[VS] Minato vs Kakuzu

Westside

Active member
Regular
Joined
Apr 22, 2013
Messages
712
Kin
0๐Ÿ’ธ
Kumi
0๐Ÿ’ด
Trait Points
0โš”๏ธ
Even if Minato can summon Ma and Pa, it requires him to have his hands closed and requires a lot of time to summon them. In fact, it would probably take even longer than Jiraiya did.
He just goes back to konoha, chills with his friends or wife. Eats some ramen and comes back when kakuzu has let his guard down and BAMMM rasengan to the nose.
 

spike2068

Member
Joined
Mar 17, 2013
Messages
260
Kin
0๐Ÿ’ธ
Kumi
0๐Ÿ’ด
Trait Points
0โš”๏ธ
Even if Minato can summon Ma and Pa, it requires him to have his hands closed and requires a lot of time to summon them. In fact, it would probably take even longer than Jiraiya did.

lol under what basis do you ASSUME it would take minato longer to summon frogs than jiraiya? if we are using logic it should take less time since the 4th was clearly the stronger of the two
 

MinatoFLASH

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Jul 28, 2011
Messages
2,996
Kin
0๐Ÿ’ธ
Kumi
0๐Ÿ’ด
Trait Points
0โš”๏ธ
You fail to understand that minato just like J man had a contract with toads. And it didn't take him much time to summon ma and pa he just needed time for sage mode... Lol

Not to mention kakuzu doesn't have the reflexes to even put up his armor in time so Minato might not even need those toads here lol
 

Rainbow Dash

Active member
Elite
Joined
Dec 9, 2012
Messages
9,702
Kin
32๐Ÿ’ธ
Kumi
0๐Ÿ’ด
Trait Points
0โš”๏ธ
Awards
You fail to understand that minato just like J man had a contract with toads. And it didn't take him much time to summon ma and pa he just needed time for sage mode... Lol

Not to mention kakuzu doesn't have the reflexes to even put up his armor in time so Minato might not even need those toads here lol
Did I ever say he couldn't summon them? I said it would take time.

And Jiraiya taking long to summon Ma and Pa has nothing to do with preparing for sage mode. Amphibian Jutsu automatically turns Jiraiya into Sage Mode.
 

KGB Kakuzu

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Jul 20, 2012
Messages
12,448
Kin
0๐Ÿ’ธ
Kumi
0๐Ÿ’ด
Trait Points
0โš”๏ธ
Really???
I agree Kakuzu have chances but if Minato summons all the toads Kakuzu's scr**ed, I've seen Kakashi surviving/doging Kakuzu large scale elemental attacks. Gamabunta can jump freaking high and he also has water release techs as shown in fight Naruto vs Gaara, not only oil combined with fire. Ma and Pa's genjutsu doesn't count anymore??? Speed doesn't count anymore? Sealing jutsu doesn't count anymore???
Space time barrier, great defense with Minato speed defends him from large scale attacks, he doesn't need any other Kunai than the one in his hand to perform it, the location he may choose freely as shown in the manga when he was wondering where to send Kyuubi's TBB, also I'm pretty sure TBB is faster than Kakuzu's elemental attacks.
Kakuzu doesn't have enough power to hold his ground against three giant toads, Ma and Pa and Minato. Since you assume and state it's plausible for Kakuzu to shoot out all his tendrils in all directions, I will assume and say it's plausible that Minato's contract seal would deprive Kakuzu of the control over his masks/hearts. It's as much plausible, we haven't seen any of them doing any of those...
Kakuzu has chances, but if he's caught in frog's genjutsu he's as good as dead
Minato's speed comes from his Kunai....due to Kakuzu's AoE attacks, Minato's Kunai are destroyed or scattered to where they cannot be used to approach Kakuzu, but yes they provide an escape route. And yes his attacks can be dodged, but over the course of time, it is easily possible that he can be caught by them (as Kakashi was caught by Air Pressure Damage).

Summoning all of the toads take large scale chakara summons...during the Pain invasion, Ma Summoned Naruto and Pa, and Pa, who gathered up chakra, summoned only the three frogs (and even then took a large chakra consentration...and this took time as I recal).

Yes the Space Time Barrier is a great defense; however, the point is that if he has to stop to absorb the blast, he's left open from the sides for Kakuzu or his masks to attack.

Minato's contract seal was used to separate the Kyubi from Obito. As its name, the jutsu breaks a contract that has been made....Kakuzu has no contract with his masks so they cannot be sealed.

We have in fact seen Kakuzu using his tendrils in all directions. From his hands and from his back that can cover practically 360 degrees. Also his Earth Grudge Transformation showed him having Tendrils all around his body.

Finally, the Frog Song genjutsu takes precious time to build up as seen when Ma and Pa didn't immediately use it against Pain. Kakuzu isn't dumb enough to let people just sit there and build up. The Speed of the TBB to Kakuzu's elemental attacks are varied....Gidan and Air Pressure Damage appeared to be as fast or Faster....it was hard to see, but Cranium Carver appeared to be a rather slower, but still AoE jutsu.

Also, Gammabunta's Fire/Oil tech came from his Oil and Jiraiya's fire if I remember right.

