Minato vs 3rd Hokage(prime)

[Reborn]

However, the is no evidence that proves Hiruzen couldn't handle himself. There isn't any to prove he can, but their isn't anything that proves he doesn't.

I'm not voting for Hiruzen against Minato, I gave my vote to both in the polls, because I personally hold all the Hokage on equal terms with each other. I hold myself as a Minato fan (around my 3rd or 4th favorite character) but this is just what I believe...circumstances equal for the two parties (or any Hokage vs Hokage) and it comes down to luck, as I hold each Kage's skills valuable and none are perticurally above the other (maybe in some feilds but each Kage has a feild they specialize in that the others don't which could be used to their advantage)

 

[MinatoFLASH]

However, the is no evidence that proves Hiruzen couldn't handle himself. There isn't any to prove he can, but their isn't anything that proves he doesn't.

I'm not voting for Hiruzen against Minato, I gave my vote to both in the polls, because I personally hold all the Hokage on equal terms with each other. I hold myself as a Minato fan (around my 3rd or 4th favorite character) but this is just what I believe...circumstances equal for the two parties (or any Hokage vs Hokage) and it comes down to luck, as I hold each Kage's skills valuable and none are perticurally above the other (maybe in some feilds but each Kage has a feild they specialize in that the others don't which could be used to their advantage)

Yes they are all great but its true that some are superior to others in power. And yes they are great in their own ways. Tsunade may not be that powerful but a great healer, 3rd is strong and experienced, Hashi is a chakra freak with incredible powers, 2nd is very strong and great chakra, Minato is very powerful, intelligent, and Insanely fast. But since there was nothing shown (that cud take own ftg) in the 3rd's full attempt to kill Oro, and they didn't mention 3rd had anything that we know cud counter ftg even in his prime so I say Minato but the 3rd is great indeed if Oro didn't use edo tensei and 3rd was in his prime, i believe Oro with all of his powers wud still lose.

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

I say more info...

 

[DarkClaw]

Idk but Hiruzen wasnt called God of shinobi without a reason , and Minato defeated many strong opponents , so by feats Hiruzen beats Minato , But the real battle it will probably be a draw

 

[Reborn]

Yes they are all great but its true that some are superior to others in power. And yes they are great in their own ways. Tsunade may not be that powerful but a great healer, 3rd is strong and experienced, Hashi is a chakra freak with incredible powers, 2nd is very strong and great chakra, Minato is very powerful, intelligent, and Insanely fast. But since there was nothing shown (that cud take own ftg) in the 3rd's full attempt to kill Oro, and they didn't mention 3rd had anything that we know cud counter ftg even in his prime so I say Minato but the 3rd is great indeed if Oro didn't use edo tensei and 3rd was in his prime, i believe Oro with all of his powers wud still lose.

I'm not downing your opinion. I was actually speaking on this topic (a similar one) on another thread in the discussion section. Hiruzen was past his prime, which could be some sort of indication of his incapability of preforming some techniques (an example was his lack of chakra to make several clones to assist him against Hashi, Tobi and Oro).

What I said back on that thread about Hiruzen's prime not being explored as much as Minato and Hashirama's (at the moment) is the relivence to the story. I'll make a brief summery of what I said back there.

Historians study texts and other aspects of the past and they decide what is significant to place into history text books. They are not simply people who regurgitate facts about the past, they take what is key to the development, rise, fall, recreation, creation of societies and place them in there. Now think of Kishi's role in here...yes he's the creator of the story...he's already made and developed his story's history and important features...now he must decide what is crucial to displaying those features in the story. Now look at Minato's relivence to the main story, and then look at Hiruzen's. Minato=savior of Konoha, child of prophecy (believed to be), the shinobi who sealed the Kyuubi inside his son who is the protagonist, a person who has impacted the world of shinobi to a great extent, which has lead up to many events taking place now...Hiruzen was the third Hokage...that's really it actually. In the first season he was the former teacher of the Orochimaru, the main antagonist at that time, and he was displayed as the teacher of the Sannin, who are more relivent then he actually is. Hiruzen's role in the story is done, which explains why we haven't seen anymore of him past Oro's fight

