Minato Vs Itachi

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The shield has no extension capacity to begin with. What you see in that scan is the Susanoo chakra shield

Susanno's chakra shield? what in the world are you talking about? that's susanno... the thing that was deflecting all of Sasuke's attacks... The shield was stated to change ALL of its attributes in defence of the attack..You do realize size and shape are attributes right?
 

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Yata mirror only protect from one side. It's not as if it would protect Itachi from an attack coming from above especially if it's unexpected. Gamabunta used by Minato was even able for a while, and like i've said, has a fire power capable (he says it himself):
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Itachi's Susanoo is much more smaller than 100% Kyubi who is roughly the same size as Madara's Perfect Susanoo. Itachi's final Susanoo is not handling the shit load Gamabunta could throw at him. Even if it doesn't crush it, at the very least, Itachi's Susanoo would be immobilised just like the Kyubi was
Yata changes shape to protect the user from attacks. It already extended above its head to block a Kunai Paper Bomb Tag combo so it will extend to block Bunta, and we already saw what happened to the Hydra's heads when they collided with the mirror. They bounced right off of it. Same with Sasuke when he tried to stab it with his sword.

Exactly like he did with the Kyubi:
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He teleported it without touching it, just by staying on top of Gamabunta. He can teleport something that is in contact with another one that he is in contact with, and he can even decide what to teleport since the Gamabunta he was in contact with wasn't even teleported. So by the time Gamabunta immobilises Susanoo while being above it, he can teleport Itachi outside his Susanoo at will since he has shown the capacity to do so
Bunta would bounce off of Yata anyway so this can't even happen as it requires for a toad to be able to restrain Susanoo via Food Cart Destroyer. Don't see why this would teleport Itachi out of Susanoo when it should just teleport Itachi and his Susanoo.
 

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Susanno's chakra shield? what in the world are you talking about? that's susanno... the thing that was deflecting all of Sasuke's attacks... The shield was stated to change ALL of its attributes in defence of the attack..You do realize size and shape are attributes right?
I edited. . The attribute you're referring to has nothing to do with size transformation. It talks about the way it counters other elements(raiton, katon, etc) by changing its properties in order to protect more efficiently
 

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I am afraid Itachi can take this. As I explained in an earlier thread, Minato's FTG is basically inscribed on a yellow paper. Minato throws his Kunais around and then Teleports. A Katon attack from Itachi can burn all Kunai in the adjacent area, completely eliminating the threat of close-range teleportation. Tags are made up of Chakra as well, hence any tag placed on the ground can be taken out with Katon attacks as well.

Itachi has shown incredible speed when he dodged KCM and Bee quite effortlessly, hence in close combat, he can easily take Minato on, whose base speed, logically, shouldn't be any where near FTG. 3T's slow-motion movement detection should be enough to facilitate the dodge. In close range, Minato is completely vulnerable to both Amaterasu and genjutsu, which can be cast with a finger as well.

If summons are brought into the battle field, then they will only cost Minato a lot of Chakra, as they can be put under genjutsu easily and turned against Minato to tilt the odds further in Itachi's favour. Amaterasu is an unknown factor to Minato. Even Obito could not react to it in time to Phase through, when according to Kakashi, his S/T jutsu is superior to Minato. This puts Amaterasu on a whole different threat level. If he looks into the eyes - reacting to the blood - in the 'what if he dodges it' scenario, then he's left completely open to Genjutsu and Amaterasu if he chooses to avoid them. It's a Two-fold Danger against an Uchiha.

Totsuka Blade will also prove to be highly threatening, as not only will it seal Minato's summons but it can hit Minato as well at base speed. Susano'o arms are shown to be fast enough as they could react to DSM Kabuto's speed and grab his snakes quite easily. A sword stab should be even quicker, as it's made in one direction after a set decision to strike a particular point.

Minato hence loses to a couple of factors, mostly genjutsu and his lack of repertoire to overwhelm Sharingan in general or Susano'o for that matter. Mid difference win for Itachi.

P.s: How are maa and paa included in toad contract by default? If that is so, then why was Jiraiya running all over the place to enter sage mode and summon them, when summoning them independently of SM would have potentially saved a lot of time, and his life as well? He could have used frog song well before Asura, Deva, and Naraka closed in on him and the whole fight would have been quite different. I call this speculation on this base's part. It's obvious that Maa and paa are linked with SM and cannot be brought to the battlefield otherwise. Even a lot of SM abilities involve trinity moves.
 

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I edited. . The attribute you're referring to has nothing to do with size transformation. It talks about the way it counters other elements(raiton, katon, etc) by changing its properties in order to protect more efficiently

Dude, once again, you clearly see Susanno is holding YATA MIRROR, which is the thing doing the extenstion in its liquid state.. it's not susanno's chakra that extended, it's the shield being held by susanno, which was yata mirror...Elements are only one attribute of the shield.. databook said ALLL
 

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Dude, once again, you clearly see Susanno is holding YATA MIRROR, which is the thing doing the extenstion in its liquid state.. it's not susanno's chakra that extended, it's the shield being held by susanno, which was yata mirror...Elements are only one attribute of the shield.. databook said ALLL
What you don't understand is that there is yata mirror AND there is Susanoo. Yata mirror alone can't protect Itachi efficiently. If so, why use Susanoo then? Susanoo covers the body when yata mirror offers a greater defense on the part where Itachi decides to direct it. But the explosive tags covered a wider range than the yata mirror. Because of this, beside the yata mirror, Itachi added a Susanoo chakra shield to protect himself more efficiently
 

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He didn't see the attack coming, if he did, kishi would have noted it somehow, whether it be a question mark over his head .. he simply continued talking and got caught of mid sentence, then completely changed what he was saying in response to the stab..



