If the manga does not CATORGORICALLY state that Minato was a sage then he was not! END OF! And i agree that pa toad would have mentioned minato whilst naruto was training! I also find it hilarious that ppl think that just becoz jiraiya had sage mode that minato would! If that is tru then tell me this why does'nt Kakashi have the flying thunder god technique!
The 4th and Jiraiya images were from Tsunades pov and what she sees as the resemblance between his father and godfather. Pa was talking directly about those who have attempted the Senjutsu arts before so it's really just a coincidence. I agree with everyone whose about Minato not having it. Pa would have made the slightest mention about it since Minato's training would have had to been just as recent considering how old he is.
I voted for Madara. Minato seemed to indicate that even with his FTG, he couldn't get around or surprise Madara and his phasing technique. Actually I wouldn't really give it to Madara and just say neither because he has the power to kill most characters yet he doesn't and keeps referring himself as weaken.
Alot Of People Dont Mention Alot About The 4th Like When Kakashi Said He Try'd Addin His Element To Rasengan But Neva Said Which Element Whats So Hard About Saying His Element???And Coincidence About He Surpass The Generation Before Him And A Pic Of Jiariya And The 4th Came WhY Was'nt Kakashi Or The 3rd In that Pic???
No Possible Way Minato Could Have Been A Sage Lmao??? Who Else Do You Know Who Took Out The Kyuubi In A Fight All 9 Tails Without A Sharigan ?? Naruto Is A Sage And Cant Even Control The Kyuubi But The 4th Seal It Back Up Like Nothing He's Way More Talented Then Naruto
I am going to sit on the side lines for this one until like a minato gaiden. It seems that kishi has never shown him with the sage eyes or sage mode. So until kishi says its still speculation. Its possible but as previous people have pointed out when naruto was in sage training they only mentioned the j-man. Which I would think it was important to mention his dad was a sage. It would be cool though. Would be a ultra powered hokage. But Minato vs Tobi. Minato even said himself that he couldn't land a hit. So even if he was a sage that might not have helped. History of how it all went down it appears it didn't help since he had seal the 9 tails anyways.
minato probably did learn sage mode maybe the reason he doesnt use it (if he did learn sage mode) coz its not perfect or complete...like jiraiya he still has frog image when he turned into sage mode... kinda like the rasengan concept its not complete until naruto learned it..thats why he surpassed jiraiya and minato he is the only one who completed thre jutsu...
BTW minato sage mode will kick madara or tobis ass but not kill him probably seal him...
Yep Uzican, i assume jiraya had the record at this third line generation due to the fact pa use jiraya to meassure narutos sage mode (sorry for not writting third line gen but didnt think anyone would care about those before the people in the manga).
Now if yellow flash had sage mode and was near jiraya or pass jiraya, wouldnt pa use him to compare?
I base my teory on whats written instead of whats not written, or else the fantasy would run wild. Anyway its up to you to belive what you want, wont argue pass this since its rather meaningless..
We know. Soo lil about the 4 hokage. .... there is a 50/50 chance of him been a sage but if his not and he did not follow the sage path that means that he has a. Better. blood line limit ((I think that how u said ) and. Thas. Naruto next. Powers
I really doubt Minato was a Sage. Just because he and Naruto had the same overcoat thingy doesn't mean anything. Jiraiya was a Sage and he never had it. Jiraiya was only taught Senjutsu because he was the child of prophecy that stumbled onto Myoubokuzan accidentally. Naruto was trained because Fukasaku realized Naruto was Jiraiya's pupil that would fulfill the prophecy to bring peace to the world. Minato was really just another guy that Jiraiya happened to train. Minato probably never even went to Myoubokuzan. He just signed the summoning contract and befriended Gamabunta and thats all.
Alot Of People Dont Mention Alot About The 4th Like When Kakashi Said He Try'd Addin His Element To Rasengan But Neva Said Which Element Whats So Hard About Saying His Element???And Coincidence About He Surpass The Generation Before Him And A Pic Of Jiariya And The 4th Came WhY Was'nt Kakashi Or The 3rd In that Pic???