Hiruzen's relivence to the story isn't major, which is why Kishi (the historian) has not emphisized more then he already has on this man...however that doesn't mean he is or isn't capable of winning against Minato...it's a mere lack of evidence that we have, so we can't make those radical conclusions. I respect your belief in Minato being the best, I have a bias towards Minato myself over Hiruzen (Minato being my 4th fav character and Hiruzen not really placing in my list but I do like him) but I just see an equal terms before all the Hokage (yes even Tsunade E-cup no jutsu...Hiruzen and Minato are still men...however, If Hashi and Tobi looked at their grandaughter or grandneice in that way....we may have to worryxdxd jk) Anyway, you see where I'm going with this right?

 

[ganjababy]

People keep telling me that 3rd wud def beat Minato and I don't agree. U can say I am a fanboy or whatever, i know I am not and i actually have proof on how Minato cud beat Hiruzen.

Read plz

Ok well listen. People were told to run away when they saw Minato, even if they were kage lvl ninja, they were told to not even try to fight. Why??? When the 3rd was a ninja his opponents were not told to run away, plus show me where Kishi states that 3rd is stronger than Minato. Just link me to it. I can show u where Minato was praised and praised, he was shown even before the main character, he was the most powerful kage and i am not saying this because of hype or anything like that. If u think about it, Minato cud just spam ftg and dodge all of 3rd's attacks, we have seen 3rd fight. Granted in his prime those attacks may have been stronger and faster and he may have much more chakra as well, but it won't help if he can't hit Minato! I gave a logical reasoning on y Minato wud win and if ur still calling me a fanboy, thats just straight up nonsense.

Now who wud win??

Minato- Very talented, genius, very powerful, incredible speed, FTG, many rasengans, summonings, SM (the toad said Naruto surpassed those who came before him in SM and a pic came of Minato and J-man), FTG lvl 2, seals, etc, etc, etc!

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Hiruzen- Very strong, experienced, great chakra, many jutsu, has a summon, and much more overall attacks and defense, etc.

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man don't listen to these retards when they say 3rd hokage is strongest in his prime, he cant do nothing, and he is was never the strongest in any era, cause im sure if you look at the other kages and see their abilities and compare it to his any one of them will rape him inside out

 

[MinatoFLASH]

I'm not downing your opinion. I was actually speaking on this topic (a similar one) on another thread in the discussion section. Hiruzen was past his prime, which could be some sort of indication of his incapability of preforming some techniques (an example was his lack of chakra to make several clones to assist him against Hashi, Tobi and Oro).

What I said back on that thread about Hiruzen's prime not being explored as much as Minato and Hashirama's (at the moment) is the relivence to the story. I'll make a brief summery of what I said back there.

Historians study texts and other aspects of the past and they decide what is significant to place into history text books. They are not simply people who regurgitate facts about the past, they take what is key to the development, rise, fall, recreation, creation of societies and place them in there. Now think of Kishi's role in here...yes he's the creator of the story...he's already made and developed his story's history and important features...now he must decide what is crucial to displaying those features in the story. Now look at Minato's relivence to the main story, and then look at Hiruzen's. Minato=savior of Konoha, child of prophecy (believed to be), the shinobi who sealed the Kyuubi inside his son who is the protagonist, a person who has impacted the world of shinobi to a great extent, which has lead up to many events taking place now...Hiruzen was the third Hokage...that's really it actually. In the first season he was the former teacher of the Orochimaru, the main antagonist at that time, and he was displayed as the teacher of the Sannin, who are more relivent then he actually is. Hiruzen's role in the story is done, which explains why we haven't seen anymore of him past Oro's fight

Hiruzen's relivence to the story isn't major, which is why Kishi (the historian) has not emphisized more then he already has on this man...however that doesn't mean he is or isn't capable of winning against Minato...it's a mere lack of evidence that we have, so we can't make those radical conclusions. I respect your belief in Minato being the best, I have a bias towards Minato myself over Hiruzen (Minato being my 4th fav character and Hiruzen not really placing in my list but I do like him) but I just see an equal terms before all the Hokage (yes even Tsunade E-cup no jutsu...Hiruzen and Minato are still men...however, If Hashi and Tobi looked at their grandaughter or grandneice in that way....we may have to worryxdxd jk) Anyway, you see where I'm going with this right?