He didn't need to activate the shield's capabilities in that scan

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when this is how yata normally looks
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There was no

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Or
!?
Or a little white star like thing that shows shock

Or anything to suggest that Orochimaru was shocked. That combined with the fact that no one, or even the databook, has suggested Totsuka is some super fast sword, lends credibity to the fact that it is normal. There's also Kabuto expecting Nagato to dodge it. Will get to the Yata in a bit.
 

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What you don't understand is that there is yata mirror AND there is Susanoo. Yata mirror alone can't protect Itachi efficiently. If so, why use Susanoo then? Susanoo covers the body when yata mirror offers a greater defense on the part where Itachi decides to direct it. But the explosive tags covered a wider range than the yata mirror. Because of this, beside the yata mirror, Itachi added a Susanoo chakra shield to protect himself more efficiently

No, you're assuming that itachi used sussanno, when it's clear as day susanno is simply holding yata mirror which extended, not sussano, the excess isn't even attached to sussanno what soever. Yata mirror defended Itachi perfectly as ZETSU stated.. zetsu never said that it was susanno deflecting the attacks, it was Yata mirror


Or anything to suggest that Orochimaru was shocked. That combined with the fact that no one, or even the databook, has suggested Totsuka is some super fast sword, lends credibity to the fact that it is normal. There's also Kabuto expecting Nagato to dodge it. Will get to the Yata in a bit.

?? Uzumaki, Totsuka is a sword...of course it isn't fast as its speed is dependent on the person or thing holding it.. Susanno is the fast thing, lightning fast as seen in the danzo fights.. its power and strength makes the swings of the sword extremely fast.... And you do know the sword has only been used on two occasions, on both occasions the ninja has been sealed.. so where are you expecting to get statements of its speed?
 
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There was no

!
Or
?
Or
!?
Or a little white star like thing that shows shock

Or anything to suggest that Orochimaru was shocked. That combined with the fact that no one, or even the databook, has suggested Totsuka is some super fast sword, lends credibity to the fact that it is normal. There's also Kabuto expecting Nagato to dodge it. Will get to the Yata in a bit.
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Are you blind? You can clearly see the ? in the panel he gets stabbed. The fact that they added the dash there is fact that is sentence was interrupted by Totsuka's strike. Not to mention Susanoo's attacks are always generally fast.





 

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this is a cool fanmade manga where itachi fights with minato. here itachi wins because he avoids dead demon seal with izanagi but the part with izanagi is also fanmade, so if we exclude izanagi it would be a draw.
First, Itachi has the capacity to use Izanagi (though he may not know it.) Senju DNA merely perfects the Uchiha kinjutsu.

Secondly, Minato can't activate an S-rank jutsu if his chakra system is being controlled.

The reason the kai is used to break genjutsu is because it's so simple.

S-rank complexity isn't attainable. Ex. you won't see Orochimaru using Edo Tensei until after he breaks out.

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The video also has an imperfect understanding of Amaterasu, and Minato uses FRS...
 
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Good Point, however Amaterasu is a FIRE RELEASE Jutsu. So if he were to get attacked by it, he could just go into the water. Also you should point out that it takes time to kill someone with amaterasu. So it really just comes down to if there is water in the battlefield.
*Face-palm* You can't extinguish Amaterasu. Amaterasu NEVER goes away until it kills the target, or the user cancels it.
 
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This fight goes one of two ways. Either itachi one shots, or itachi dies. Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu will have to end minato for itachi, else minato will eat through him.

In the end, Itachi has a far better chance of beating minato than minato has of beating him. Minato wins high diff at best. Itachi wins mid-high.
Minato's best strategy is to be very quick. He either has to one shot itachi quickly before he figures about ftg, or he's liable of awakening a serious itachi who won't go down easily and who will have more potential of 1 shot.
 

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wasnt minato a sensor as well? couldnt he sense a blaze release heading towards him and just dodge out of the way? And what if minato starts the battle off by simply speed blitzing around itachi placing kunai all around the battle field as he teleports from one tag to the next. essentially zapping around and around the battlefield continuously so itachi cant get a read on him and striking using a mixture of his base speed to go across the battlefield to stike and tag itachi and then zapping away again. Minato musthave known how dangerous uchiha genjutsu are so if I were him this would be the strat I would use. It pretty much makes him immune to any sort of attack
 

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wasnt minato a sensor as well? couldnt he sense a blaze release heading towards him and just dodge out of the way? And what if minato starts the battle off by simply speed blitzing around itachi placing kunai all around the battle field as he teleports from one tag to the next. essentially zapping around and around the battlefield continuously so itachi cant get a read on him and striking using a mixture of his base speed to go across the battlefield to stike and tag itachi and then zapping away again. Minato musthave known how dangerous uchiha genjutsu are so if I were him this would be the strat I would use. It pretty much makes him immune to any sort of attack
Minato has no sensing feats in this manga
 
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