Minato vs Ay

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This is a real fight between Minato and Ay. The only feat that the 4th Hokage did that was impressive against Ay was dodging his top-speed punch, but he never physically hurt Ay.

Scenario 2: 3T Kakashi comes to help Ay.
 
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Minato stomps, just like he would have in the manga had Killer B not saved him.
 

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Minato has already proven to be much faster in terms of reflexes and speed - thanks to Hiraishin - which were E's basic techniques in battles. While Minato can summon Fukasaku and Shima, he can trap him in illusion (e.g. Magen: Gama Rinshō), wear him off of his Raiton shroud and kill him with Senpō: Rasengan. Neji won't help him either in the second scenario.
 

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^^^^Ridiculous

OT: The fight could go either way, but I'd give it to Minato. Ay would eventually lose his cool after Minato causally avoids his strikes with ftg.
 

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^^^^Ridiculous

OT: The fight could go either way, but I'd give it to Minato. Ay would eventually lose his cool after Minato causally avoids his strikes with ftg.

Are you telling me that E wouldn't be affected by Magen: Gama Rinshō?
 

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Minato still wins in the second scenario, with ease.
 

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Are you telling me that E wouldn't be affected by Magen: Gama Rinshō?

That wasn't directed towards your post, you just so happened submit it before mine appeared. However, to address your post, it's debatable as to whether could summon Ma&Pa. There are instances in which they have no idea who Minato was in series. Also, it's special ritual to summon them, so it's not certain he could perform this.

But of course others would disagree for whatever reason.
 

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^^^^Ridiculous

OT: The fight could go either way, but I'd give it to Minato. Ay would eventually lose his cool after Minato causally avoids his strikes with ftg.

What's ridiculous is the bold even though the manga showed Minato shitting all over Ay. Even though the manga showed Killer B saving Ay. Even though the manga shows Ay wanking off to Minato.
 

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That wasn't directed towards your post, you just so happened submit it before mine appeared. However, to address your post, it's debatable as to whether could summon Ma&Pa. There are instances in which they have no idea who Minato was in series. Also, it's special ritual to summon them, so it's not certain he could perform this.

But of course others would disagree for whatever reason.

Oh, I see. However, they did know him [ ], and he has HM. So I believe he does.
 

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What's ridiculous is the bold even though the manga showed Minato shitting all over Ay. Even though the manga showed Killer B saving Ay. Even though the manga shows Ay wanking off to Minato.

The manga simply showed Minato dodging Ay's strike with ftg. Ay had no prior knowledge of Minato's jutsu and entered the fight carelessly. After falling victim to ftg, he quickly analyzed Minato's strategy (ftg).

I swear people overact to any basic encounter :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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Oh, I see. However, they did know him [ ], and he has HM. So I believe he does.

True. The issue emerged here

They seemed to have no memory of Minato before. So, it made me question whether he actually could summon them. Minato stated he never really practiced Sage Art, so it's questionable IMO
 

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The manga simply showed Minato dodging Ay's strike with ftg. Ay had no prior knowledge of Minato's jutsu and entered the fight carelessly. After falling victim to ftg, he quickly analyzed Minato's strategy (ftg).

I swear people overact anything :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Come on now....


A fodder knew that the paper on the Kunai was the marking for Hiraishin, and he said it aloud. Minato was famous for his jutsu. Don't try and tell me that a fodder knew how it worked yet Ay, the leader (I think) of that squad didn't.

The manga showed Ay getting dodged, then Minato got his back, which would have been GG if B didn't save him.
 

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True. The issue emerged here

They seemed to have no memory of Minato before. So, it made me question whether he actually could summon them. Minato stated he never really practiced Sage Art, so it's questionable IMO

This just means that they didn't know Minato was Jiraiya's student, it doesn't mean that they don't know him.
How does Pa not know Minato when his name is written on the ?
 

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Come on now....


A fodder knew that the paper on the Kunai was the marking for Hiraishin, and he said it aloud. Minato was famous for his jutsu. Don't try and tell me that a fodder knew how it worked yet Ay, the leader (I think) of that squad didn't.

The manga showed Ay getting dodged, then Minato got his back, which would have been GG if B didn't save him.

Irrelevant.

Fodder and rumors=/Ay, who clearly had to analyze the situation afterwards


So, no matter how you want to play it, Ay reacted carelessly in situation where he knew little about his opponent. Nothing more, nothing less.
 

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This just means that they didn't know Minato was Jiraiya's student, it doesn't mean that they don't know him.
How does Pa not know Minato when his name is written on the ?

I said there were instances in which they didn't, never said they never acknowledged him in the series. His name being part of the Toad summoning contact doesn't mean he had interaction with them directly. Them having no knowledge of Minato being Jman's student is unlikely.
 

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True. The issue emerged here

They seemed to have no memory of Minato before. So, it made me question whether he actually could summon them. Minato stated he never really practiced Sage Art, so it's questionable IMO

Hm, true... a contradiction.​

This just means that they didn't know Minato was Jiraiya's student, it doesn't mean that they don't know him.
How does Pa not know Minato when his name is written on the ?

They didn't know of Naruto either at that time.​
 

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Stop overrating Minato, Minato can only win if he's able to put a seal on E.

 

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Irrelevant.

Fodder and rumors=/Ay, who clearly had to analyze the situation afterwards


So, no matter how you want to play it, Ay reacted carelessly in situation where he knew little about his opponent. Nothing more, nothing less.

One man in the squad knowing it means they all received info on it. Period. Ay even responds to the fodder who said that with "Ah, so its him", yet Ay had no idea about the Yellow Flash or his jutsu amirite? :rolleyes: If you are going to argue that one man in Ay's own squad knew of Hiraishin but Ay didn't, then you shouldn't even be taken seriously at this point.

Ay analyzing the situation=/=Ay not knowing about Hiraishin. Ay went for a straightforward attack and failed because Minato was fast enough to teleport before Ay hit him. So he switched his plan. He'd attack Minato and only use Shunshin when he teleported to another marker.

Minato already evaded Ay's top speed. Knowledge isn't going to change that.



Stop overrating Minato, Minato can only win if he's able to put a seal on E.





Switch that Kunai with a Rasengan and not only is Ay going to take damage,

Ay winning this or even standing a chance is nothing but wank. No one is overrating Minato here, manga has already given us the answer to this match up.
 
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