People are pissed for no reason, it's common sense to expect that Minato would have SM, Jiraiya is his Sensei, it wasn't revealed earlier because he was relevant to the plot later on, plus if Minato was mentioned, it'd be a spoiler? Is that hard to understand? Only people who have problems with character development are the ones who take this shit extremely too serious.
[Discussion] Minato sage mode explained
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RikudouMadara
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This seems to me....to be the best explanation so far, that I've seen. I'll agree with this....
I think you're using the phrase "common sense" a bit librally here, but that aside... Minato was mentioned many times in the manga even before shippuden, how can you say he wasn't relevant to the story at that time? If you think that Kishi always intended for Minato to have SM, then I think it's you who lacks common sense... however I'm pretty sure that's not the case; you're just defending someone you're a fan of.
You don't have to be an apologist to be a fan ya know
However I do agree people are taking this a bit too harshly. I'm hopeful Kishi will fix this in the next chapter.
The most important part of this what Minato said; "Senjutsu!", he did not say Sage Mode.
I personally believe that it's linked to the link between Naruto and Minato and that the former still has some Natural Energy and so Minato took it, and used it.
I personally believe that it's linked to the link between Naruto and Minato and that the former still has some Natural Energy and so Minato took it, and used it.
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kuchiyosenojutsuironmaidn
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But didn't Kururma say that Naruto is better at chakra distribution than Minato? Maybe Minato relied on Naruto's knowlege of the sage chakra because he himself isn't as effective at the distribution part. Naruto is the most experienced of them all because of his clones.
this by far is the shittiest post I've ever read.!!
for gods sake, he is a human.!!
you make it seem like he is some sort of god, who is unable to perform any mistakes.
kishi wrote himself to the corner...deal with it.!!
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Doesn't matter how he got natural energy, Minato clearly entered sage mode.
Being able to explain it doesn't change the fact it was an ass pull, I don't think anyone thinks it's illogical or outside the realm of possibility for Minato to have SM.
Like I've said before, I'm hopeful Kishi will retcon this, but that won't change the fact giving Minato SM was done to conveniently move the plot forward (by taking him and Kakashi out of the fight).
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No, he didn't clearly do anything.
The markings of just a sign of natural energy being manipulated, just as how Naruto had markings before he was actually able to enter SM.
Point is, he didn't say Sage Mode, just Senjutsu, which is adding natural energy to techniques, in other words, manipulating it.
minatoisagod
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i don't think it was an ass pull since he can be explained that he always had it. It's more a plot device that he never used it earlier but such is the way of kishi.
Avery Namikaze
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Yep it's an asspull when it's not their favorite characters, though I bet they'll be saying otherwise when Sasuke gets the rinnegan.
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-___- Guys, it's been speculated a long time ago Minato could enter Sage mode.
The reason this wasn't mention was due to the fact Naruto hadn't learned who his father was. However Minato, was a pupil of Jiraya's long before Naruto. Minato was able to master Sage Mode, as well. Although he may have not used it during his fight with Obito, during the Nine Tails attack. The fact of the matter is you have to be standing completely still in order to enter Sage mode, this couldn't possibly have happened when he fought Obito due to Minato having to keep the nine-tails sealed, protect Naruto and Kushina, while at the same time prevent Obito from taking contol of the nine-tails. Unfortunatley for him he failed, so sealing the Yin half of Kuruma within him. He sealed himself within the Shingami, where I'm assuming he obtained control of the Yin half of Kuruma's chakra. considering his soul was sealed for 16+ years.
So, I say it's plausible for Minato to have enter Sage Mode as he did, and when he did considering he didn't have Yin Kuruma's chakra to rely on anymore.
The reason this wasn't mention was due to the fact Naruto hadn't learned who his father was. However Minato, was a pupil of Jiraya's long before Naruto. Minato was able to master Sage Mode, as well. Although he may have not used it during his fight with Obito, during the Nine Tails attack. The fact of the matter is you have to be standing completely still in order to enter Sage mode, this couldn't possibly have happened when he fought Obito due to Minato having to keep the nine-tails sealed, protect Naruto and Kushina, while at the same time prevent Obito from taking contol of the nine-tails. Unfortunatley for him he failed, so sealing the Yin half of Kuruma within him. He sealed himself within the Shingami, where I'm assuming he obtained control of the Yin half of Kuruma's chakra. considering his soul was sealed for 16+ years.
So, I say it's plausible for Minato to have enter Sage Mode as he did, and when he did considering he didn't have Yin Kuruma's chakra to rely on anymore.
AlastorNazura17
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It's to be expected that he has it; he now as a better body than he had when he was alive. You think Jiraiya wouldn't attempt to teach the man who he thought to be the child of prophecy Sage mode? Keep dreaming. Minato is a genius, if you think he wouldn't know how to do it, then you're mistaken. Though it's does bug the hell out of me because he never used it against Juubito, but maybe he couldn't manage having on BM and SM at the same time.
Okay... now define sage mode. Cuz apparently we have 2 different understandings of it.
It seems to me that in your effort to explain away 1 ass pull you create 2 new ones. 1) Naruto and Minato are still linked even though Naruto nor Minato have bijuu chakra. 2) You can use senjutsu without entering Sage Mode.
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Uchiha Samater
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everyone is entitled to their own opinion
i personally enjoy the fact i do not need to be breastfed manga panels of minato training, flashbacks etc or what kind of sage mode, or how good/bad he is at it
it does not ruin the story for me at all, feel sorry for most of you
i personally enjoy the fact i do not need to be breastfed manga panels of minato training, flashbacks etc or what kind of sage mode, or how good/bad he is at it
it does not ruin the story for me at all, feel sorry for most of you