The thing is that without knowledge of ftg kakuzu won't know when Minato is gonna come out from kunai. Even S rank ninja t Mintos time who knew what Minato is capabl of were told to flee on site. The reason for this is simple. Kakuzu won't be able to react fast as th speed of light. On top of this kakuzu doesn't know much about minato. Unless u can prove kakuzu has instant reflexes like killer beee.. kakuzu still gets marked by surprise.
At the same time, Kakuzu was able to survive Naruto's Rasenshuriken (though he was unable to move). Under this context, Kakuzu would likely survive a rasengan, and as such, could come up with a sneak attack while Minato's guard was down....exactly what happened to Kakashi.

Also, Kakuzu's hand seal for Domu was fast enough to where only Kakashi with his Sharingan could notice it. Now Minato's attack outside of his teleportation is virtually impossible to follow; however, between the throw of a Kunai, and its arrival by him, Kakuzu would have time to move. So I can't see him having no time in bringing up his armor.
 

Cornson

Active member
Regular
Joined
Mar 12, 2013
Messages
910
Kin
0๐Ÿ’ธ
Kumi
2,500๐Ÿ’ด
Trait Points
0โš”๏ธ
Nice thread =D

I would agree, if it weren't for one thing that I think would create a problem for Kakuzu, which is Minato's markings. Kakuzu has been shown to start out his match in close combat, where Minato would normally use a Rasengan, which, as you noted, could be countered with the Doton Domu. However, this creates a problem for Kakuzu, as this would mean that he'd be giving Minato an opening, which he would probably use to mark him, as he's been seen do against guys like Killer Bee and Obito, without them even noticing. If Minato gets a mark on him, Kakuzu wouldn't be able to counter it, since he wouldn't even know how it works. He wouldn't be expecting an attack out of the blue from Minato, which, IMO, would be his downfall in this match up.
I don't see how Kakuzu being marked is his downfall, I know that is usually the case when Minato mark someone, but as long as Minato don't hit one of Kakuzu's hearts, the attack will litterly have no effect...

and even if he manages to hit a heart, kakuzu still have 4 left, and after that happends Kakuzu simply must be able to put 2 and 2 together (the yellow flash attacked me instatly from behind when he was just infront of me. Conclusion he must have a space time ninjutzu) and really a Ninja that is so focuses about Bounties must have intel on Minato before he fight him, it have to be common knowledge, at least in the ranks of bounty hunters.

after that he can Domu up 100% so he can't take any damage from Minato or call all his masks back and go long range mode and start his elemental barrage, so this match just changes to can Minato keep dodging and or using his Space Time Barrier to get rid of the attacks he can't dodge, and sins Kakuzu don't use any chakra on his masks elemental attack it's pretty obvious where this match is going...

Minato using FGT to run back to Konoha...
 

MinatoFLASH

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Jul 28, 2011
Messages
2,996
Kin
0๐Ÿ’ธ
Kumi
0๐Ÿ’ด
Trait Points
0โš”๏ธ
Thanks for the compliment! And like I said, the point of this thread is more along the lines of Kakuzu having the capabilities to defeat Minato as opposed to Kakuzu beats Minato every time!

But yes the tags could be pretty deadly! At the same time, naturally Minato has to be careful as CQB is Kakuzu's forte! If he were to miss the tag placement or Kakuzu blocked his hand it could be game over.

kakuzu would get destroyed.. kakuzu wont be able to touch Minato. It doesnt matter if he misses tag placement or anything because he could instantly get away from anything at anytime. He has redicilous reflexes and base speed (this was shown when he caught Naruto a foot in the air and teleported him and even unwrapped his bombs all in seconds). Plus not even super fast opponents were able to avoid getting tagged (including fighters with s/t such as Obito still got tagged) so there's no way Kakuzu wont get tagged and once that happens it's game over. Minato also has Sage Mode and can use all the time he wants to activate it as he can teleport away from anywhere he has earlier marked instantly from any attack and come back.. kakuzu has nothing he can do to a person in SM. Minato also has tremendous base speed, intelligence, and with s/t barrier and summons there is no way kakuzu stands a chance in hurting Minato let alone killing him. Then there is genjutsu from ma/pa... Im not just saying this because I like Minato. I honestly see no way kakuzu can be a threat.
 

Gold Lightning

Active member
Elite
Joined
Jun 16, 2012
Messages
6,823
Kin
0๐Ÿ’ธ
Kumi
0๐Ÿ’ด
Trait Points
0โš”๏ธ
Considering Kakashi was able to evade all 3 hearts at once while dealing with Hidan at the same time says it all really. With Minatos speed he shouldn't have a problem using his body flicker and FTG to avoid everything that attacks him, should be even easier than Kakashi had it. Shadow clones is also a viable option to divide the work load, so if minato makes 3 clones, that's 1 for each heart and Kakuzu.

Food cart destroyer is a good way to put down each heart. I sincerely doubt Kakuzu can tank a barrage if rasengan. If minato spreads kunai around Kakuzus feet and then begins to appear and reappear constantly with a barrage of rasengan then I don't Kakuzu standing long. And what if it's a quick barrage of maybe 6-10 sage art rasengan? Pretty sure that will be enough to take down Kakuzu for good.

Shadow clone jutsu is Minato's best fried in this match up.
 
Last edited:
Top