Ya lol 2nd and 1st won't be effected or u never know lol but Tsunade is powerful in her own ways. I do believe though that as u said Hiruzen's role is done, before Hiruzen's role was done i do believe Kishi showed us pretty much all of his powers, he even included that as u said his abilities to use his powers were def better in his prime, leading us to believe he was a very strong kage. But I do think that ftg wud be able to take the 3rd, however I am not underrating 3rd, just saying that ftg wud put him under a great disadvantage. And u may call me a fanboy but i do in fact believe Minato was the most powerful kage so far, and is more powerful than any kage right now until maybe Naruto becomes hokage. Minato was a powerful character and is supposed to be a major character and this just adds to my reasons for believing Minato was most powerful kage. However ppl with the Rinnegan might beat him. And others have good chances and hes def not the most powerful character.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

man don't listen to these retards when they say 3rd hokage is strongest in his prime, he cant do nothing, and he is was never the strongest in any era, cause im sure if you look at the other kages and see their abilities and compare it to his any one of them will rape him inside out

LOL dude this was funny yet aggressive rep +

 

[Red Slayer]

Minato would win

 

[devojoyti halder]

This is really a Minato fanboys infected thread.O.O
Ok, i am not going to decide without any reason.

Hiruzen Sarutobi-hails from sarutobi clan, a clan known for their efficiency in mastering any jutsu. Has a very huge combat experience. Student of 1st hokage and 2nd hokage. Has personal summon monkey king enma. known as the god of shinobi. proficient in fire and earth jutsu(must be more). Said to be mastered every jutsu of the hidden leaf(i doubt so). Was able to become hokage for two generations, means there were few(or no) people who were stronger than him. Was able to handle 1st and 2nd hokage and orochimaru on his own, in his weak and old age.
Note: some people say that third made minato hokage because minato was stronger than him, this is not so, if it is it, then tsunade must make naruto hokage now. actually third was quite old and wanted to retire, hence choosed the strongest and most responsible shinobi of that time, minato.

Minato Namizake- Known as konoha's yellow flash. was feared by other countries and said to flee at his sight. Was very fast, when with FTG. he had summon toad boss gamabunta. was able to stop madara with his incredible fighting skills, was able to take down 100s of shinobi at a time at once. knew many types of funjutsu.
Note: some fanboys think that minato is invincible with FTG, and can teleport anywhere like madara. this is not so, he can only use ftg where he had his space time kunai tagged, not everywhere. so in using ftg, first he have to tag anyone or anyplace with kunai, then go there.



Looking at all of the stats, hiruzen is looking stronger, so i conclude that hiruzen(third hokage) will win.
And now minato fanboys, dont flame over me, it is totally judged.

 

[Blaze Release]

Funny how youve basically repeated the same thing over and over again with minato. Example you say speed, then you add ftg and ftg v2, which is basically speed. Also you said very latented and a genius which also basically the same thing.

You say different forms of rasengan. Lol he can only use the normal rasengan. Its naruto who has different forms of rasengan. You said he had seals, but didnt add that to sarutobi's who obviously can also use seals.

Anyway the only thing minato has over sarutobi is his speed, apart from that sarutobi is better. Due to this sarutobi will wipe the floor with minato.

Minato is so stupidly overrated its not funny anymore

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Hiruzen,
the man was named God of all Shinobi, the same as the SOSP. Plus Minato is verry over hyped by all of his fanboys whereas Hiruzen has no fanboys so theres know one to back him up. Iruka and several other ninja have stated that Hiruzen has been the strongest kage. If you want a link go find it urself becuase I cant be bothered to find one. I am not a fanboy for anyone really. Even my favourite character Second Mizukage I admit hes not the strongest and will lose lots of battles. Hiruzen fought of 1st, 2nd asnd Oro. I think his reflexes will be alot better in his prime.

