra levels aren't much compared to Naruto's, the amount of Nature energy being taken in wouldn't be as much also.
^ That's the only way I could see Kishi explaining it, IMO. =/
KingHashirama
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False, Minato had the full capability to use SM with BM.. though he did not. Anyone who disagrees with that, obviously fails to read the scans of explanation.
"wireless susanoo".. #TrendingSinceItachi... no asspull there.
@You trying to compare Minato to Hashirama... holy lord.
IamtheGodofUchihaforever
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Its ironic because you were the one without an argument... So much hypocrisy in your posts Lol
Tobirama clearly has sage mode as he would've had the chance to learn it at the same time as Hashirama. It doesn't matter that he never used it at the most opportune time or anything like that it's simply so obvious he does.
Same story for Hiruzen - Son Goku states he's a sage so monkey sage mode must exist.
Tobirama calls Hiruzen Saru; Saru = Monkey. I need not explain the rest.
Same story for Hiruzen - Son Goku states he's a sage so monkey sage mode must exist.
Tobirama calls Hiruzen Saru; Saru = Monkey. I need not explain the rest.
You have disgraced me. I have lost to your overwhelming manga facts and logic.
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