Wasn't relevant. During Sage training, Jiraiya's training and those who trained/tried before were mentioned on numerous times. Well the obvious one is because having the backs of 4 people wouldn't fit. Tsunade talked about those who came before her a couple pages back and Minato/Jiraiya are dead. Naruto with his cloak and headband from the back is similar to his father and the bond between her and Jiraiya with him and Naruto makes more sense to be included. Pa's comment were just his thoughts.
I really doubt Minato was a Sage. Just because he and Naruto had the same overcoat thingy doesn't mean anything. Jiraiya was a Sage and he never had it. Jiraiya was only taught Senjutsu because he was the child of prophecy that stumbled onto Myoubokuzan accidentally. Naruto was trained because Fukasaku realized Naruto was Jiraiya's pupil that would fulfill the prophecy to bring peace to the world. Minato was really just another guy that Jiraiya happened to train. Minato probably never even went to Myoubokuzan. He just signed the summoning contract and befriended Gamabunta and thats all.
Lmao Jiraiya Wasnt The Child Of Prophecy Naruto & Nagato Was.
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Minato Was Not Just Another Pupil He's Ten Times Better Then Naruto I Dont Believe He Was Just Another Person Who Trained Under Him Pa Sage Could'nt Even Fuse With Naruto Because Of The Nine Tail Fox Right So Where Am I Leading Too??
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But Still The 4th Got To Penetrate Naruto Mind State Even When Naruto When Up To 8 Tails And Frog Pa Could'nt Even Get Threw When The Nine Tail Was'nt Even Active
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Naruto Does'nt Even Have Faith In His Own Self He Was About To Give In To Pein If It Wasnt For The 4th And Frog Pa Even Said It His Self Only Does With Guts And Neva To Give Up Can Become A Sage
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Ok If Gamabunta Was About The Only Toad He Knew Then Why Does Gerotora Have The Scroll And Why Was Introduce With Frog Pa So The Connection Must be Much Closer Then You Think
Wasn't relevant. During Sage training, Jiraiya's training and those who trained/tried before were mentioned on numerous times. Well the obvious one is because having the backs of 4 people wouldn't fit. Tsunade talked about those who came before her a couple pages back and Minato/Jiraiya are dead. Naruto with his cloak and headband from the back is similar to his father and the bond between her and Jiraiya with him and Naruto makes more sense to be included. Pa's comment were just his thoughts.
We All Know Minato And Jiaraiya Are Dead It Was'nt Mentioned Alot About Other Sages In Training Only A Few Times. A Wide Page Like That I Dont Believe He Could'nt Put More Then 3 People On The Page.
Naruto with his cloak and headband from the back is similar to his father and the bond between her and Jiraiya with him and Naruto makes more sense to be included. Pa's comment were just his thoughts.
Her And The J Man Relationship ??? Like Imma Say Again Why Not Throw Kakashi And The 3rd She Has A Good Relationship With Them Also
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Even Pein Could'nt Subdue The Nine Tails And He's A Rinnegan User The Sage Of The Six Path Had No Problem Control All Nine Beast And He Had The Rinnegan But Minato Had Him In The Palm Of His Hand And He Did'nt Even Have Time Cause His Chakra Was Fading
I Find It Hard To Believe The Main Moves That Made Minato So Feared Was Only A Rasengan ,Flying Thunder God, And Summoning Jutsu He Was Extremly Skilled Even The 3rd Hokage Wish That The 4th Was Alive To Handle Orochimaru For Him The Man Who Defeated The 1st And 2nd Hokage In Battle I Put Money On Minato That He Did Have Sage Mode And Brought It To A Second Level Knowing How Kishi Like Jacking From Dragon Ball Z Wink Wink Lol All Because He Was'nt Mentioned In The Sage Training Does'nt Mean Anything Why Was'nt Gerotora Mentioned About Holding The Kyuubi Key To Naruto???? We All Know The Deal About Minato
We All Know Minato And Jiaraiya Are Dead It Was'nt Mentioned Alot About Other Sages In Training Only A Few Times. A Wide Page Like That I Dont Believe He Could'nt Put More Then 3 People On The Page.