 

[Veritas]

it would be a great fight but Minato in my opinion, but minato most likely would win! his speed is unmatched

 

[Baka Sennin]

it's a very balanced match, but i think hiruzen would win. i see no reason to believe he couldn't at least anticipate minato in speed at his prime, his speed, strength and esp stamina took a huge toll from being old, yet he was still able to beat the prime kage in taijutsu, and mark them much like minato does with seals. also, he has that shuriken technique so he's able to deflect kunai away from himself in theory, stopping minato from teleporting near him. although ftg is an annoying jutsu to argue against

 

[-Vegeta-]

Idk but Hiruzen wasnt called God of shinobi without a reason , and Minato defeated many strong opponents , so by feats Hiruzen beats Minato , But the real battle it will probably be a draw

How does Hiruzen beat Minato by feats? Hiruzen in his prime has no feats.

 

[-Vegeta-]

Funny how youve basically repeated the same thing over and over again with minato. Example you say speed, then you add ftg and ftg v2, which is basically speed. Also you said very latented and a genius which also basically the same thing.

You say different forms of rasengan. Lol he can only use the normal rasengan. Its naruto who has different forms of rasengan. You said he had seals, but didnt add that to sarutobi's who obviously can also use seals.

Anyway the only thing minato has over sarutobi is his speed, apart from that sarutobi is better. Due to this sarutobi will wipe the floor with minato.

Minato is so stupidly overrated its not funny anymore

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Hiruzen,
the man was named God of all Shinobi, the same as the SOSP. Plus Minato is verry over hyped by all of his fanboys whereas Hiruzen has no fanboys so theres know one to back him up. Iruka and several other ninja have stated that Hiruzen has been the strongest kage. If you want a link go find it urself becuase I cant be bothered to find one. I am not a fanboy for anyone really. Even my favourite character Second Mizukage I admit hes not the strongest and will lose lots of battles. Hiruzen fought of 1st, 2nd asnd Oro. I think his reflexes will be alot better in his prime.

Iruka is the only one who said that Hiruzen was the strongest hokage. Kabuto said that Hiruzen was the strongest of the 5 kage. Plus if you want to play the this guy said he's the strongest game than fine. Jiraiya said Minato was the greatest shinobi konoha ever produced. The 4th raikage said Minato was unsurpassable. The point being kishi likes to contradict himself.

 

[Etemon]

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Iruka is the only one who said that Hiruzen was the strongest hokage. Kabuto said that Hiruzen was the strongest of the 5 kage. Plus if you want to play the this guy said he's the strongest game than fine. Jiraiya said Minato was the greatest shinobi konoha ever produced. The 4th raikage said Minato was unsurpassable. The point being kishi likes to contradict himself.

You proved a great point there But from what was shown id say the third would win. At his old age he defeated the first 2nd and almost oro. If he was at his prime he would destroy them all. It would be a great fight to watch tho.

 

[~MC117~]

I don't which one to choose but I think minato would win.

 

[JJR]

Some ppl most be saying: Why are u making me chose??? :T_T:

But even if Minato is faster and will probably will be more effective in a hand to hand combat. The 3rd Hokage has more experience overall.

............ puñeta! I will say the .3rd Hokage :shrug:

 

[MinatoFLASH]

Funny how youve basically repeated the same thing over and over again with minato. Example you say speed, then you add ftg and ftg v2, which is basically speed. Also you said very latented and a genius which also basically the same thing.

You say different forms of rasengan. Lol he can only use the normal rasengan. Its naruto who has different forms of rasengan. You said he had seals, but didnt add that to sarutobi's who obviously can also use seals.

Anyway the only thing minato has over sarutobi is his speed, apart from that sarutobi is better. Due to this sarutobi will wipe the floor with minato.

Minato is so stupidly overrated its not funny anymore

FTG lvl 1 is different speed from from lvl 2, and so is base speed. And also very talented is very different from genius. Talented= Person with skills
Genius= A person with intelligence

They are 2 different things. Shika may be a genius but he is not talented. Minato can use much more than normal rasengan, even J-man can use giant flaming rasengans and he learned it from Minato. I am not saying Minato cud do rasenshuriken but still powerful rasengans for sure. Also seals?? Minato is obviously better than the 3rd, even the 3rd learned some seals from him like the reaper seal. Ur post was very biased. I can say something like you too. Minato has skills, speed, and intelligence over 3rd, all 3rd has is experience