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Her And The J Man Relationship ??? Like Imma Say Again Why Not Throw Kakashi And The 3rd She Has A Good Relationship With Them Also
Yeah and like we've said, Minato would've been mentioned. Not really. Another person would've cluttered up that panel. Naruto is between them and a third person would've been directly behind Naruto and just not look right. But it's obvious why those 2 were picked and why they don't relate to Pa's after comment about the previous sage generations. The connection and resemblance to Minato with the cloak, hairstyle, bandana and bloodline from the back angle was to similar for Tsunade not to notice. She's also still upset about Jiraiya's death and could see the courage and spirit of him to protect the closest one to them that's also common with Naruto. Also Pain killed Jiraiya so it's makes more sense to include him. Certainly more appropriate then including Kakashi and Hiruzen.
I think Minato has SM, because it was never mentioned if he did or did not. The reason Pa frog did not mention him could be because it wasn't relevant, he compared him to Jiraiya because that was Naruto's teacher/father figure.
I do not think he could beat tobi because he is basically invunerable, on the otherhand I feel he could beat Madara because Madara haa a physical body and the Sharingan would not help because not even the Rinnegan could beat Naruto.
Minato was never confirmed a sage in the manga or the anime in fact the evidence speaks against it. Pa stated that Naruto was the only one to complete sage mode and that Jiraiya had only touched the surface hence the frog like stature.Pa spoke of "those" becaus he knew who those people were in Minato and Jiraiya whom Pa trained and he said that Naruto surpassed them, most likely in terms of sinjutsu training. Minato probably had more techs and jutsu than we know of thus far but sage mode has yet to be one of them.
Minato would defeat Madara but struggle with him as he had before, even though Minato stated that Madara seen through his moves I still think he handed Madara defeat by sealing the fox and thwarting Madara's plans to destroy Knonoha. Madara just isn't cut out for the leaf village and will never be able to destroy Konoha.
Not sying that Madara is a pussball but he was weak than and still is now according to his own words, Madara said that after fighting the 1st Hokage he is only a mere shell of himself so we gotta go wit whats real ya dig. Madara would probably loose still even with all his powers. Were talking about the 4th Hokage, Yondaime, Minato Namikaze the most powerfull Hokage to date no one is $#@@$#@ wit him.
Minato was never confirmed a sage in the manga or the anime in fact the evidence speaks against it. Pa stated that Naruto was the only one to complete sage mode and that Jiraiya had only touched the surface hence the frog like stature.Pa spoke of "those" becaus he knew who those people were in Minato and Jiraiya whom Pa trained and he said that Naruto surpassed them, most likely in terms of sinjutsu training. Minato probably had more techs and jutsu than we know of thus far but sage mode has yet to be one of them.
Minato would defeat Madara but struggle with him as he had before, even though Minato stated that Madara seen through his moves I still think he handed Madara defeat by sealing the fox and thwarting Madara's plans to destroy Knonoha. Madara just isn't cut out for the leaf village and will never be able to destroy Konoha.
Not sying that Madara is a pussball but he was weak than and still is now according to his own words, Madara said that after fighting the 1st Hokage he is only a mere shell of himself so we gotta go wit whats real ya dig. Madara would probably loose still even with all his powers. Were talking about the 4th Hokage, Yondaime, Minato Namikaze the most powerfull Hokage to date no one is $#@@$#@ wit him.
Yeah It Neva Said He Was The Only One Who Completed The Sage Training He Stated He A Better Sage Then Jiraiya
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Lmao This Thread Is Hilarious First You Got The Other One Saying Jiraiya Is The Child Of Prophecy And Now Naruto Is The Only One To Complete Sage Mode So I Guess The Sage Of The Six Path Does'nt Count huh Lmao Does Anyone Wanna Add Another Un True Fact To The Thread Lmao
